10 years of talking about a healthcare plan, and it is a single page with not much to go on.
It's like he had someone list talking points for a speech, where they would avoid any questions about how they planned to bring down the costs other than, "have them list their prices and claim denials."
This looks like it was written by a group of 5th graders, who got bored half way through the assignment and hurriedly finished it so they could go outside with the rest of the class, after they had spent the first 30mins eating pencil erasers.
And the bit about sending government subsidies to taxpayers for them to buy insurance instead of directly funding insurance companies...
I guess it's not socialism if you get the money first?
These fucking morons have no functioning brain cells... If daddy Trump says it then it's good. If a Democrat says the same fucking thing then it's evil communism socialism death panel insurance scam....
Cost sharing is a religious loophole for Christians who think insurance is gambling. It's basically religious gofundme agreements that ensure you can't pay for medicine that Christians disapprove of.
I love how these rich fucks think "let the people shop for their own healthcare plans" would help anything. As if I could afford private insurance not subsidized by my employer?
None of these are material financial levers that would drive down healthcare costs. Overhead and claims payments are visible in health insurance companies' public financials. Displaying denial rates doesn't change denial rates. More otc seems like it has potential for abuse by patients i.e., creating unsafe environments where people have carte blanche access to drugs (could see it maybe modestly lowering prices for a subset of medication) - prices on the wall? When your appendix bursts, good luck going shopping for the best price. What are you gonna do, die in the lobby while "shopping"?
This "plan" is a bad joke. While for profit health insurance has it's inefficiencies and misaligned incentives, the answer is NOT this - it's clearly single payer.
Don’t forget that prescription meds get applied to our deductibles, but OTC meds don’t. In other words, it’s more money from consumers’ pockets and a lower chance of insurance having to pay out.
True, hadn't considered that. The more you read into it (there's not much to go off of - it's still an outline...) the more glaring gaps and inadequacy is revealed. It's pathetic.
Of course he wants to make more drugs "over the counter" so doctor Google can prescribe expensive medicines you likely don't need and ditch the real doctor.
Buying over-the-counter meds doesn’t count toward your deductible. I swear this is just another way to get consumers to pay more while letting insurance companies off the hook.
I do think that reducing the number of doctors visits required would be great. I don't think anyone would hit it where it's really impactful (allowing schedule 2 meds with long term consistency to drop to annual visits instead of quarterly). But yeah this is an ai list not an expert plan
People still have the hope that the Epstein files will take him down. I think nothing will happen even if it comes out he trafficked and raped children.
What's in the Epstein files is the one thing that could bring that motherfucker down. His base will handle a lot of shit but raping 14 yr olds isn't one of them.
His supporters think the files were already released and it didn't sink him. What makes you think when they release a bunch more than don't directly implicate Trump that his supporters will change their tune?
In the meantime his secret police are murdering and disappearing people on the streets, his military are murdering random people in the ocean, and just kidnapped a foreign leader. He's threatening to invade a NATO ally.
Megyn Kelly literally said that raping 14 year olds is not as bad as raping 10 year olds. They will justify it and keep going, these people don't care about anything.
And it’s also bigger than just him. This is the zionist billionaire class and a fxkload of royal houses of Europe that are implicated in this. Exposing this stops this stupid empire.
Hey, not just your kids. I'm sure they are 'importing' kids in to rape as well.
(There used to be an island run by the orange paedo's best mate Jeffery Epstein where they all would congregate for their rapings but, for some strange reason, no one wants to talk about that anymore...)
The surprising part is that people are still alarmed by this. I mean, come on. What were they expecting? Something halfway decent from the president of Venezuela? Maybe the FIFA peace prize winner and his henchmen were going to deliver a 305 page triumph over the corruption and greed that is our healthcare system? Set your expectations lower than what you expect and you will rarely be disappointed. In this case, the floor is standard and you'll break out even.
I mean this is a pretty easy task, how are they fucking it up so badly?! You look at countries with affordable effective health care, then copy their work. It's not like they've copyrighted their legislation. Hell most of them will probably help you implement what they've done and tell you all about the pain points if you ask nicely.
