Yeah, Trump's already been impeached twice and he got re-elected. So what the hell is Mikey complaining about? Who cares if the president is impeached?
It's going to have the opposite effect in time. If center-right moderates are called radical Marxists, then they might as well at least be social democrats or democratic socialists anyway and at least have some sound policies instead of watered-down right-wing garbage.
That's years old right wing propaganda spread by the likes of Alex Jones for years. They use the 'socialism' in "national socialist" (part of the term Nazi comes from) to argue so, ignoring the fact that anyone can make a name whether or not it's true. If any socialist plans were made by the Nazis, it was of course racist first; only the in group gets any benefit.
These are old ideas that were niche at first but have been moving out into the public as the right shifts the Overton window. Stuff we'd dismiss at ridiculous crazy yelly conspiracy man is now mainstream even with people who might not want to be associated with Jones.
Yeah, I love that one. "They have socialist in the name!" So you believe the People's Democratic Republic of Korea is all of those things?
The Nazis have socialist in the name because they joined with socialists in the early days to consolidate power and then they killed the socialists. Who what it they first came for in that poem? The fucking socialists.
If they think it's the radical left advocating for the expected and traditional use of law as written and to it's normal effect, boy howdy have they got another thing coming.
No matter how radical any republican may think the left could be, the current people in charge are both actively protecting pedophiles, and are, themselves, guilty of abusing children.
Maybe we need some radical left right now, eh? Maybe the child rapists shouldn't be in charge.
He was already impeached twice, they will do nothing besides symbolic tasks. so many people belong in jail, yet legally, that is now not possible because nothing trump does is illegal. and the dems will make a show of an impeachment then not remove him
Impeachment is one half of the process. If the Dems held a supermajority in the Senate he would have been removed.
Yes, this requires a lot of things to have been different, and everyone would have had to be following the intent of the constitution, not just the letter, but there exists a way to remove him and put him in jail.
You can throw your hands up and say he's immune from any consequences, but if everyone did that then it would really be true.
I'm not saying people should blindly hope and do nothing, but quitting is exactly what they want.
Impeachment doesn't go through the courts but is entirely a matter for Congress. They can impeach him for anything or nothing as long as they have the votes.
Even with a solid majority, the house and senate democrats will be too full of individual self-interests too do anything of the sort.
It's not individual self-interests, it's pretty blatant corruption to protect their donors, the US oligarchs. Any real investigation into republicans will implicate "democrat" billionaires as well.
Issue is, that won't necessarily happen, because a lot of democrats are cowards, and the right knows it. Many on the right calls this move of calling the opposition radicals in this way as a form of "cucking", so it shames some of them into preemptively conceding.
I'd like to entertain the idea that they're not actually cowards, but are either conservative plants, or are otherwise paid/controlled by the conservative agenda.
Democrat POLITICIANS are cowards, Democratic VOTERS are NOT. They are angry, and they want to go to WAR with MAGA, but our battlefield general is Schmuck Schumer, and he's a smarmy, insipid little bitch, and is more interested in insider trading than being the courageous warrior leader we need. He doesn't care at all who's in charge, as long as he can keep making money. PedoCons are fine with him. He's their best Democrat friend.
AOC needs to primary him, and kick him out of the Senate in humiliating fashion, just like she did to the calcified old fart whose Congressional seat she first took.
It will happen with a Democrat majority. It just doesn't mean anything because unless they have a supermajority and can get enough reps to agree on removal, impeachment ≠ removal from office. It's just the start of a trial to consider his removal. It's basically a slap on the wrist for him. He's already been impeached twice and nothing happened.
If a Democrat said what Mike Johnson was saying, the party would kick that person out for being unelectable.
Democrats don't want anyone interested in impeachment. They want serious, moderate, business friendly, popular politicians like Henry Cuellar and Robert Menendez.
There will just be a Dem Boogeyman for everyone to blame on why the party never does anything like Manchin and Sinema. They always just so happen to find a couple whenever they have a majority so they never have to actually do anything.
My concern if the dems do impeach Trump IF they win the midterms is that either he will not step down (which he can technically do) and then it’s moot. Or we impeach Trump, get Vance and then because he didn’t suck as bad as Trump we get another 4 years of a republican president.
Impeaching the kumquat in chief, at this point, is pointless. Even without the brainless leader, the system and people that allowed him to gain the office and to systematically destroy the United States economy, among other things, is still in place. Another crackpot maniacal leader is inevitable.
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Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 137 pts · 235d
Yet again Republicans think Democrats are way cooler than they are.
mcqtom@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 235d
The left is totally radical.
SPRUNT@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 235d
DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
kn33@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 235d
They've done it before
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 235d
Yeah, Trump's already been impeached twice and he got re-elected. So what the hell is Mikey complaining about? Who cares if the president is impeached?
