People who signed up for a US ‘self-deportation’ scheme say their payoffs were delayed, misdirected or never arrived – leaving them empty-handed in their home countries
‘They tricked me’: Migrants were promised $1,000 to voluntarily leave the US. Some never received it
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/18/migrants-self-deportation-trump-immigration
61 Comments
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 229 pts · 278d
Interesting how they heard the news about the self-deportation but didn't hear the news about how Trump never pays people.
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 278d
It's never an issue until it affects them personally.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 277d
These weren't necessarily his voters, though. They were being coerced either way.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca · 180 pts · 278d
In all seriousness, I'm more surprised that anyone got the money at all
rumba@lemmy.zip · 56 pts · 278d
Yeah, that's the real takeaway. I expected them to send them out them say come and get it.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 68 pts · 278d
You should pay the first few marks so they’ll help establish the veneer of credibility. That’s Conning 101.
I forget the corresponding Ferengi Rule of Acquisition number.
atlasraven@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 278d
19 is closest.
Don't lie too soon after a promotion.
Zorque@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 278d
Rule 76: Every once in a while declare peace, it will confuse the hell out of your enemies.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 278d
It's all sixes and sevens
Sun Tzu
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 277d
It isn't his money. He is just plowing through whatever tax dollars he can access.
mr_account@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 278d
Gotta do just enough payments that people won't think it's a lie, and that's when you pull the (insufferably obvious) switch-a-roo
someguy3@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 278d
Well you start it to fool people, then you cut it off. (The only reason it was offered was because it's cheaper than sending an agent after you.)
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 278d
What?! The administration run by a man who is famous for not paying people didn't pay some people?!
shittydwarf@piefed.social · 47 pts · 278d
A trump never pays his debts
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 278d
👏TRUMP👏NEVER👏PAYS👏HIS👏BILLS👏
(Unless it's the hush money bill, or the raping little girls bill, he's always got cash for those)
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 32 pts · 278d
Trump didn't pay his bill?!?
zergtoshi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 278d
Last time I heard, he did different things with his Bill.
random_character_a@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 278d
Country is been run to the ground by convicted con man. What the hell did you expect?
stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 278d
the country is also formed on genocide and rebellion so not that suprised
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 278d
So you're saying some DID get the $1k? That seems more amazing.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 19 pts · 278d
Trump rarely pays people he looks upon as “the help”.
The man is such a ghetto trash human being.
polysexualstick@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 277d
Everyone in here going like "What did they expect lol?" needs to get their fucking moral compass checked. People in a probably very desperate situation (because for everyone else, $ 1000 wouldn't be enough for this) were scammed by their own goddamn government. Governments are not supposed to do this, and we rely on our governments to do what they say every single day for a lot of things. Blaming the victims for this is wild to me.
Furbag@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 278d
I warned when they announced the program that Trump never fucking pays.
Anybody who took that deal was asking to get scammed.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 276d
tbf, I'm assuming a lot of people who accepted that deal is not because they wanted 1k, it's because that are fleeing this hellhole.
expatriado@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 278d
if you don't pay the first wave, there is no second wave
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 278d
I was promised epstein files today. What's happening with that?
LefterShark@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 277d
They tricked you.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 277d
Also we were all getting 2k checks in. The mail from the teriffs. I think those are the checks he just gave to the troops lol
Bristlecone@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 278d
Atrocious, but also if you are stupid enough to believe these fuckers would actually give you that money, you deserve what you got, I guess?
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org · 23 pts · 278d
Yeah I'm not with you there
Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 278d
Yeah. Its $1000, these people are desperate. Compassion should be shown.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 278d
$1000? Do you know how many billionaires that would bankrupt? Nearly all of them, I'll bet. /S
stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 278d
desperation
sunbytes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 278d
He just said about that the "warrior bonus" or whatever it is called that the "cheque is in the mail".
For sure doesn't sound like BS.
I mean, they'll probably get it. But still he has the brain of someone who would be doing cheque fraud if he hadn't been born into money.
