my argument is foolproof

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ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 256d

A critique of communism based on "human nature" is just a self-own by the West.

b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 33 pts · 256d

Humans learn and change their behaviour based on the culture they are raised in. Capitalism enforces greed by threat of violence, starvation, and homelessness.

Idiots: “gReEd Is HuMaN nAtUrE”

Dogiedog64@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 256d
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Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 256d (8 replies)

"Communism has yet to be achieved" "doesn't work"

I'm not a communist, but this is weak af.

TheFogan@programming.dev · 33 pts · 256d (1 reply)

Rabbits are completely incapable of surviving!, see every time we drop a rabbit into an enclosed space filled with wolves, they get eaten, it just proves that only carnivores are able to survive.

Oh hang on we need to drop more herbavores into our carnivore cages because we have to keep propping up these carnivores.

Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 256d
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Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 256d

Socialist societies run by communist parties do exist, and as such we can look to their struggles and successes as representative of achieving socialism and communism.

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 256d (4 replies)

It says "foolproof," duh.

Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 256d (3 replies)

My bad!

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 256d (2 replies)

We good.

Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 256d (1 reply)

Thank fuck!

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 256d

Ngl, I was a bit worried for a moment, too.

andrewrgross@slrpnk.net · 22 pts · 256d (2 replies)

Could you throw this back in the fryer? I think I see a few uncompressed pixels.

kogasa@programming.dev · 18 pts · 256d

LaTeX spitting out an immaculate pdf with carefully calculated text distribution and vectorized fonts just to have it printed and scanned by the camera on a razr flip phone:

Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 255d

Just put the fries in the bag, I like them moist.

theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 256d

The New York Times will pick this up with a title "academic definitively disproves communism".

VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 256d

I would have called bs, but you used LaTeX so it must be true.

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 1 pts · 256d (21 replies)

Pure capitalism hasn’t ever been tried either.

NewDark@lemmings.world · 9 pts · 256d (19 replies)

Please define pure capitalism

tourist@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 256d

it's regular capitalism but without pesky things like "environmental laws" and "human rights"

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -6 pts · 256d (17 replies)

Letting the free hand of the market do its thing unfettered by government regulations.

Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 256d

That's a fast trip to feudalism.

davel@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 256d (5 replies)

It’s like you took The Road to Serfdom as gospel at 17 and then turned your brain off ever since. Just a babe in the wood.

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -2 pts · 256d (4 replies)

In my dreams there are no woods just businesses as far as the eye can see all selling you your greatest dreams.

Like Times Square but everywhere.

davel@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 256d (2 replies)

The problem is that you still think those are realizable dreams when they’re not. You may as well dream of owning a flying unicorn.

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -5 pts · 256d (1 reply)

If the government wasn’t tying the hands of corporations through regulations and if there was enough consumer demand they definitely would be selling flying unicorns.

davel@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 256d

You’re already in fantasy land, so sure, why not. Also the flying unicorns fart rainbows.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 256d

That's a good bit

NewDark@lemmings.world · 8 pts · 256d (5 replies)

Using government issued currency? Is it still capitalism then?

So you're OK with corporations having the power over your life instead? Just allow them to pollute your drinking water or allow them to put whatever they want in your food? You want to try those things?

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -3 pts · 256d (4 replies)

I wish people would just think this though a bit.

Do you think corporations want to kill their customers?

No they want them to be rich, happy and healthy so they keep coming back and spending more money.

davel@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 256d

No they want them to be rich, happy and healthy so they keep coming back and spending more money.

It’s like cigarette companies never existed. Babe in the wood.

You may not be a parody account but you may as well be.

NewDark@lemmings.world · 11 pts · 256d

Corporations want one thing, profits.

If you can make profit by enslaving people, cutting corners with health and safety standards, and polluting the environment, they will. If they don't, they'll get "out competed" by the companies that do and drive the "inefficient" companies out of business. Then we get monopolization which we can't do anything about because that's regulation.

xthexder@l.sw0.com · 10 pts · 256d

they want them to be rich, happy and healthy so they keep coming back and spending more money.

See there's the problem right there. They don't need customers to be any of those things to suck every last cent out of them. Corporations would love nothing more than becoming a monopoly on human essentials like food, water, housing, etc... because people will go to great lengths to afford food whether they like it or not.

bountygiver@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 256d

The problem is for each company that thinks of long term, you have 10 companies that only thinks of short term.

blaue_Fledermaus@olio.cafe · 7 pts · 256d

free market means consumers are free to choose where to buy from, it absolutely requires government regulations.

pineapple@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 255d

Is this just anarcho capitalism?

BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 256d

The entire system is property and contact law that underpins capitalism is a government regulation. You talk like "the Free Hand" is an interventionist god, but it's not actually real, and capitalism only exists because the government enforces it

RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 255d

There's no capitalism without government, because without a military and police force the rich can't enforce their own profitability

HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 255d

Yes it has. It was so shitty that all the capitalist countries had to introduce bandages like welfare and social safety nets to avoid collapsing from just how bad of an idea capitalism is.

BryceBassitt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 256d (3 replies)

I mean, I agree communism is an impossible dream. Socialism is much more obtainable

Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 256d

Communism is just the natural result of a socialist society working through and resolving its contradictions. Socialism is of course necessary before communism, socialism is the transition between capitalism and communism. There's nothing about communism that's impossible or a dream.

davel@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 256d (1 reply)

And by socialism you mean what? The Nordic model?

petersr@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 255d

Sorry, I don't know how to put this more politely and still correctly: What the hell is that crazy article?