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DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 251d
Because we've entered the Age of Ignorance.
vegeta@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 251d
If chemtrails aren't real, then explain this phenomenon:
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 6 pts · 251d
AJ our favorite dingdong. Not as inspired anymore but still just as stark raving mad. The recent interview with Fucker Carlson was 😚👌
Thanks KnowledgeFight!
mcv@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 251d
Gay frogs is more likely because of petrochemicals in the ground water.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 5 pts · 251d
Ground-Chemtrails
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 250d
Spread by top secret government contractors to control the population! It’s not like it could be contamination by unscrupulous manufacturers with completely insufficient oversight or environmental protection.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 251d
Obligatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8
Saprophyte@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
This American Life did a segment on AJ. I had no idea how f'ed up he was just generally as a person. This was before the divorce and custody trial when he claimed his whole persona is an act, but it made me think it wasn't. He truly is just that much of an asshole with no relation with reality .
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/670/beware-the-jabberwock
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 251d
This reminds me of the dipshits that wanted to legislate that the value of pi == 3.
Fucking brainless.
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 250d
They are passing them to win points with their base. Their base just happens to be morons.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 250d
If people could not be so fucking stupid, that'd be great. Thanks.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 250d
Hey! You and I are people. What the... /s
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 250d
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 251d
I suppose the condensing water vapor forming water crystals after a plane is a chemical too. So I guess the chemtrails are sort of real, but it is just water, and it's completely harmless.
The correct name for the phenomenon is contrails. Which unfortunately contains con as the lead of the word, so that's probably not helpful either.
The cause is hot air ejected from the jet engine creates water vapor, that is quickly cooled down at the low temperatures at high altitudes, this forms ice crystals that create the characteristic white trails after jet planes.
This is a result of physics, and it makes no sense to try to ban that, because physical laws of nature supersede human law every time.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 5 pts · 251d
I love your sense of humour, or lack thereof 🤣
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 251d
It was an attempt at a joke.
Ebber@lemmings.world · 5 pts · 250d
Chemtrails aren't real, but contrails are absolutely a thing, which the airline industry should be regulated to limit. They are a huge source of the global warning that airplanes cause: https://youtu.be/QoOVqQ5sa08
pupbiru@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 250d
hmmm that doesn’t really track imo: the amount of water that planes emit is negligible, and even if they do seed clouds they’re not actually creating significant cloud systems without the moisture in the atmosphere, which absolutely dwarfs anything that planes emit… remember the amount of moisture in the atmosphere is all the rain produced before aviation, and the amount of moisture in the atmosphere emitted by aviation is at most the difference between that rain and the rain since aviation (i’d wager it’s far less than 0.01%)
and seed clouds don’t actually create more clouds overall: they just move them from other locations. clouds are formed when humidity reaches a particular level at a particular layer of the atmosphere which exceeds the airs ability to hold onto it at that level, and the cloud stops forming when when it has reduced the humidity to the level to which it stays in the atmosphere
caboose2006@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 250d
How do you suggest airlines limit physics and chemistry?
Ebber@lemmings.world · 3 pts · 250d
Using currently available weather data to change flight routes. You can predict where they are likely to form and tell planes to avoid those airspaces.
If you watch the video I posted you'll hear a scientist who's studied this problem and shown it to be quite viable, for only a few dollars more per ticket. It's incredibly low hanging fruit that should've been implemented yesterday.
You can also check this website to read more about it https://contrails.org/
caboose2006@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
Hmmm. I see one problem with this. The cost estimate is very pie in the sky. If all air transport does this then that is going to lead to massive delays. Having a kilometer thick chunk of airspace unusable is cutting out 4 usable altitudes. Those planes now crowd already crowded airspace above and below. Not saying it shouldn't be tried but we should be more realistic about the cost.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 251d
I know I've seen a few of these laws verbiage and the only thing it would do is prevent farmers from crop dusting and other shit like cloud seeding, since that's done by spraying chemicals out of aircraft and that's what the laws are trying to stop. But for completely made-up, paranoid delusional reasons.
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 251d
How do you enforce laws written about things that don't exist?
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 251d
If you scare enough ppl about it, it exists. WMD's, pot crazed rapists, fentanol slinging Mexicans, Africans eating pets. When has reality ever gotten in the way of scaring white middle class America?
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 250d
Aequitas@feddit.org · 5 pts · 250d
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 250d
I'm pretty sure bears exist.
Aequitas@feddit.org · 2 pts · 250d
Not here tho. No bear in sight. The bear patrol must be working like a charm!
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 250d
Can't argue with that logic.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 251d
Well, if you pass a law outlawing Bigfoot and then no one ever runs across Bigfoot, I guess that means the law worked, right?
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 250d
There are already laws specifically intended to enforce rules that were written by a bunch of ancient goatherders, about a magical sky granpa who can't be proven to exist.
reddig33@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 251d
Meanwhile small engine planes still use leaded gas. But you don’t see politicians trying to outlaw that.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 250d
Technically you do. There’s always been talk about that. For like half a century. It’s a totally important issue we need to talk about
Cornpop@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 250d
This is what happens when you elect clueless idiots. Admittedly it’s funny seeing the chemtards wondering why they are still there after they got banned, as if they expected a perfectly clear sky after lol
Cloudstash@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 250d
It shows the public that they are at least going through the motions, and doing something, rather than not doing anything at all, which is what they are doing.
nao@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 251d
Wait there are laws about chemtrails?
silence7@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 251d
In a couple states, yes. They don't actually do anything to restrict the water vapor trails that aircraft routinely produce in cold air.
They in a couple cases impose restrictions on cloud seeding.
Triasha@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 250d
Banning contrails would actually have an impact on climate change.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 250d
This is such a waste of time and money. Everybody knows the real looming emergency is putting a fence up around the entire flat earth so we don't fall off the edge.
It is literally impossible to know how many have perished over the edge, but it is a LOT, and it has been going on throughout all of human history. It's long past time to stop the carnage!
bluegreenpurplepink@lemmy.world · -23 pts · 251d
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 251d
Except… they’re not the same thing. Geoengineering has been going on for over half a century, and involves dumping particles into different layers of the atmosphere. These particles are generally inert, but cause localized condensation.
That’s a totally different thing than the chemtrail conspiracies which argue that chemicals that aren’t inert are being distributed to make it into the air we breathe and the water we drink in order to alter the behavior of people.
Chemtrails are effectively closer to microplastic pollution than they are to geoengineering.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 251d
*would be
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
People hear about cloud seeding, which is very much a thing, and go "See! See! I TOLD YOU!" When it very much is not the same thing as "chemtrails".
https://www.dri.edu/cloud-seeding-program/what-is-cloud-seeding/
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 250d
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-admits-bio-weapons-tests/
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1977/03/09/army-conducted-239-secret-open-air-germ-warfare-tests/b17e5ee7-3006-4152-acf3-0ad163e17a22/
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/u-s-secretly-tested-carcinogen-in-western-canada-during-the-cold-war-researcher-discovers
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/1950-us-released-bioweapon-san-francisco-180955819/
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 250d
Why do people down vote documented facts?
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 250d
I could post documented facts about the chemtrails ants leave, and I’d be voted down too.
Because neither is really what the discussion is about here.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
Er. My links are directly linked to chemtrail conspiracies. Not ants. e.g.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 13 pts · 251d
No, it isn't. The first is something real that conspiracy crazies like to latch on to, the second is pure, dumb fiction on the level of the government put rainbows in our oxygen supply.
However these laws are phrased, it is obvious which popular demand they're satisfying 🤪