I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark judging by the rust around the badge that this car was made before this person made the choice to boycott the US.
Stand by your choice and sell, but it has nothing to do with that. It's identity politics. Also, there are plenty of toyotas made in Canada if that person was actually that true to it and not looking for clout.
Why buy from the US anyways? Anything quality is expensive as hell, and the rest is either trash consumer grade (read: shitty) products designed by a capitalist more than an engineer, or imported.
We do have exports that people wanted prior. Bourbon, corn, guitars, etc. We have major brands, agricultural products, and other categories that are purchased abroad.
Oh, I didn't say we had no exports. I said other places make better stuff. (at least for anything that's not ridiculously expensive in order to pay proper American craftsmen a skilled job's wage)
I was trying to demonstrate that your point is sort of juvenile. American products being expensive? Sure. Are there things you can't get elsewhere? Yes. Is everything produced domestically probably worse? That one is just remarkably stupid.
Currently trying to get my friends to leave messenger, text message groups do pretty much anything messenger does without putting money in that assholes pocket.
Fuck if it isn't an uphill battle though
My other alternative is discord just because they all have accounts there.
You know you can just stop using it. I'm stuck with having a fb because of my job but I never answer messenger more quickly than a week later and I always include that I don't use messenger in my response. You don't have to control your friends' actions.
I know, but at least the transition is easier, given a lot of my contacts have accounts already. I already gave up on trying to get people on decentralized platforms.
The rural areas sure. Edmonton and Calgary are not. They’re the stronghold for the provincial NDP. Wasn’t too long ago that Alberta had an NDP government on the strength of their support in those two cities.
Many things already are, but it's not an environmental choice but a boycott so it's not about being overseas or not anyways. Why support a country that's actively hostile to you, ya know?
In practical terms it tends to be buying the strawberries from Mexico instead of California for example. The grocery stores literally have little maple leaf symbols on the prices to help, and little tariff symbols as well. Plus people aren't traveling to the US as that's a way of not "buying" from there too, often opting to travel within that country or overseas.
I get your point and I find it annoying that US Americans have ended up taking what should have been a more generic demonym for the Americas too but it is generally the accepted term for those living to our immediate south (at least in English-speaking Canada)
Are you serious? Even ignoring the fact that doing deals with China is not "pulling our pants down and bending over", the fact is we, as a non-superpower, need to sometimes choose the lesser of two evils and only one of the two countries is repeatedly insulting and threatening our sovereignty. Your reduction of our work on diversifying our economy in the face of (active) economic and (potential) military invasion by the USA is so maddening
I literally just came from Xinjiang. Yeah no I'll trust my own eyes and the Uhigurs I'm still in contact with over some article sourcing people who literally have never been there.
Yeah no I'll trust some rando on social media over actually seeing multiple news threads from several trusted sources and has been widely known globally for the last few decades.
I like how everyone in this thread is pretending that there are good guys somewhere when in the entire history of humanity there have never been good guys.
Did you mean to respond to someone else? I'm vaguely aware of the schools, starlight tours, and Trudou letting oil companies poison first nations water supplies, but I don't see where Canada comes into opposing support for America.
For many of us an accurate line would be "I don't buy American products anymore." Yes we used to spend money on American products and still have them. But many of us are now going without if we can't find a Canadian version (or any other country) that makes the product we want. After Trump's repulsive tantrum at Davos, it will be a long time until I willingly spend money that benefits the US.
I've come to accept that US Americans do this, that America can be a synonym for USA, but in this context they really should have sprung for two more letters... 🤣
(I'll forgive them fo the car though, looks old enough to not include in the statement)
60 Comments
Upperhand@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 222d
Lol, that highlander is most likely built in Indiana.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca · 59 pts · 222d
I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark judging by the rust around the badge that this car was made before this person made the choice to boycott the US.
