I figure so many of them are so old the drug test would come out inconclusive due to the drug cocktails they probably take daily. Just think of all the shit people have to take in retirement homes then add in a factor of free healthcare and access to top tier doctors who can prescribe without concern over ethics.
Sounds like a fail to me. We will hold them to the same standards we would be held to. Can't give a clean test then you are fired. We are also definitely going to watch you pee just like they do to all the poors as well. Turnabout is fair play.
This makes me unreasonably upset. Farmers need to be drug tested AND breathalyzed. They also need to provide up to date household income information, including the gross income of anyone living on their property. They should also be required to provide last 3 to 5 employer references, verification they are working 40 hours per week or volunteering an equivalent amount at a state approved business, this all has to be done on an online site that requires desktop computer access. You can't use Chrome or Firefox, only Microsoft Edge. If they don't fill out the forms and attach the appropriately filled out paper documents properly, they will get a mailed statement letting them know they were denied and can re file after a 30 day waiting period. They can call to speak to their case manager, but there is only a phone tree that takes them to voicemail. If they miss the call back from the case manager, their file will be flagged as unresponsive and may require filling out all forms and paperwork again. They may also be denied because of typos, unfinished forms on the case manager side, or an unreasonable reading of acceptance rules.
This is not commentary on social services in America at all /s
The USDA-NASS is responsible for making an estimate of the number of corn cobs in the U.S. Most other countries have similar organizations.
To do so they send surveys out to ask farmers what they think. The farmers answer completely truthfully because lying would inflate the prices they get on their corn cobs.
Depends. Its something you have to ve made for, but driving up and down the field the whole day can be quite relaxing. Its also ideal for listening to podcasts.
Doing this while being high is not only quite dangerous, but can also lead to quite poor results.
Eah. A lot of "farmers" are land owners who hire other people to work on their farms. The average net worth of an American farming household is like, north of $1.5 million iirc.
1.5 million is not that much. Also theres a massive difference between how much you own (without debt) and how much money you make. Even while 1.5 million may sound like a lot it is in fact a quite small farm. They are probably not making that much money (also remember, that a lot of their income gets tunneled directly into paying back debt for investments.
Not just the equipment, but also the costs for land and buildings. In my region a single hectare of land costs around 10-20k€ so for a small farm (which would be at around 50ha) you would pay 500k to 1m € just for the land alone. You havent bought a single piece of equipment, you didnt build a building and depending on what your structure is, you also havent bought a single animal.
Everything is of course expensive. One of my exes was a farm girl. They had a smallish farm 250 Acres (101 Hectares).
He had a couple dozen cows, planted every other inch he could find, and rented a few neighboring fields. He had everything for planting/maintaining/harvesting. Anytime something got paid off, he picked up something else. Everything was a juggling act. Every free dollar was reinvested. They lived relatively decently, but modestly. Everyone got whatever they needed; nothing was extravagant. He had some outrageous amount in loans, many millions.
And there's a lot of right to repair fights. If you think a Honda trying to lock you out for not taking it to the dealership for an oil change is bad, just imagine how bad it is for somebody with a combine that costs most of that million.
If they weren't proletarian they wouldn't have to work. Farmers are some of the most hard working people in society. 70h a week is a normal workload. They work 365 days a week and still get fucked over.
People upvote this shit because they think they're helping. Some sort of "activism" bullshit. They don't seem to realize that their actions are having the opposite fucking effect. The presence of politics where it shouldn't be is causing people to disengage. It causes apathy.
life is politics writ large. shitposting is the purest form of politics imho.
do you really think this meme is attempting to affect policy? it's not. it's the shitpost equivalent of commiserating about a ridiculous double standard.
maybe you're not cut out for the shitpost life friendo
Because you're a hypocrite and they're not. You don't want politics, yet you're doing politics right now. Us normal people like politics, so it's not hypocritical for us to do it.
Normal people like politics? Huh. That's a new one. So I'm not normal, and all the other people who agree with me aren't either. You're being manipulative and judgemental at the same time, while falsey calling me a hypocrite for disagreeing with you.
