For me it's almost the same, but the text on the thumbnail are in Hungarian, one is a clip channel of a crappy Hungarian Twitch streamer, and one is one of those channels that plagiarize content via translation and got his fame by plagiarizing an English video accusing all furries with zoophilia.
Same, I use it in conjunction with NewPipe to conveniently download videos/audio. I also make sure to turn off thumbnails set by creators. Even my favourite channels that make great content have to make clickbait thumbnails, which I absolutely cannot stand.
I've been using tubular for ages and never really had any issues. Bonus, you can download the videos/audio if you want to listen to it later while in the road!
I've been using newpipe for years and I only get issues when en Google go on a shit bender about ad blockers. Then, after a day, or a few days at the most, it gets updated and sorted.
“This will allow YouTube to locate the best content.”
It’s the blatant bald-faced lying that really gets me. They’re openly broadcasting how little respect they have for you, that they think you’ll swallow that as a valid reason not to function.
It’s as if some manager at Google deep down knows he’s a piece of shit who belongs in a gulag, and is subconsciously trying to bring it about.
That's why VPNs give you hundreds of options. You should be changing your VPN location anyway based on the pseudo-profile you want. VPNs aren't magic, they're just tools.
Other options include:
Searching for the video with DDG or Startpage and playing the video via their search
I have this set up on my router. My wifi is blanket tunneled through a VPN. For annoying sites that restrict access like reddit, my router routes through a specific VPN server that doesn't (yet) get blocked (I don't post/comment/browse, but occasionally find a post that answers a question). That way it works on my whole home network, regardless of device.
Same could be done for YouTube presumably, but maybe a little more complicated (reddit seems to work with a single /32 address).
Plus, it's fun to set up---MikroTik router, Mullvad, and an ARM SBC doing the VPN duties for me, but myriad ways to get it working for other configurations.
I'm doing a crude version of this with a Flint 2 router and Mullvad. Don't enjoy fiddling with my network (and upstream is unreliable for now, making troubleshooting an irritating game of crossing off doubts each time I have issues, rather than learning things better).
At the moment I just have a guest Wifi that doesn't get VPN'ed for things like Roku devices and such (slowly migrating the home away from stuff like this).
I appreciate the always-on "blanket" traffic tunneling, a lot. But I'd like a more flexible setup - things like allowing access to Jellyfin from guest Wifi (or similar), site-specific exclusions or other workarounds for when I need to reach a banking site that has predictable VPN complaints, etc.
Not a fan of just playing house-wide VPN exit whack-a-mole each time myself or someone else experiences an issue, but maybe that's part of the game.
Know of any good starting points for the flexibility I'm describing? Probably just need to learn LuCI and firewall and VLAN principles?
I also have an SSID that doesn't get VPN'd, though my DNS is always VPN'd.
As for accessing JellyFin, etc., I think we have somewhat different setups. My self hosted services are by default accessible without a VPN (SSID is on a VLAN with e.g. 192.168.0.0/24, servers are on 192.168.1.0/24, router routes between them). For the blanket VPN'd SSID I have a routing rule that routes over the main, not VPN, table, so local services can be accessed.
So: local traffic has a rule to route without VPN, reddit routes with a specific VPN, and general traffic routes with a different VPN.
There are lots of VLANs involved in my setup, and I'm sure it's overly complicated and has gaping security issues, but it's just a home network and it's kinda fun :(
For reading reddit you can just use a redlib frontend and never get blocked. When I get the "woah there, pardner!" I just take the URL from the /r/ onward and paste it after a frontend URL. Takes 2 seconds.
Also, setting up a router level VPN is just an OpenWRT config on plenty of routers. Depends on your firmware how many servers you can have listed to bounce between. Otherwise just bounce more per device.
Yeah, one of the issues I was having with running VPN on router is that you need a somewhat beefy router if you want to use your full bandwidth---my router maxes out at about 90Mbps with WireGuard, even though it can NAT around 1Gbps (which is our service).
I implemented two workarounds, one was to use my access point as a VPN router since it had a beefier CPU, and the other was to just use an ARM SBC with Linux to handle that task. (I ended up with the latter, as the former ended up maxing out at around 400Mbps, and introduced some additional headaches.)
No issues here yet. Proton vpn with brave. Both have been good about finding the work around and updating so far for me. Hit a wall, but by the next day they fix it. It's a continuous battle to be sure, but no long term issues for me so far.