Catma@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 278d
The "warrior bonus" is just money they had for housing stipends. Its literally money they probably were already getting. So it is real but fucking dumb. It has the air of delaying the first covid checks to make sure his name was on them.
Source: https://apnews.com/article/trump-military-dividend-housing-5990b3810a704e46e2b93152253f439c
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 278d
People lured away with the promise of deportation anyway only to turn themselves in to get something out of it only to then by scammed inhuman.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 278d
That tracks with Trump's reputation.
You literally can't believe a single word a MAGA administration releases.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 2 pts · 277d
It isn't just the administration
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 278d
I never understood this, maybe they just need the money that badly or are outright threatened.
Why would you believe they would give you money once you’re out of their country. You are no longer their problem.
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 278d
Believe you are going to be deported anyway but have some trust in "law" so do this so you get something to help you and your family out of it.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 278d
$1000 is absolutely nothing for that. My own move out of the US ended up in the multiple multiple thousands
LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 278d
Shocked any received it, honestly.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 278d
Of course they haven't. Noem is as much a facetious liar as her evil lord and master drump
treesquid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 277d
She's not facetious at all, that means humorous or witty. What she IS is fecetious, which means she's totally full of shit
Eh_I@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 278d
Enjoy counting your nothing, idiots.
stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 278d
Oh, honestly, did you not read the colony policy
That defines you as company property
That waivers your say in autonomy
The conglomerate's got you in lock and key
We put the "dollar" back into "idolatry"
If you're upset, you can rent an apology
We are a
familygovernment forged in bureaucracyNo "I" in "team" but there's "con" in "economy"
Were you expecting adventure
Were you hoping for fun
My friend, you're indentured
And pleasure's exempt from your tenure
So venture back down to your slum
That's provided at generous prices
Your worth is determined by your sacrifices
A small term of service when down on the surface
Internment's a freebie that comes with the purchase
(the fine print by the Stupendium)
P1nkman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 276d
Such a good song! Was extremely surprised to see Stupendium quoted here, but man, what a great use of it 👏
Tronn4@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 278d
Por pendejos
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 278d
Hottie on the right definitely needs this fixed. Now, people!
Odin@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 278d
A lot of countries charge you for the deportation. They will even hold you in jail until you pay it back.
porcoesphino@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 278d
Even with this take, it's still dishonest. Something like this is still a pretty motivating: "we could hold you for months more or you could self deport now". And if you're making people sign forms saying one thing and then do another, then it's further undermining trust in the government agencies and the rule of law. Although I suspect some groups confuse harshness with law & justice
Odin@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 278d
Undermining trust in the government agencies and rule of law for who? Illegal aliens? They should not trust those agencies or rule of law. They should leave immediately. We shouldn't be paying them anything except a bullet in their backside.
porcoesphino@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 278d
You seem to have a lot of faith that conditional application of laws and contracts will only affect certain groups, those groups won't change, and that it won't extend to you.
Funny you mention the bullet since there are people that served and took bullets for the US military only to be deported. (Sae Joon Park randomly was an Uber driver of mine a few years ago and was really good to chat with)
You seem like a pretty terrible excuse for a human. I hope you find yourself lost in this, or just screaming into a void until a lonely old age
belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 278d
Shooting illegal migrants is one hell of a take, especially from an American.
Odin@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 278d
belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 278d
Lemme just gun you down, Americans have committed so much crime around the world that I can't be sure you're not one of them child murderers.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 278d
No u
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 278d
They pay more taxes than you and get no benefits from the government
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 278d
Every country does it so that makes it okay /s
C1pher@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 278d
Fucking PEAK comedy lol 🤣
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 278d
We found somebody that believes what Trump says? They get what they deserve, LIES!
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 278d
How is this getting what they deserve? In all likelihood believed they were being deported no matter what so figured get something to help themselves and family out of it, they shouldn't be made to feel that way or trust in the promise but that's more naivety than anything else hardly deserving being scammed.