If you like politics and memes, I have great news for you! There's a community on Lemmy SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT called c/politicalmemes! Have fun!
Not liking politics is extremely weird. Normal people like to watch political movies like Star Wars and read political books like The Hunger Games. We listen to political music like Eminem and appreciate political art like Banksy. Normal people tune into political podcasts like Joe Rogan, even though it sucks, because they love politics. We play political games like Metal Gear, and some of us even spend our sundays worshipping political gods like Jesus. You're weird for not liking political media.
Dumb. There's no universal measure of IQ; its all language and education dependent why not just require a college degree to vote and skip all the intermediate steps?
Really we should be paying people a bonus for completing educational goals instead of driving people in debt.
There is no universal measure of INTELLIGENCE. IQ can absolutely be measured but the question is whether or not it's representative of something we care about. The fact that you open with "dumb" then say something that is patently incorrect is insanely on the nose.
I agree, let's give more voting power to people who are more likely to have made more considered choices and stop pretending like every vote is the same. Far and away most people are not so bright. In the same way that BMI is not a good measure of health, IQ is not a good measure of intelligence. On the borderline it means nothing, but a BMI of 200 is not good and neither is an IQ of 74 and I'm all for screening at that quality.
In the late 18th century US it made sense to make everyone equal and every vote equal (leaving aside slavery and gender inequality) because by and large access to information and education WAS equal. In the end of 2025, that is unfortunately just not true. People and opinions are striated and that is worth some consideration.
If you can't read at a 5th grade level, I don't really care who the TV told you to vote for.
I used to say this kind of thing when I was an angry young conservative because I assumed the culture I grew up in had a shred of good faith in its arguments and actions.
The individuals can certainly mean well at times, but they are fed insidious lies that are made to sound good on the surface.
30 years ago I would have wholeheartedly agreed with you because I knew many people are stupid.
Today I would wholeheartedly disagree with you because I know many people are evil.
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vk6flab@lemmy.radio · 112 pts · 244d
How about drug testing all the politicians every week?
unphazed@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 244d
I figure so many of them are so old the drug test would come out inconclusive due to the drug cocktails they probably take daily. Just think of all the shit people have to take in retirement homes then add in a factor of free healthcare and access to top tier doctors who can prescribe without concern over ethics.
vk6flab@lemmy.radio · 15 pts · 244d
Perhaps we should treat our politicians like athletes and expect a top performance free of doping.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 244d
Or make them retire before they're geriatric.
Johnmannesca@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 244d
Is that why filibusters can last so long?
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 244d
Let's just check for alcohol and opiates.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 244d
Sounds like a fail to me. We will hold them to the same standards we would be held to. Can't give a clean test then you are fired. We are also definitely going to watch you pee just like they do to all the poors as well. Turnabout is fair play.
Watch how fast drug tests would be made illegal.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 244d
Via spinal tap to be sure
gamenac@lemmy.world · 89 pts · 244d
This makes me unreasonably upset. Farmers need to be drug tested AND breathalyzed. They also need to provide up to date household income information, including the gross income of anyone living on their property. They should also be required to provide last 3 to 5 employer references, verification they are working 40 hours per week or volunteering an equivalent amount at a state approved business, this all has to be done on an online site that requires desktop computer access. You can't use Chrome or Firefox, only Microsoft Edge. If they don't fill out the forms and attach the appropriately filled out paper documents properly, they will get a mailed statement letting them know they were denied and can re file after a 30 day waiting period. They can call to speak to their case manager, but there is only a phone tree that takes them to voicemail. If they miss the call back from the case manager, their file will be flagged as unresponsive and may require filling out all forms and paperwork again. They may also be denied because of typos, unfinished forms on the case manager side, or an unreasonable reading of acceptance rules.