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com · 83 pts · 235d
Radical left, meaningless term from these cunts. You could be anyone from Obama to Stalin and they'd still use it as an insult.
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works · -31 pts · 235d
You have a strange sense of 'left'.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com · 79 pts · 235d
I think you missed the point. They will call anyone who isn't a fascist "radical left" regardless of the person's political persuasion.
lennybird@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 235d
It's going to have the opposite effect in time. If center-right moderates are called radical Marxists, then they might as well at least be social democrats or democratic socialists anyway and at least have some sound policies instead of watered-down right-wing garbage.
AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 235d
if that held the democratic party would have gone left since Obama
lennybird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 234d
Well, they kind of have but that's also relative. Were it not for AIPAC's grip in the party, I wonder how much further they would've gone.
AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 234d
That's an insane thing to say
lennybird@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 234d
lol if you think that's insane then you should see the comment I tagged you with! ;)
DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works · 63 pts · 235d
I'm already voting Democrat, Mike. You don't have to sell it to me.
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 61 pts · 235d
Is this "American left wing" in the room with us right now?
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 235d
In America they've calibrated the political compass with Hitler at 0,0
AstaKask@lemmy.cafe · 6 pts · 234d
People have the weirdest political compasses now. Spoke to a crypto bloke the other day who was emphatic about Nazism being "leftist" ideology.
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 234d
That's years old right wing propaganda spread by the likes of Alex Jones for years. They use the 'socialism' in "national socialist" (part of the term Nazi comes from) to argue so, ignoring the fact that anyone can make a name whether or not it's true. If any socialist plans were made by the Nazis, it was of course racist first; only the in group gets any benefit.
These are old ideas that were niche at first but have been moving out into the public as the right shifts the Overton window. Stuff we'd dismiss at ridiculous crazy yelly conspiracy man is now mainstream even with people who might not want to be associated with Jones.
frostysauce@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 234d
Yeah, I love that one. "They have socialist in the name!" So you believe the People's Democratic Republic of Korea is all of those things?
The Nazis have socialist in the name because they joined with socialists in the early days to consolidate power and then they killed the socialists. Who what it they first came for in that poem? The fucking socialists.
TomArrr@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 235d
And every one knows he was a lefty, right?
fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 235d
To the American conservative? "National socialism" is all they need to hear, then they stop thinking
Rothe@piefed.social · 9 pts · 235d
American conservatives: "Hitler was a socialist. Also he did nothing wrong".
_Nico198X_@europe.pub · 31 pts · 234d
there is no "radical left." an enemy that does not exist.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 234d
wish there was
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 234d
"Radical left" is the Dems who actually want to do something. Don't worry though there aren't enough of them to get the job done.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 233d
By the rest of the world's standards, our left isn't even remotely left.
balsoft@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 234d
I mean, it should. But it doesn't.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 233d
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 235d
If they think it's the radical left advocating for the expected and traditional use of law as written and to it's normal effect, boy howdy have they got another thing coming.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 235d
No shit. That guy's in the Epstein Files. How can you not impeach him?
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 234d
No matter how radical any republican may think the left could be, the current people in charge are both actively protecting pedophiles, and are, themselves, guilty of abusing children.
Maybe we need some radical left right now, eh? Maybe the child rapists shouldn't be in charge.
Aneb@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 234d
Well these are the same folks with pedos running their hometown church. Pedophiles run deep in the church I expect them to elect them without thought
P1k1e@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 234d
Don't reason with idiots, just give em the boot and spit on em on the way out
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 234d
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 234d
can trump even be impeached anymore? as legally, whatever he does isn't a crime?
legally, he's a tyrant and the law protects him.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 233d
The courts declared that impeachment is the only option, not that there are zero options.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 233d
He was already impeached twice, they will do nothing besides symbolic tasks. so many people belong in jail, yet legally, that is now not possible because nothing trump does is illegal. and the dems will make a show of an impeachment then not remove him
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 233d
Impeachment is one half of the process. If the Dems held a supermajority in the Senate he would have been removed.
Yes, this requires a lot of things to have been different, and everyone would have had to be following the intent of the constitution, not just the letter, but there exists a way to remove him and put him in jail.
You can throw your hands up and say he's immune from any consequences, but if everyone did that then it would really be true.
I'm not saying people should blindly hope and do nothing, but quitting is exactly what they want.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 233d
This is exactly the idea behind the meme. They've already impeached him, twice. And nothing happened, it was all for show.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 233d
When they say bread and circus I did not expect the government to be the circus
logi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 234d
Impeachment doesn't go through the courts but is entirely a matter for Congress. They can impeach him for anything or nothing as long as they have the votes.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 233d
yhea, (if they were to do it). why impeach if they won't remove.
and technically, trump committed no crimes now.