Upperhand@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 221d
Stand by your choice and sell, but it has nothing to do with that. It's identity politics. Also, there are plenty of toyotas made in Canada if that person was actually that true to it and not looking for clout.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 214d
Sit on a cactus
Voyajer@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 222d
Yup. all Highlanders in NA are made in Princeton, IN from 2009-now.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 222d
Built: Maybe
Designed: Maybe. Maybe somewhere else in the world
Corporate: Not US.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 221d
Driver is from Alberta, the short bus of Canada.
Mpatch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 218d
And still they manage to miss the waiting bus.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 38 pts · 222d
I'm American. I rarely buy American. Almost everything is Chinese, Japanese, European, or something else.
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 17 pts · 222d
Why buy from the US anyways? Anything quality is expensive as hell, and the rest is either trash consumer grade (read: shitty) products designed by a capitalist more than an engineer, or imported.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 221d
Something of quality is made in US or Canada?
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 2 pts · 221d
Lots of things. They're just 3-20x as expensive as something 80% as good.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 222d
We do have exports that people wanted prior. Bourbon, corn, guitars, etc. We have major brands, agricultural products, and other categories that are purchased abroad.
Take a look at the export list. Stuff is there.
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 0 pts · 222d
Oh, I didn't say we had no exports. I said other places make better stuff. (at least for anything that's not ridiculously expensive in order to pay proper American craftsmen a skilled job's wage)
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 222d
So the corn exports are... Worse?
Where else can you get Bourbon whisky?
I was trying to demonstrate that your point is sort of juvenile. American products being expensive? Sure. Are there things you can't get elsewhere? Yes. Is everything produced domestically probably worse? That one is just remarkably stupid.
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 2 pts · 222d
Like I said, shitty OR expensive. Learn to read before you take the asshole's position.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 222d
A bottle of four roses bourbon yellow label is neither shitty or expensive.
You sound like an angry 15 year old.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 222d
No, we don't want your GMO corn :p
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 7 pts · 222d
And that's just because of the manufacturer outsourcing.
kokesh@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 222d
Fuck USA
dhork@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 222d
niktemadur@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 222d
ZOOM IN ON THE MARITIMES!
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 222d
Currently trying to get my friends to leave messenger, text message groups do pretty much anything messenger does without putting money in that assholes pocket.
Fuck if it isn't an uphill battle though
My other alternative is discord just because they all have accounts there.
But they still won't let go of messenger.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 3 pts · 222d
You know you can just stop using it. I'm stuck with having a fb because of my job but I never answer messenger more quickly than a week later and I always include that I don't use messenger in my response. You don't have to control your friends' actions.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 222d
Oh I plan on not using it, just trying to get the best alternatives before I jump off the ship
regdog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
I don't want to rain on your parade, but Discord is just another closed system that you will not be able to escape when (not "if") it turns into shit.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 221d
I know, but at least the transition is easier, given a lot of my contacts have accounts already. I already gave up on trying to get people on decentralized platforms.
Just the lesser of the evils right now
fireweed@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 222d
Surprised no one has commented on the juxtaposition with the Alberta license plate yet
ripcord@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 222d
What about it?
fireweed@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 222d
I'm not Canadian, but my understanding is Alberta is basically the Texas of Canada. Maybe even worse, more like the Wyoming or Idaho of Canada.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 222d
The rural areas sure. Edmonton and Calgary are not. They’re the stronghold for the provincial NDP. Wasn’t too long ago that Alberta had an NDP government on the strength of their support in those two cities.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 222d
Not even in the rural areas really. We have our idiots true, but even bull riders around these parts are not all super out of touch.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 221d
Shhhh...last federal election 92% of Alberta seats were PC.
Two university ridings won't balance out Berta boneheads.
squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi · 5 pts · 222d
So they import everything from overseas!?
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 222d
Many things already are, but it's not an environmental choice but a boycott so it's not about being overseas or not anyways. Why support a country that's actively hostile to you, ya know?