This is not commentary on social services in America at all /s
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 83 pts · 245d
Slaps the side of the federal government
This bad boy can fit so many more surveillance programs
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 45 pts · 245d
Boooo! Keep the corn coming.
snooggums@piefed.world · 31 pts · 245d
Corn farmers should be drug-tested every 90 days if they want a government handout.
Kertyna@feddit.nl · 20 pts · 245d
Corn farmers should be 🌽-tested every 90 🌽 if they want government 🌽.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 16 pts · 245d
Who can be trusted to keep accurate count of the corn cobs?
TheRealKuni@piefed.social · 6 pts · 244d
Quis cobiet ipsos cobes?
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 244d
who cornholes cornholnelius?
polydactyl@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 244d
The_v@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 244d
The USDA-NASS is responsible for making an estimate of the number of corn cobs in the U.S. Most other countries have similar organizations.
To do so they send surveys out to ask farmers what they think. The farmers answer completely truthfully because lying would inflate the prices they get on their corn cobs.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 245d
Remove the corn subsidies!
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 3 pts · 245d
From the Cornholes!
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 244d
The corn must flow
mtpender@piefed.social · 5 pts · 244d
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES! BUTTER FOR THE POP-KHORNE!
A7thStone@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 244d
You ever tried farming not high? It's boring as shit.
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 244d
I love quoting that one
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org · 4 pts · 244d
Depends. Its something you have to ve made for, but driving up and down the field the whole day can be quite relaxing. Its also ideal for listening to podcasts.
Doing this while being high is not only quite dangerous, but can also lead to quite poor results.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 25 pts · 245d
So should all members of Congress and the White House.
big_slap@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 245d
where corn
BanaramaClamcrotch@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 243d
Tired of welfare farmers stealing American jobs and American tax payer dollars every 3-5 years
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 244d
This sub didn't last long without us political shitposts.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 244d
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 244d
Mama-mia! dats-a spicy meme-ball
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 244d
farmers should revolt against the capitalist government, for they are proletariats as well
PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 244d
Eah. A lot of "farmers" are land owners who hire other people to work on their farms. The average net worth of an American farming household is like, north of $1.5 million iirc.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org · 4 pts · 244d
1.5 million is not that much. Also theres a massive difference between how much you own (without debt) and how much money you make. Even while 1.5 million may sound like a lot it is in fact a quite small farm. They are probably not making that much money (also remember, that a lot of their income gets tunneled directly into paying back debt for investments.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 244d
Large equipment alone steals the fucking show.
Zink@programming.dev · 4 pts · 244d
John Deere has entered the farm
rumba@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 243d
An authorized service technician has entered the farm
Zink@programming.dev · 2 pts · 243d
Invoicing intensifies
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org · 4 pts · 243d
Not just the equipment, but also the costs for land and buildings. In my region a single hectare of land costs around 10-20k€ so for a small farm (which would be at around 50ha) you would pay 500k to 1m € just for the land alone. You havent bought a single piece of equipment, you didnt build a building and depending on what your structure is, you also havent bought a single animal.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 243d
Everything is of course expensive. One of my exes was a farm girl. They had a smallish farm 250 Acres (101 Hectares).
He had a couple dozen cows, planted every other inch he could find, and rented a few neighboring fields. He had everything for planting/maintaining/harvesting. Anytime something got paid off, he picked up something else. Everything was a juggling act. Every free dollar was reinvested. They lived relatively decently, but modestly. Everyone got whatever they needed; nothing was extravagant. He had some outrageous amount in loans, many millions.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 243d
And there's a lot of right to repair fights. If you think a Honda trying to lock you out for not taking it to the dealership for an oil change is bad, just imagine how bad it is for somebody with a combine that costs most of that million.
PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 241d
I'm not saying they're "rich". I'm saying they're not, as OP suggests, proletarian.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org · 1 pts · 241d
If they weren't proletarian they wouldn't have to work. Farmers are some of the most hard working people in society. 70h a week is a normal workload. They work 365 days a week and still get fucked over.
