Planning on ditching Spotify & I'm wondering what y'all thing of qobuz vs. tidal. Seems like neither have podcasts so I'll have to get a separate app for that. What are your thoughts?
Planning on ditching Spotify & I'm wondering what y'all thing of qobuz vs. tidal. Seems like neither have podcasts so I'll have to get a separate app for that. What are your thoughts?
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Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 208d
I had tidal for about a year and was happy with it. Sound quality is nice, app is clean, tidal connect is nice. Recommendations were not great and discovering new music I liked was a bit of a chore.
I have qobuz now (had it in the past too, for a while). App is more to my taste, very little clutter. Qobuz connect is now here and it works, so I can stream music over wifi to my stereo system. Finding new music is a lot better than spotify or tidal (imho) Recommendations are better, the magazine and editorial stuff is super nice and they have one simple feature that makes a world of difference to me: you can click on the record label of albums and see what else is on that label. So simple, but it’s by far my favourite way of finding new stuff.
DampSquid@feddit.uk · 21 pts · 208d
Qobuz has come a long way in the last year or so, it's fantastic now.
I'm just here to agree with you
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 208d
That sounds legit.
Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 208d
Both have free trials, I think. You can try them both for a month and decide after that.
Jumi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 208d
I didn't know the last point. Thanks for telling.
DampSquid@feddit.uk · 25 pts · 208d
Qobuz because its not American
otter@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 208d
Use the free trials with both and see what you prefer!
For podcasts, if you're on android, check out AntennaPod
edit: Adding some more information
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 208d
I had to check, I'm using Antenna Pod having moved from pocketcast due to its American ownership.
Fantastic app, I'm loving it and being open source is a massive win
StickyDango@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 208d
Just downloaded it. It has all the ones I listen to! It just makes it that much easier now to ditch Spotify. Now to decide to go with Qobuz or Tidal.
Edit: Rude. Forgot to say thank you!
otter@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 208d
No problem :)
klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol · 2 pts · 208d
If you listen on multiple devices, you can also use gpodder (self-hostable if it's a concern) to sync your listens. I use Kasts on desktop, AntennaPod on mobile. Kasts is on mobile too, but the UI on mobile is... Infuriating at best
MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca · 18 pts · 208d
I've bounced around. Liked Tidal but can't support an American company these days. I'm currently on Qobuz and enjoy it. The UI isn't amazing but it's not bad. I really enjoy the playlists/essential listening features, I've fallen down a lot of interesting wormholes that way. They're also curated by people not algorithms, so your personal recommendations might not be as on point as you're used to but the general playlists have a wide enough selection that I've had a great time.
There's a service called Soundiiz that helps you move favourites/playlists etc from one service to another relatively painfree, so honestly, maybe give each one of them a couple months and see what works best for you?
GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 208d
I see this as an absolute win! The algorithmically personalized playlists always end up just playing the same set of tracks over and over. I want new music that I like, not the same stale playlists.
GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 208d
Lol. Signed up for Qobuz (super annoying they block all of Proton's email mask domains), and within 10 minutes I get an email from Spotify that my monthly price is increasing.
greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 207d
I forgot about the proton thing. I had to sign up with a different email. Then I kept having app issues and it took forever to figure out how to contact them. They only got back to me after my free trial expired. Ugh I'm still on Spotify but at least I'm not the one paying for Spotify.
subtex@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 208d
I've been testing out Qobuz recently since I'm in a similar ditching-Spotify place in my life. Honestly I think it's a great alternative. Sound quality is great and it has the multi device sync/status like Spotify.
I don't know what that feature is actually called but the feature where you can have a song playing in the app on your phone, open the app on a different device like your tablet, and it will show the "now playing" in the minimized player along with the name of your phone that it's playing (and you can swap it to play immediately on the tablet now instead). That feature in Spotify was a big one for me. Love that Qobuz has it.
I'm still building my listening history so I can't comment on how good the recommendations will be. But the suggestions I've gotten in the last few weeks were spot on.
Not sure what people are talking about with the app ui. It's a good app. Maybe it was bad in the past and they have made improvements? But coming from Spotify I think you'd have no issues using it.
Give the free trial a shot.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
I think I will.
observes_depths@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 208d
Ah nice. Tidal is great but the device sync is one thing it doesn't do.
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 12 pts · 208d
EDIT: Take this post with a big grain of salt. I couldn't verify the claim, because I couldn't find the twitter profile of the CEO (then and now) Richard Sanders. However, the company is ultimately controlled and owned by Block, Inc. (formerly Square inc.), where Jack Dorsey has a 79% ownership (2025). He's a billionaire, the twitter co-founder, Bluesky founder, and so on.
I'm moving from Tidal asap. Because the CEO seems to be pro-genocide, at the very least.