YouTube has been trying to block VPNs for months now. Especially one that offers a free one like Proton. Just switch your VPN server till one works. They're always playing tag.
Sites will block content or require age verification by state, so if you're connected to a VPN server located in one of those states you'll see stuff like that.
The server I am connected to was in Canada. Its the same server I almost always connect to. If I am not connected to that one, I am connected to one in my home state for speed. My state does not require age verification to ask google what Showtime's the nearest movie theater has.
The only time I had this issue, I jus used ytdl-p to bypass while still keeping my VPN up. The video was not really worth it, but at least I could watch it.
I've noticed the same issue with some VPNs lately. If you're looking for a reliable Android solution, check out Delta Executor Download for the latest version and installation guide.
I pretty much only use YouTube to look up specific clips of things (eg: simpsons clips, bits from movies), the very occasional video game "how do I do this specific thing?", and specific songs i don't have a copy of. I never watch any of its original content. I'm sure some of it is fine, but sturgeon's law says most of it is crap, and there's so much non-crap already on my radar to read/watch/listen to.
Yeah, fuck YouTube as a platform, but to dismiss the entire content seems a bit whack. But I guess if they're already happy with whatever it is that they're watching, it's OK, I guess.
I don't know if YouTube is full Nazi bar, but it's pretty close. You shouldn't go to the Nazi bar just because they have good cocktails and there are some good performers at the open mic.
Sometimes you have to skip things you like. There's other content and other platforms.
lol…. YouTube will never be okay with VPNs. Yet everyone thinks they’re clever trying to work around it with this shit- while never really accepting that you’re supporting a service that treats its users and content creators like they’re complete and total idiots.
I intend on continuing to use it as long as I can with my adblockers, noscript extensions, pinhole and so forth in place. I will keep up the game as long as it can be played, and when I lose, I’ll walk away.
I cannot tolerate the enshittification cycle. I’m happy to pay for services, I’m not happy being frogboiled into having to pay for them.
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tatann@lemmy.world · 124 pts · 234d
The "best content":
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 234d
tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 233d
Geeeez looking back at this hurts so much in so many ways
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 234d
For me it's almost the same, but the text on the thumbnail are in Hungarian, one is a clip channel of a crappy Hungarian Twitch streamer, and one is one of those channels that plagiarize content via translation and got his fame by plagiarizing an English video accusing all furries with zoophilia.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 234d
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
solomonschuler@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 233d
gkaklas@lemmy.zip · 62 pts · 234d
reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 49 pts · 234d
Here are some options for Android as well.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 234d
They only work half the time though.
ThoGot@feddit.org · 24 pts · 234d
Revanced on Android has been working quite nicely for me
Daefsdeda@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 234d
Same, I've had my current version for 3 months now and if it stops working I just immediately update it.
perfectly_boiled_pizza@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 231d
That is NOT THE OFFICIAL WEBPAGE. DO NOT DOWNLOAD anything from it. It might be malicious. Several copycats have been malicious.
When in doubt you can find the link on GitHub. There you will find this instead.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 232d
Same, I use it in conjunction with NewPipe to conveniently download videos/audio. I also make sure to turn off thumbnails set by creators. Even my favourite channels that make great content have to make clickbait thumbnails, which I absolutely cannot stand.
greenacres3233@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 234d
I've been using tubular for ages and never really had any issues. Bonus, you can download the videos/audio if you want to listen to it later while in the road!
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 234d
I've been using newpipe for years and I only get issues when en Google go on a shit bender about ad blockers. Then, after a day, or a few days at the most, it gets updated and sorted.
leastaction@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 234d
They work fine for me, you just have to keep them updated.
justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io · 4 pts · 234d
Google has been fighting them and "AI" scrapers recently.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 48 pts · 233d
“This will allow YouTube to locate the best content.”
It’s the blatant bald-faced lying that really gets me. They’re openly broadcasting how little respect they have for you, that they think you’ll swallow that as a valid reason not to function.
It’s as if some manager at Google deep down knows he’s a piece of shit who belongs in a gulag, and is subconsciously trying to bring it about.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 233d
But that you do that is the reason to use a VPN/proxy.
webkitten@piefed.social · 8 pts · 233d
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 234d
Change the VPN server/location.
That's why VPNs give you hundreds of options. You should be changing your VPN location anyway based on the pseudo-profile you want. VPNs aren't magic, they're just tools.