In practical terms it tends to be buying the strawberries from Mexico instead of California for example. The grocery stores literally have little maple leaf symbols on the prices to help, and little tariff symbols as well. Plus people aren't traveling to the US as that's a way of not "buying" from there too, often opting to travel within that country or overseas.
squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi · -16 pts · 222d
True, but Mexico is in North America, Canada is in North America...
NotSteve_@piefed.ca · 14 pts · 222d
I get your point and I find it annoying that US Americans have ended up taking what should have been a more generic demonym for the Americas too but it is generally the accepted term for those living to our immediate south (at least in English-speaking Canada)
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 222d
America is in North America, too!
Cptn_Slow@lemmy.world · -31 pts · 222d
Right? Like "Screw America!" And then promptly pull your pants down and bend over for China.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca · 24 pts · 222d
Are you serious? Even ignoring the fact that doing deals with China is not "pulling our pants down and bending over", the fact is we, as a non-superpower, need to sometimes choose the lesser of two evils and only one of the two countries is repeatedly insulting and threatening our sovereignty. Your reduction of our work on diversifying our economy in the face of (active) economic and (potential) military invasion by the USA is so maddening
edit: I assume you're American?
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 222d
One of these countries isn't arresting indigenous people for the crime of being insufficiently white.
PoastRotato@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 222d
Persecution of Uyghurs in China
Both countries can be bad at the same time.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · -7 pts · 222d
I literally just came from Xinjiang. Yeah no I'll trust my own eyes and the Uhigurs I'm still in contact with over some article sourcing people who literally have never been there.
This is some "Portland is a warzone"-level shit.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 222d
Yeah no I'll trust some rando on social media over actually seeing multiple news threads from several trusted sources and has been widely known globally for the last few decades.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · -7 pts · 222d
Trusted sources that promoted the same lies that got us into Iraq and Afghanistan.
As far as known globally, you mean known to America and its vassals. Muslim countries have sent delegations to investigate Xinjiang.
But I'm sure the guys who've been bombing muslim countries for 50+ years should be trusted to give a shit about the human rights of Muslims.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 222d
That link doesn’t talk about them investigating more like investing.
DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 222d
No, they arrest or kill millions of them for being insufficiently Chinese, or millions more for being insufficiently Communist
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · -7 pts · 222d
Regarding your first link, lmao.
I am in China right now, I spent a couple months in Xinjiang and left earlier this week
Literally anyone can go there, there's no travel restrictions. Theres also a significant Uhigur population in Kazakhstan, whom anybody can talk to.
Cptn_Slow@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 222d
Yeah, go ahead and do a Google search of Canada's treatment of indigenous people. I'll wait.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 222d
I like how everyone in this thread is pretending that there are good guys somewhere when in the entire history of humanity there have never been good guys.
ripcord@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 222d
Of course there have been good guys.
Has everyone in a given nation always done only good things for its entire history? Of course not.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 222d
Did you mean to respond to someone else? I'm vaguely aware of the schools, starlight tours, and Trudou letting oil companies poison first nations water supplies, but I don't see where Canada comes into opposing support for America.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 222d
ooooh you really walked into that one
JackBinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 221d
He's an apologist who doesn't think China is and has been genociding non-Han Chinese for decades.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 221d
LOL. We let in 49,000 cars on annual sales of 1.9M.
Maybe we should bend over for pedophiles?
robocall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 222d
username checks out
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 222d
The Toyota Highlander is assembled in the US no?
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 222d
For many of us an accurate line would be "I don't buy American products anymore." Yes we used to spend money on American products and still have them. But many of us are now going without if we can't find a Canadian version (or any other country) that makes the product we want. After Trump's repulsive tantrum at Davos, it will be a long time until I willingly spend money that benefits the US.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 221d
Indiana, from parts made in US, Mexico and Canada.
joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 222d
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · -1 pts · 222d
I've come to accept that US Americans do this, that America can be a synonym for USA, but in this context they really should have sprung for two more letters... 🤣
(I'll forgive them fo the car though, looks old enough to not include in the statement)