Sharlot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 244d
Drug tests are expensive theater. If the goal is accountability, audits and transparent reporting actually work.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 245d
High on pesticides.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 244d
Make sure they're not lickin' em toadyfrogs!
MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 244d
Corporate owned farmers
Redkid1324@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 244d
Is this something that I missed on SNAP benefits?
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 244d
How have the mods of this comm not banned politics yet? This isn't a fucking shitpost and everyone knows it.
general_kitten@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 244d
i guess the cornings must continue until morel improves.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 244d
I too prefer mushrooms.
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 244d
People upvote this shit because they think they're helping. Some sort of "activism" bullshit. They don't seem to realize that their actions are having the opposite fucking effect. The presence of politics where it shouldn't be is causing people to disengage. It causes apathy.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 244d
aw cranky?
life is politics writ large. shitposting is the purest form of politics imho.
do you really think this meme is attempting to affect policy? it's not. it's the shitpost equivalent of commiserating about a ridiculous double standard.
maybe you're not cut out for the shitpost life friendo
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 244d
I find the way you're trying to influence the policy of this comm very annoying, please stop it.
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip · -4 pts · 244d
Lol, no. Why should I stop? The motherfuckers posting political shit are trying to influence it, too.
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 244d
Because you're a hypocrite and they're not. You don't want politics, yet you're doing politics right now. Us normal people like politics, so it's not hypocritical for us to do it.
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip · -6 pts · 244d
Normal people like politics? Huh. That's a new one. So I'm not normal, and all the other people who agree with me aren't either. You're being manipulative and judgemental at the same time, while falsey calling me a hypocrite for disagreeing with you.
If you like politics and memes, I have great news for you! There's a community on Lemmy SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT called c/politicalmemes! Have fun!
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 244d
Not liking politics is extremely weird. Normal people like to watch political movies like Star Wars and read political books like The Hunger Games. We listen to political music like Eminem and appreciate political art like Banksy. Normal people tune into political podcasts like Joe Rogan, even though it sucks, because they love politics. We play political games like Metal Gear, and some of us even spend our sundays worshipping political gods like Jesus. You're weird for not liking political media.
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 244d
Go fuck yourself, you gaslighting creep.
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · 0 pts · 244d
I have that scheduled for this evening before bed, you apolitical.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 244d
100% there is shit under this guy's fingernails
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 244d
Let's start with an IQ test before voting.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 244d
Dumb. There's no universal measure of IQ; its all language and education dependent why not just require a college degree to vote and skip all the intermediate steps?
Really we should be paying people a bonus for completing educational goals instead of driving people in debt.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 244d
There is no universal measure of INTELLIGENCE. IQ can absolutely be measured but the question is whether or not it's representative of something we care about. The fact that you open with "dumb" then say something that is patently incorrect is insanely on the nose.
I agree, let's give more voting power to people who are more likely to have made more considered choices and stop pretending like every vote is the same. Far and away most people are not so bright. In the same way that BMI is not a good measure of health, IQ is not a good measure of intelligence. On the borderline it means nothing, but a BMI of 200 is not good and neither is an IQ of 74 and I'm all for screening at that quality.
In the late 18th century US it made sense to make everyone equal and every vote equal (leaving aside slavery and gender inequality) because by and large access to information and education WAS equal. In the end of 2025, that is unfortunately just not true. People and opinions are striated and that is worth some consideration.
If you can't read at a 5th grade level, I don't really care who the TV told you to vote for.
mlegstrong@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 244d
We already tried that. It didn’t have the best results. :/
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 244d
Current results looking good to you?
Zink@programming.dev · 1 pts · 243d
I used to say this kind of thing when I was an angry young conservative because I assumed the culture I grew up in had a shred of good faith in its arguments and actions.
The individuals can certainly mean well at times, but they are fed insidious lies that are made to sound good on the surface.
30 years ago I would have wholeheartedly agreed with you because I knew many people are stupid.
Today I would wholeheartedly disagree with you because I know many people are evil.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 244d
The one who creates the test will determine who will win the vote.