Other options include:
Searching for the video with DDG or Startpage and playing the video via their search
Using an Invidious frontend
qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website · 9 pts · 234d
I have this set up on my router. My wifi is blanket tunneled through a VPN. For annoying sites that restrict access like reddit, my router routes through a specific VPN server that doesn't (yet) get blocked (I don't post/comment/browse, but occasionally find a post that answers a question). That way it works on my whole home network, regardless of device.
Same could be done for YouTube presumably, but maybe a little more complicated (reddit seems to work with a single /32 address).
Plus, it's fun to set up---MikroTik router, Mullvad, and an ARM SBC doing the VPN duties for me, but myriad ways to get it working for other configurations.
PolarKraken@programming.dev · 3 pts · 233d
I'm doing a crude version of this with a Flint 2 router and Mullvad. Don't enjoy fiddling with my network (and upstream is unreliable for now, making troubleshooting an irritating game of crossing off doubts each time I have issues, rather than learning things better).
At the moment I just have a guest Wifi that doesn't get VPN'ed for things like Roku devices and such (slowly migrating the home away from stuff like this).
I appreciate the always-on "blanket" traffic tunneling, a lot. But I'd like a more flexible setup - things like allowing access to Jellyfin from guest Wifi (or similar), site-specific exclusions or other workarounds for when I need to reach a banking site that has predictable VPN complaints, etc.
Not a fan of just playing house-wide VPN exit whack-a-mole each time myself or someone else experiences an issue, but maybe that's part of the game.
Know of any good starting points for the flexibility I'm describing? Probably just need to learn LuCI and firewall and VLAN principles?
qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website · 2 pts · 233d
I also have an SSID that doesn't get VPN'd, though my DNS is always VPN'd.
As for accessing JellyFin, etc., I think we have somewhat different setups. My self hosted services are by default accessible without a VPN (SSID is on a VLAN with e.g.
192.168.0.0/24, servers are on192.168.1.0/24, router routes between them). For the blanket VPN'd SSID I have a routing rule that routes over the main, not VPN, table, so local services can be accessed.So: local traffic has a rule to route without VPN, reddit routes with a specific VPN, and general traffic routes with a different VPN.
There are lots of VLANs involved in my setup, and I'm sure it's overly complicated and has gaping security issues, but it's just a home network and it's kinda fun :(
PolarKraken@programming.dev · 2 pts · 233d
Haha don't sweat it, I certainly won't be poking holes in your config. Thanks for the rundown!
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 233d
For reading reddit you can just use a redlib frontend and never get blocked. When I get the "woah there, pardner!" I just take the URL from the /r/ onward and paste it after a frontend URL. Takes 2 seconds.
Also, setting up a router level VPN is just an OpenWRT config on plenty of routers. Depends on your firmware how many servers you can have listed to bounce between. Otherwise just bounce more per device.
iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 233d
I have a Firefox add-on that automates that. Reddit links get redirected to a random redlib instance. It's pretty nice.
qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website · 2 pts · 233d
Yeah, one of the issues I was having with running VPN on router is that you need a somewhat beefy router if you want to use your full bandwidth---my router maxes out at about 90Mbps with WireGuard, even though it can NAT around 1Gbps (which is our service).
I implemented two workarounds, one was to use my access point as a VPN router since it had a beefier CPU, and the other was to just use an ARM SBC with Linux to handle that task. (I ended up with the latter, as the former ended up maxing out at around 400Mbps, and introduced some additional headaches.)
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 232d
Don't worry, the internet where I'm at sucks so bad everything else has higher bandwidth capacity.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 234d
There’s such an easier fix: just stop using a service that has zero respect for you.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 233d
I assume you mean YT here, and not the VPN?
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 233d
Absolutely that’s what I meant.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 217d
yeah i'll just go watch things on one of the many other platforms, like uhhhhhhhh, and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 195d
.. said the person with zero self-control
qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website · 1 pts · 234d
protist@mander.xyz · 37 pts · 234d
I'm on proton vpn and it works fine for me. I'm using YouTube through Firefox though, not the app, because fuck the app
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 234d
Exactly the Same. But that's how I got this message.
JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 234d
No issues here yet. Proton vpn with brave. Both have been good about finding the work around and updating so far for me. Hit a wall, but by the next day they fix it. It's a continuous battle to be sure, but no long term issues for me so far.
teft@piefed.social · 6 pts · 234d
Youtube does a/b testing so it’s possible your account just hasn’t been affected yet.
bonenode@piefed.social · 35 pts · 234d
DaMummy@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 234d
YouTube has been trying to block VPNs for months now. Especially one that offers a free one like Proton. Just switch your VPN server till one works. They're always playing tag.