Countries with affordable health care tend to have heavy regulations and use taxes to help fund the system. MAGA would probably riot over "socialism" and "guvurnment overreach"
Yes, but it feels more expensive and requires the government behave competently (Republicans are ideologically opposed to functioning government) this results in it being his job as a Republican to not understand any of this
It's wild that this number of people, who are at best willfully ignorant and at worst wildly corrupt, have managed to congregate in the highest offices of one of the most powerful countries on the planet. It's difficult to believe that Hanlon's Razor might apply to this group of people given they seem so adamantly opposed to helping the people they apparently serve and represent and so driven to pursue the anguish of minorities. They are almost comically evil we need to resort to fantasy to describe them: dragons hording a pile of wealth; ghouls sucking the life out of everything around them; liches that wont fucking die already.
Healthcare ideas from a guy who’s about to kick the bucket and some guy with a voice that sounds like when I have stubborn phlegm in my throat. What a time to be alive.
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Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 126 pts · 234d
So all the healthcare plan is missing is the "healthcare" part and the "plan" part.
Sounds about par for the course 😮💨
benignintervention@piefed.social · 49 pts · 234d
It's almost a concept of a plan
someguy3@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 234d
COAP. Pronounced cope.
4am@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 234d
Suppose Everyone Enjoys This Hell, Eh?
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 234d
Trump will promise to design the biggest, best boat ever then hand you a stick and say it's done.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 80 pts · 234d
10 years of talking about a healthcare plan, and it is a single page with not much to go on.
It's like he had someone list talking points for a speech, where they would avoid any questions about how they planned to bring down the costs other than, "have them list their prices and claim denials."
dipcart@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 234d
Yeah I was gonna say. This sounds more like a proposal you would make on the campaign trail than an actual plan
Ulvain@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 234d
And a bunch of em-dashes!
SupraMario@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 234d
This looks like it was written by a group of 5th graders, who got bored half way through the assignment and hurriedly finished it so they could go outside with the rest of the class, after they had spent the first 30mins eating pencil erasers.
SendMePhotos@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 234d
Fund cost sharing...? Isn't that socialism?
Asafum@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 234d
And the bit about sending government subsidies to taxpayers for them to buy insurance instead of directly funding insurance companies...
I guess it's not socialism if you get the money first?
These fucking morons have no functioning brain cells... If daddy Trump says it then it's good. If a Democrat says the same fucking thing then it's evil communism socialism death panel insurance scam....
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 234d
Cost sharing is a religious loophole for Christians who think insurance is gambling. It's basically religious gofundme agreements that ensure you can't pay for medicine that Christians disapprove of.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 234d
I love how these rich fucks think "let the people shop for their own healthcare plans" would help anything. As if I could afford private insurance not subsidized by my employer?
Sludge@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 234d
None of these are material financial levers that would drive down healthcare costs. Overhead and claims payments are visible in health insurance companies' public financials. Displaying denial rates doesn't change denial rates. More otc seems like it has potential for abuse by patients i.e., creating unsafe environments where people have carte blanche access to drugs (could see it maybe modestly lowering prices for a subset of medication) - prices on the wall? When your appendix bursts, good luck going shopping for the best price. What are you gonna do, die in the lobby while "shopping"?
This "plan" is a bad joke. While for profit health insurance has it's inefficiencies and misaligned incentives, the answer is NOT this - it's clearly single payer.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 234d
Don’t forget that prescription meds get applied to our deductibles, but OTC meds don’t. In other words, it’s more money from consumers’ pockets and a lower chance of insurance having to pay out.
Sludge@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 234d
True, hadn't considered that. The more you read into it (there's not much to go off of - it's still an outline...) the more glaring gaps and inadequacy is revealed. It's pathetic.
9point6@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 234d
Look at all that negative space, it's barely more than half a page
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com · 7 pts · 234d
Is it Trump's mission in life to make the word "great" completely meaningless?
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 234d
He means "great" as "large or immense". He's using it in the pejorative sense.
AlexLost@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 234d
Of course he wants to make more drugs "over the counter" so doctor Google can prescribe expensive medicines you likely don't need and ditch the real doctor.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 234d
Buying over-the-counter meds doesn’t count toward your deductible. I swear this is just another way to get consumers to pay more while letting insurance companies off the hook.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 234d
I do think that reducing the number of doctors visits required would be great. I don't think anyone would hit it where it's really impactful (allowing schedule 2 meds with long term consistency to drop to annual visits instead of quarterly). But yeah this is an ai list not an expert plan
end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 234d
More like continue to slash reimbursement and push AI
kingofras@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 234d
3abas@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 234d
What are you waiting for exactly? Enough has been released to justify action, what are you waiting for?
