Oh absolutely not, I was just taking further to show even if they did this isn’t even a case the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) would allow the police to press charges for.
they have no obligation to reveal any part of it that would indicate your innocence
So you just don't understand how the legal system works at all, amigo. What you described is completely false. One of the first phases of any court case is discovery, where the opposing party supplies the evidence that they have to support their case. Not including this type of evidence during discovery could get an attorney disbarred and a court case thrown out entirely.
To expand on that, the prosecution wouldn't have an obligation to reveal that evidence to the jury, but they would have an obligation to provide it to the court and/or defense during discovery. And, you know, that seems like something the defense would both use and request if it were missing.
The police will only write a report if there's clear evidence of a crime. So no report will be written day of if there's no evidence beyond an obviously fake note.
No person is going to charge into a store, obtain surveillance footage, track down the person who left the note, realize said person did not hit their vehicle and left a fake note, then contact the police and report them.
No store is going to bother with that without a subpoena or at the very least a cop present, and no cop is going to waste the effort for a vehicle with no damage.
If they have video of you leaving the note, then they also have video of the truck being parked, sitting there without being hit, and the owner returning without any real incident.
And from experience, the cops would tell the owner of the truck to contact their insurance, and if pushed, the most they'd do is file a report. There wouldn't be any investigation, especially without evidence of damage.
Good point. Don't park nearby at least. If you do wind up getting identified and blamed you could probably tell the truth and say he was being an asshat in traffic and you were trolling him, but you never know how the justice system will work.
They'd have to file a police report and report to their insurance before security will release/show any footage. This was a while ago from someone who worked at a red retail store.
Paranoia? That's just Flock cameras. If they have a frame of OP getting into their car with a legible plate, they can probably get a close to real time ping if the area is ""served""
45 Comments
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de · 196 pts · 250d
If you want to have a tiny chance to see a perfectly good car get towed for no reason add "I have the part that fell out."
vateso5074@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 250d
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 126 pts · 250d
If they have the video of you placing the note then they will have the video of you not hitting them.
vateso5074@lemmy.world · -23 pts · 250d
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 250d
After reading your posts, I've come to the conclusion that you know absolutely nothing about the law or how a case would be tried.
Please do not listen to this person on any legal matters.
ttyybb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 250d
Or anyone else that your arnt paying to be your lawer, even if they are a lawyer.
vateso5074@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 250d
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 14 pts · 250d
So they use the video as evidence of the person placing the note. The same video the defence will view to show that their client did not hit the car.
village604@adultswim.fan · 8 pts · 250d
I doubt that any cop would even bother writing a report for it.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 250d
Oh absolutely not, I was just taking further to show even if they did this isn’t even a case the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) would allow the police to press charges for.
vateso5074@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 250d
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 250d
So you just don't understand how the legal system works at all, amigo. What you described is completely false. One of the first phases of any court case is discovery, where the opposing party supplies the evidence that they have to support their case. Not including this type of evidence during discovery could get an attorney disbarred and a court case thrown out entirely.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 250d
To expand on that, the prosecution wouldn't have an obligation to reveal that evidence to the jury, but they would have an obligation to provide it to the court and/or defense during discovery. And, you know, that seems like something the defense would both use and request if it were missing.
vateso5074@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 250d
village604@adultswim.fan · 6 pts · 250d
Then that snippet wouldn't be admissible in court.
vateso5074@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 250d
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 250d
And which bit of damage did you confess to? They have no evidence of what you confessed to doing.
vateso5074@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 250d
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 250d
And how do you prove that ding is the one the note leaver caused?
vateso5074@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 250d
FarmTaco@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 250d
just because its a civil court doesnt mean it is based off vibes
"Yes Officer, he damaged my car. this damage right here. The Proof? I say so your honor. I rest my case."
IzzyScissor@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 250d
Like a photo of the driver circling the car, unable to spot where the damage was, immediately after reading the note? Hmmmm....
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 250d
What if they removed the word “hit” from the note.
So it just said “I accidentally your car”
Then you’re not really admitting to anything.
Would also probably frustrate the guy even more.
lauha@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 250d
Just go super ambiguous
"Sorry about your car. Call me."
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 250d
"Sorry about that, please call me! I have the thing that fell out"
FarmTaco@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 250d
my man is vastly over estimating the work police will do
vateso5074@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 250d
The police will only write a report if there's clear evidence of a crime. So no report will be written day of if there's no evidence beyond an obviously fake note.
No person is going to charge into a store, obtain surveillance footage, track down the person who left the note, realize said person did not hit their vehicle and left a fake note, then contact the police and report them.
village604@adultswim.fan · 9 pts · 250d
No store is going to bother with that without a subpoena or at the very least a cop present, and no cop is going to waste the effort for a vehicle with no damage.
Ajen@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 250d
If they have video of you leaving the note, then they also have video of the truck being parked, sitting there without being hit, and the owner returning without any real incident.
And from experience, the cops would tell the owner of the truck to contact their insurance, and if pushed, the most they'd do is file a report. There wouldn't be any investigation, especially without evidence of damage.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 250d
Good point. Don't park nearby at least. If you do wind up getting identified and blamed you could probably tell the truth and say he was being an asshat in traffic and you were trolling him, but you never know how the justice system will work.
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio · 3 pts · 250d
That's why I have front and rear dashcams.
stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 250d
I don't that's why I just strap GoPros to my car with duct tape
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 250d
Way cheaper:
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 250d
yeah but film is fucking expensive dude.
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio · 2 pts · 250d
That works too.
Bruhh@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 250d
They'd have to file a police report and report to their insurance before security will release/show any footage. This was a while ago from someone who worked at a red retail store.
village604@adultswim.fan · 2 pts · 250d
And that's assuming the employees even have access to the parking lot footage
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 250d
Paranoia? That's just Flock cameras. If they have a frame of OP getting into their car with a legible plate, they can probably get a close to real time ping if the area is ""served""
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 73 pts · 250d
Calling it a "car" as well I'm certain pisses him off. Beautiful.
TomMasz@piefed.social · 37 pts · 250d
Ingenious.
mad_lentil@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 250d
I want to believe
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 250d
(Arguably)UnethicalLifeProTips
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 250d
Relevant video from The Onion.
P1k1e@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 250d
Anyone think this guy wears a cape?
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 250d
Frank Costanza's lawyer?
marcos@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 250d
That would be too conspicuous.
itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 250d
And we have the winner of the "Troll of the Year" award.
finley@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 250d
It’s the little things…