InputZero@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 233d
Supreme Court shadow docket decision: Only the President can impeach the President.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 235d
I wouldn't be getting my hopes up.
If there's one thing watching US politics, from Europe these last +20 years, has taught me, then it's this:
Even with a solid majority, the house and senate democrats will be too full of individual self-interests too do anything of the sort.
The democrats need something like the heritage foundation to effectively herd them into a unified collaborating political party.
balsoft@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 234d
It's not individual self-interests, it's pretty blatant corruption to protect their donors, the US oligarchs. Any real investigation into republicans will implicate "democrat" billionaires as well.
Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 235d
'Yes! Keep our majority so our supreme leader can skirt around the law.'
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 234d
It would be so cool if we really had a radical left instead of the status quo centrists he's actually referring to.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 235d
the boogeyman of the right, the mythical left of the USA. says the PORN(probably gay or trans) obsessed man.
collapse_already@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 234d
Why are you protecting a known felon, Mike?
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 234d
you in that little black book, mike?
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 235d
Nothing happens even if they do, so what's the worry?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 235d
about the Republican voters starting to second guess their votes, this is just internal consumption for the right wing voters.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 235d
Third times the charm?
Not like it matters unless removal.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 233d
Issue is, that won't necessarily happen, because a lot of democrats are cowards, and the right knows it. Many on the right calls this move of calling the opposition radicals in this way as a form of "cucking", so it shames some of them into preemptively conceding.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 233d
I'd like to entertain the idea that they're not actually cowards, but are either conservative plants, or are otherwise paid/controlled by the conservative agenda.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 233d
Democrat POLITICIANS are cowards, Democratic VOTERS are NOT. They are angry, and they want to go to WAR with MAGA, but our battlefield general is Schmuck Schumer, and he's a smarmy, insipid little bitch, and is more interested in insider trading than being the courageous warrior leader we need. He doesn't care at all who's in charge, as long as he can keep making money. PedoCons are fine with him. He's their best Democrat friend.
AOC needs to primary him, and kick him out of the Senate in humiliating fashion, just like she did to the calcified old fart whose Congressional seat she first took.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 227d
Oh yeah is that 10 million less voted for Harris and handed the presidency to a convicted felon pedophile?
That's not bravery. That is selfish, irresponsible and stupid.
AOC doesn't seem to have any problem with voting to give more money to Israel, but I guess we'll just pretend that didn't happen.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 226d
They chose to not vote for Genocide. I can respect that, even if I don't agree with withholding my vote over it.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 233d
It will happen with a Democrat majority. It just doesn't mean anything because unless they have a supermajority and can get enough reps to agree on removal, impeachment ≠ removal from office. It's just the start of a trial to consider his removal. It's basically a slap on the wrist for him. He's already been impeached twice and nothing happened.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 227d
We continue to refuse to vote for Democrats and then whine about them not doing anything.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 234d
Inshallah
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 235d
Because he should be.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 234d
No middle ground, huh?
If you see all world as an enemy, the enemy will be you.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 234d
how come it is the republicans who are making the campaign statements dems should be making?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 233d
If a Democrat said what Mike Johnson was saying, the party would kick that person out for being unelectable.
Democrats don't want anyone interested in impeachment. They want serious, moderate, business friendly, popular politicians like Henry Cuellar and Robert Menendez.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 233d
They are a business. the party makes money from donations. they want people who donors like not leaders.
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 233d
Are these radical left in the room with us now?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 233d
Show me on this doll where the Radical Left touched you...
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 234d
There will just be a Dem Boogeyman for everyone to blame on why the party never does anything like Manchin and Sinema. They always just so happen to find a couple whenever they have a majority so they never have to actually do anything.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 235d
Don't threaten us with a good time
mean_bean279@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 235d
My concern if the dems do impeach Trump IF they win the midterms is that either he will not step down (which he can technically do) and then it’s moot. Or we impeach Trump, get Vance and then because he didn’t suck as bad as Trump we get another 4 years of a republican president.
Greyghoster@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 235d
Wow! Is that a promise?
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 230d
I love how the narrative always seems to be you are either Republican, or a radical. Lol
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 227d
Their president used his Christmas message to call half the country "scum".
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 227d
Apparently thinking a grossly unqualified, convicted felon pedophile shouldn't be president is "radical"?
No MAGA, you're the radicals.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 233d
We can only hope they do!
freewheel@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 233d
Impeaching the kumquat in chief, at this point, is pointless. Even without the brainless leader, the system and people that allowed him to gain the office and to systematically destroy the United States economy, among other things, is still in place. Another crackpot maniacal leader is inevitable.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 234d
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 233d
He will be starring in a holiday production of "The Nutcracker."
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
Only to those clowns like that, is something like justice considered radical.