Janx@piefed.social · 3 pts · 234d
"Tag"? I think you mean Whac-a-Mole...
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 22 pts · 234d
cristian64@reddthat.com · 21 pts · 234d
If you turn VPN off, you lose.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 234d
Exactly!!!
leastaction@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 234d
Enshittification proceeding nicely. I use Freetube on the desktop and Newpipe on my Android phone. I have ExpressVPN on my router.
deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 233d
I browse with invidious and just download whatever videos I want to watch with yt-dlp
WamGams@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 234d
I am also on Proton VPN. 2 days ago Google search wouldn't allow me to search at all because it couldn't confirm my age.
I switched to a different server and it worked, but that shouldn't have made a difference, since I was sigbed into the same google account.
Strangely enough, this happened about 30 ish hours after I started self hosting my own searxng.
PineRune@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 234d
Sites will block content or require age verification by state, so if you're connected to a VPN server located in one of those states you'll see stuff like that.
WamGams@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 234d
The server I am connected to was in Canada. Its the same server I almost always connect to. If I am not connected to that one, I am connected to one in my home state for speed. My state does not require age verification to ask google what Showtime's the nearest movie theater has.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 234d
Was the different server in another state?
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 234d
The only time I had this issue, I jus used ytdl-p to bypass while still keeping my VPN up. The video was not really worth it, but at least I could watch it.
DSN9@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 234d
Which country gave you this prompt?
I'm trying to say give up YT, not worth it anymore.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 234d
Canada
Camille_Jamal@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 233d
That's absolute bullshit youtube, they don't need any locational stuff, other than to sell to advertisers.
.>:(
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 234d
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 234d
Host Invidious locally...
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 234d
On my smartphone?
Fijxu@programming.dev · 1 pts · 234d
You probably can with Termux lol
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 234d
Can proton spin up new vpns? How does yt find out?
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 234d
Lots of connections from one IP
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 233d
I don't use proprietary, known evil services which require me to authenticate.
MELLA@libretechni.ca · 2 pts · 25d
I've noticed the same issue with some VPNs lately. If you're looking for a reliable Android solution, check out Delta Executor Download for the latest version and installation guide.
crispy_caesus@feddit.org · 2 pts · 233d
oh wow...
Silar@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 233d
Frustrating as hell for sure, did you try switching severs?
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 232d
Yeah i did
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 209d
I switched to Mullvad VPN, and I've had one Youtube block in the last week. Well worth the cost of switching.
solomonschuler@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 233d
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 0 pts · 233d
I pretty much only use YouTube to look up specific clips of things (eg: simpsons clips, bits from movies), the very occasional video game "how do I do this specific thing?", and specific songs i don't have a copy of. I never watch any of its original content. I'm sure some of it is fine, but sturgeon's law says most of it is crap, and there's so much non-crap already on my radar to read/watch/listen to.
So fuck youtube.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 232d
There's a couple of channels that I really enjoy on there.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 232d
Yeah, fuck YouTube as a platform, but to dismiss the entire content seems a bit whack. But I guess if they're already happy with whatever it is that they're watching, it's OK, I guess.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 0 pts · 232d
I don't know if YouTube is full Nazi bar, but it's pretty close. You shouldn't go to the Nazi bar just because they have good cocktails and there are some good performers at the open mic.
Sometimes you have to skip things you like. There's other content and other platforms.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 234d
lol…. YouTube will never be okay with VPNs. Yet everyone thinks they’re clever trying to work around it with this shit- while never really accepting that you’re supporting a service that treats its users and content creators like they’re complete and total idiots.
STOP USING YOUTUBE.
problem solved.
4grams@awful.systems · 3 pts · 233d
I intend on continuing to use it as long as I can with my adblockers, noscript extensions, pinhole and so forth in place. I will keep up the game as long as it can be played, and when I lose, I’ll walk away.
I cannot tolerate the enshittification cycle. I’m happy to pay for services, I’m not happy being frogboiled into having to pay for them.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 232d
Enjoy contributing to the problem!
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 233d
Until there's an alternative, I'm affraid I can't.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 233d
can’twon’t.Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 233d
No, I don't think I will.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 233d
Cool! Have fun obnoxiously complaining about it to the eco chamber of fellow Stockholm syndrome sufferers.