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 234d
People still have the hope that the Epstein files will take him down. I think nothing will happen even if it comes out he trafficked and raped children.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 234d
Jesus you people.. Do you think not releasing the Epstein files is really the worst thing going on?
Like "Hitler invading Poland was a distraction!"
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 234d
What's in the Epstein files is the one thing that could bring that motherfucker down. His base will handle a lot of shit but raping 14 yr olds isn't one of them.
FishFace@piefed.social · 6 pts · 234d
His supporters think the files were already released and it didn't sink him. What makes you think when they release a bunch more than don't directly implicate Trump that his supporters will change their tune?
In the meantime his secret police are murdering and disappearing people on the streets, his military are murdering random people in the ocean, and just kidnapped a foreign leader. He's threatening to invade a NATO ally.
Get some perspective.
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 234d
Megyn Kelly literally said that raping 14 year olds is not as bad as raping 10 year olds. They will justify it and keep going, these people don't care about anything.
kingofras@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 234d
Aye
And it’s also bigger than just him. This is the zionist billionaire class and a fxkload of royal houses of Europe that are implicated in this. Exposing this stops this stupid empire.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 234d
The files are a distraction too.
vegeta@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 234d
the_tab_key@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 234d
Binders full of women
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 234d
Is his plan to rape kids and then make sure the oligarchs have no laws or accountability of any kind so they can bleed us dry while raping our kids?
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 234d
Hey, not just your kids. I'm sure they are 'importing' kids in to rape as well.
(There used to be an island run by the orange paedo's best mate Jeffery Epstein where they all would congregate for their rapings but, for some strange reason, no one wants to talk about that anymore...)
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 234d
This is why I stopped asking what else this fucking bastard is going to do next.
He's just doing work for Putin.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 234d
This is libelous. He's also doing work for the Saudis.
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 234d
The surprising part is that people are still alarmed by this. I mean, come on. What were they expecting? Something halfway decent from the president of Venezuela? Maybe the FIFA peace prize winner and his henchmen were going to deliver a 305 page triumph over the corruption and greed that is our healthcare system? Set your expectations lower than what you expect and you will rarely be disappointed. In this case, the floor is standard and you'll break out even.
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 234d
I mean this is a pretty easy task, how are they fucking it up so badly?! You look at countries with affordable effective health care, then copy their work. It's not like they've copyrighted their legislation. Hell most of them will probably help you implement what they've done and tell you all about the pain points if you ask nicely.
pivot_root@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 234d
Countries with affordable health care tend to have heavy regulations and use taxes to help fund the system. MAGA would probably riot over "socialism" and "guvurnment overreach"
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 234d
Nah that's incorrect, the American system costs the government more per capita than Australia's with significantly worse outcomes for end users.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 234d
Yes, but it feels more expensive and requires the government behave competently (Republicans are ideologically opposed to functioning government) this results in it being his job as a Republican to not understand any of this
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 234d
It's wild that this number of people, who are at best willfully ignorant and at worst wildly corrupt, have managed to congregate in the highest offices of one of the most powerful countries on the planet. It's difficult to believe that Hanlon's Razor might apply to this group of people given they seem so adamantly opposed to helping the people they apparently serve and represent and so driven to pursue the anguish of minorities. They are almost comically evil we need to resort to fantasy to describe them: dragons hording a pile of wealth; ghouls sucking the life out of everything around them; liches that wont fucking die already.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 233d
Notwithstanding but that's been the Republican plan details since the inception of the ACA.
fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 234d
Healthcare ideas from a guy who’s about to kick the bucket and some guy with a voice that sounds like when I have stubborn phlegm in my throat. What a time to be alive.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 234d
Trumps new healthcare plan, a bullet in every back and a child ready to be raped.
EndOfLine@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 234d
"alarmed" = not surprised
PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 234d
This guy CLEARLY does not care about any of us, guys. It just sucks we gotta wait his sick ass out....
Ironfist79@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 234d
Do we really though?
circuitfarmer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 234d