"In the future, nobody will care."
I wonder if he had that idea before or after Patrick Stewart was cast as Picard.
I've always appreciated Roddenberry's explanation for this.
"In the future, nobody will care."
I wonder if he had that idea before or after Patrick Stewart was cast as Picard.
61 Comments
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 70 pts · 244d
After/during the casting process. Originally, Gene Roddenberry didn't want a bald actor to play Picard, becausr in his opinion there should be a cure to male pattern baldness in the future. Stewart was even asked to bring a hair piece for the audition. However, Roddenberry was talked out of it by basically everyone else with any responsibility in the casting process (partly because Stewart looked somewhat cursed with a hairpiece).
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 244d
Here's what that may have looked like as used in flashback from s5e12 "Violations"
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 61 pts · 244d
There's also this picture:
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 244d
Yup, often mistaken for a pre-pilot test shot. You can see the metal bit on his right temple.
kieron115@startrek.website · 14 pts · 243d
He looks like he just got caught trying to hide a toad in the teacher's bag.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 243d
Given what I've heard about the TNG cast's behavior on set I'd be more surprised if he didn't at some point.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 4 pts · 243d
Should have given him a pony tail like pre HL1 Gordon Freeman
teft@piefed.social · 17 pts · 244d
I'd blame that on the hairdresser. They didn't have to give him a fivehead.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 244d
BWAhahahahahah! Oh shit, I just choked on my coffee!
Thanks for the hearty laugh.. gonna hafta remember this one!
Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 243d
hafta?
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 243d
"have to" - spelled in a New Englandah's accent. (Bostonian, north to Portland Maine, coastal)
drzoidberg@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 244d
More like this. Considering this is literally him for his final audition, with the wig.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 244d
Just added to the other same shot commented:
hypnicjerk@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 244d
some serious chuck mcgill energy
SatyrSack@quokk.au · 4 pts · 243d
HE DEFECATED THROUGH A VIEWPORT!
Mercury@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 243d
And he gets to be a captain?! What a sick joke.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 244d
Yeeeaaaahhh. No.
Gimme that beautiful smooth head anyday.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 243d
They say you can see God in his baldshine.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 243d
This, I do not doubt. ;)
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 55 pts · 243d
The thing is, by this point in their timeline, hair loss isn't a stigma nor considered a deficiency.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 243d
Exactly! There is no cure for a thing which is not an ailment. He chooses to have no hair. Probably a lot easier and faster in the sonic shower. And can be on the bridge during an early hour red alert without having bed head.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 12 pts · 243d
I'm sure that If he chose to, it would be something like a skin regenerator and he would have a full head of hair within minutes
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 243d
Dermal rejuvenation.
moody@lemmings.world · 11 pts · 243d
Just reverse the polarity
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 243d
Jiggawatts
trolololol@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 243d
Great Scott!
marlowe221@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 243d
Clearly the cure involves a routine, unorthodox use of the deflector dish…
Saber_is_dead@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 243d
we could reroute power from the warp coil
shittydwarf@piefed.social · 48 pts · 244d
In my head canon society had developed such that male pattern baldness was seen as natural and not anything that needed to be cured. But the Picard series sort of debunked that
gustofwind@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 243d
this is correct and we can just pretend the Picard series doesn't exist
eleijeep@piefed.social · 11 pts · 243d
the what?
MrQuallzin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 243d
The Who?
dalekcaan@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 243d
The The?
ZombieMantis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 243d
The ?
gustofwind@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 243d
::: spoiler spoiler
:::
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 243d
Or it could be cured, and Pickard just didn't, as an absolute power move.
kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 244d
iirc that was Patrick Stewart's explaination for it too
Canopyflyer@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 243d
Funny enough, I'm good friends with the woman who was the lead researcher of Proctor and Gambles' program for a hair growth product back in the 90's. Ultimately, P&G was forced to abandon the effort after many many years.
My friend stated she could grow hair on a cue ball. The only issue was the cue ball wouldn't survive the process.
Short story long... It is possible to cure male and female baldness. The only problem is the patient would not survive the toxic cocktail that growing hair requires.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 243d
...there's already a cure for this though? minoxidil, great for filling out beards
Canopyflyer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 243d
Minoxidil has a very narrow efficacy.
P&G's project was aimed primarily to cure baldness in.... Women and not men. Surprising I know, but back in those days baldness in women was viewed as a more lucrative target market. They were also going for much stronger and broader results than what Minoxidil generally provides in order to compete with it. Minoxidil was developed by Upjohn in the 50's.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 243d
i do recall hearing something about the head-hair results not being as effective as beard-hair result, something about different hair follicle types? just pulling from memory/personal experience though, no studies or anything
beard results do appear to be permanent, slightly less thick when you stop but long as you use it for a year or so it does seem to fill out a pube-beard permanently.
negativenull@piefed.world · 22 pts · 244d
Picard's baldness is a choice, just like Geordi's visor.
Edit: And Kovich's glasses
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 244d
At least until the films, when LeVar wanted to be able to emote differently. That scene from Insurrection always tugs at the heartstrings.
negativenull@piefed.world · 25 pts · 244d
Choices can change! That's the beauty of Trek!
bizzle@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 243d
There's nothing wrong with being bald
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 243d
Certainly saves on shampoo.
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 243d
My head canon is that in the Star Trek future everyone knows exactly what causes baldness so it's seen as a sign of masculinity/virility. Why do you think Picard was able to get with all those hotties?
Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 243d
Head canon :D
essell@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 243d
When Seven was first rescued, the Doctor talked about stimulating her hair folicals. He called a vicarious experience.
So clearly there is a way to "cure ' it, if someone did want to.
Not everyone cares about being bold. Plus he knows Guinan likes it.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 243d
I agree with your statement!
Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 243d
Maybe not everyone does, but I care about equal representation.
Ibuthyr@feddit.org · 1 pts · 243d
To boldly go where no one has gone before requires caring about being bold.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 244d
aside from the others, here's Patrick Stewart talking about baldness and hairpieces : https://youtu.be/bqm_Iq8rFeg?t=93
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 243d
"In the future, nobody will care"
Rodenberry was already asked this question. That was his answer.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 244d
Patrick Stewart showed up wearing his customary toupee. It looked so ridiculous that they asked him to lose it and just go with a bald character.
EDIT:
https://youtu.be/PTu1FX1rOFQ
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 243d
Star Trek in many ways is completely off the mark wrt to the levels of technology portrayed.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 4 pts · 244d
https://youtu.be/zklIGXVdibo
He he is playing Hamlet circa 1969. Looks like a wig to me, but what do I know?
ClipperDefiance@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 243d
I once watched a biography on him. It mentioned that he had lost most of his hair by his early 20s. Since he would have been 29 in 1969 he would have to be wearing a wig in the video.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 1 pts · 243d
I was trying to find a clip of him from the show "I, Claudius" where he played a duplicitous centurion.
This one had funnier hair.
AnyOldName3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 243d
In 1 Clavdivs, his character's name had anus in it, so maybe try an image search for hairy anus?
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 1 pts · 243d
I'm going out on a limb here, but I think you're the kind of chap who has spent a great deal of time search the interwebs for 'hairy anus.'