Claims I've seen here and some other shit elsewhere:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BoycottIsrael/comments/1bi8cnq/music_apps_that_are_not_on_the_boycott_list/
gigachad@piefed.social · 10 pts · 208d
I recently switched to Tidal, before realizing is was US american. However I am pretty happy so far, I especially like their algorithms. While Spotify always went to the same shitty pop songs, Tidal started to get a grasp of my taste after about 2-3 weeks. What I really don't like: I have to search a song with every letter spelled correctly or I won't find the song. Also I can't search via lyrics, a feature I really liked about Spotify. Is Quboz able to do those two things?
emotional_soup_88@programming.dev · 7 pts · 208d
But in all seriousness, I've been using Tidal through USB Audio Player with an Audioquest DAC on an Android phone for the past five years and listening to music with this setup feels like an effing privilege. Would I have chosen today, I might have gone with Qobuz because it's a European product, but at this point, as long as I don't find out that the people at Tidal are monsters, I don't think I will switch to anything else.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 208d
Jack Dorsey’s square is the majority owner of tidal now. Not great, but not as terrible as many of the other streaming services’ ownership. Still don’t understand why on earth Jack endorsed RFK for president.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 208d
Cool, Qobuz seems like a a decent service. I heard the UI was a bit lacking.
klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol · 6 pts · 208d
Lot of people are talking about Qobuz's music recs, so figured I'd drop this here:
If it becomes a problem, ListenBrainz gives good recommendations. I use PanoScrobbler on mobile to sync listens. Only issue I can see is that it is owned by MetaBrainz (not affiliated with Facebook), which is an American company.
unsettlinglymoist@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 208d
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
Good stuff to know.
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 208d
Qobuz
davici@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 208d
Qobuz wouldn't allow me to sign up with a proton alias. I also tried deezer but they wouldn't stop sending spam. Out of the two I'd recommend deezer.
greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 207d
The Deezer spam is real! And same issue with proton.
Psychadelic_Sheep@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 208d
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 207d
I'll check those out too!
CaptainCancel@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 207d
I’m planning to stop using Tidal. I get too many errors when playing.
GottaHaveFaith@fedia.io · 4 pts · 208d
I know you can ((download)) music from tidal, not sure about qobuz (I remember doing it long ago, not sure about now)
spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 208d
Qobuz has a download store still.
fdnomad@programming.dev · 4 pts · 207d
I've tried both and prefer Qobuz over Tidal. Qobuz has daily and weekly discovery playlists and staff curated a lot of lists. I found Tidal to be less responsive and the recommendations worse.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 4 pts · 208d
Try them both for sure. I tried quobuz after tidal and overall preferred the experience except for new artist discovery - Tidal was much better in that regards. Since that was such an important part of my enjoyment, I switched back to Tidal. Both worked great with the WiiM. Good luck.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 208d
I am locked into a family plan with Spotify that I justify by thinking that we're not actually family so we're cheating them.
I see Quobuz also has a family plan but with the same proviso that you're supposed to live at the same address. How strict do they check?
We have never had any problems on Spotify.
Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 201d
I'm using Tidal on a family plan. No such controls to any extent seem to exist on it.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 201d
When you signed up, were you all in the same location?
Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 201d
Nope.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 207d
Same address thing is annoying but again, how well do they check? I am trying to convince my SO to switch.
Quazatron@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 208d
One more vote for Tidal. High quality and large catalog, I've been using it for years.
hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 208d
there are downloader tools available for both qobuz and tidal, so you can have your music library mirrored locally too
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
Offline mode is a must. 🙌
observes_depths@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 208d
I love Tidal but you can't edit playlists while offline. Big annoyance for me. Not sure about Qobuz.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 207d
use Soulseek instead
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 208d
I tried Deezer and tidal for a month each. They were both alright, however their offline download for bigger playlists straight up sucked, so that took some sanity out of me and I had to switch back to Spotify ultimately.
Please keep this in mind if you ever consider switching.
Creativity@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 208d
Download + offline listening is also something I look for in a music app. I just went through the free trials for deezer and qobuz. Deezer's download was straight up stupid - I couldn't find a way to force it to immediately download updates after modifying a playlist. With qobuz you could force the download immediately, but it makes you select "download only" before you start the music, or it defaults to streaming. Every single time. Sometimes the playlist got corrupted too if a song was removed. I'm almost ready to start buying music again...
DoubleDongle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
Is there anything wrong with Pandora?
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
I haven't thought about it. 🤷♂️
agavaa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
What is Pandora? I haven't heard of it.
HeerlijkeDrop@thebrainbin.org · 3 pts · 208d
An early music streaming service which for some reason, is only available in a few chosen countries. US and Canada, I think
Krusty@feddit.it · 2 pts · 207d
Yes, Tidal if you need reccomendation and personalized algorithms, Qobuz if not
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 207d
Well I don't super need recommendations. I just ask people what they've listened to.
kepix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 208d
they all look and feel the same. all comes down to the content. do they have all your favourite artist? are there any cool playlists?
i wouldnt be worried about the podcasts, if you only listen to them on one device. its just an app.
observes_depths@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 208d
All of them have all major record labels and personally I've never searched for something that isn't on Tidal
Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 201d
Anybody know how much each of these two pays the artists? Tidal has been trying to profile as a service where the artists get more money than at competitors, but that does not necessarily mean Qobuz is really different from it in that manner!
Anybody know something about this aspect?
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
Right here!
Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 201d
Awesome, thanks!