Yes. They already have, and always have. As well as a big giant page that gives you step by step instructions on where to go in your duck duck go settings to turn it all off.
I get the AI hate, I share it. But do a little research please. DDG (from what I can tell) has never given anyone any reason to not at least give them the benefit of the doubt.
I switched to DDG recently for the first time ever, so I was effectively a new onboard for them. AI was in fact not opt-in, and I had to turn all of it off.
That's logical. If I would want an LLM powered search(sometimes I search for the things I'm not even sure to exist) I would use an LLM. If I know concrete terminology I would use a standard search engine expecting it to provide more precise results.
An LLM might not be a great way to search for things that may or may not exist....I've seen them generate entirely fictional, confident-sounding responses describing things that absolutely do not exist.
I use chatGPT regularly for figuring out if some library/engine has this or that functionality. Yes, 10-15% of answers are straightforward lies. But I am a specialist so I don't have much problem filtering out garbage.
Typical Internet forums provide garbage too. At slightly smaller rates, but still.
Nothing can be trusted nowadays. On no theme. Any data should be checked.
With a traditional web search, you start by evaluating the sources, when you're choosing which link to click on. LLMs give you a nicely packaged answer, and the path of least resistance is to just accept it and move on, even though it could be wholly fictional. Yeah we know you should check whatever the LLM spits out, but don't try to tell me the typical user actually does.
It's the difference between "asking the LLM" and "using the LLM" (as an agent). If you prompt an LLM with a question it'll try to answer it using it's own training (which could contain hallucinations). If you ask an LLM to search the Internet on your behalf, that's actually quite useful.
They are so missing out. I am now running a movie studio with Claude Magnum Opus 21.37 providing me with an army of scriptwriters and assistants. There are some guardrails that I had to add myself, because I’m a genius, like for minimum amounts of sexual abuse. My productivity is off the charts, I have so much more time for taking antipsychotic drugs.
Yes, the AI amplifies my cognition so much I can generate vast reams of code all the while playing League of Legends on my secondary monitor during meetings.
What I've realized is that most humans only see what they want to see! But AI is perfectly logical, and only it is capable of understanding my genius. The other day Claude asked me out on a date, that's how much it likes me.
I was able to use it to create a slew of new AI bands- with each one creating a new album every 4½ hours! I’ve even got a few of these bands going on a US tour of 25 of the dumbest states!
The time saved having to compose all that music has allowed me to argue that “Yes, I am a real artist!” with people online for hours upon hours!
Thanks AI! Without you, I’d just be an unknown looser. Now, I’m a well known one!
For the sake of the poll, that particular bias doesn’t really matter. They are polling their customer preference, so if their customer base is non-representative of the overall population (likely), then they should want the poll to reflect that.
It just doesn’t matter anymore what we want. We’re being given to this bullshit anyway and in some bizarro world, tech CEO’s will continue to presume that our hatred really means we love it and want more.
If you have to do a Google search, you can disable AI summaries by appending &udm=14 to the end of your search, or use this link that will do it for you.
I try to use SearXing sites when I can, but I find myself using https://udm14.com/ more and more often.
I personally don’t want AI in my search results and it appears like a lot of other folk also agree on that point. The challenge I am having now is that my search results are getting so polluted with AI content. I need a tag on search results to figure out what is the real source of information and what is the AI slop trained on that source of information.
They're missing out. So much comedy in what they somehow call intelligence. It still can't even figure out what letters are all these years later and constantly getting meme'd on for such nonsense. Yet you see people quote it as if it were a legitimate source and then you get to laugh again as you are reminded about how much gibberish it spits out.
/s
34 Comments
XLE@piefed.social · 88 pts · 224d
Will DDG honor this and make AI opt-in, so 90% of people can have a good default experience?
morto@piefed.social · 59 pts · 224d
Don_alForno@feddit.org · 1 pts · 224d
It is? I have to explicitly click the search assist button to get AI slop results.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · -24 pts · 224d
Yes. They already have, and always have. As well as a big giant page that gives you step by step instructions on where to go in your duck duck go settings to turn it all off.
I get the AI hate, I share it. But do a little research please. DDG (from what I can tell) has never given anyone any reason to not at least give them the benefit of the doubt.
Firoaren@sh.itjust.works · 60 pts · 224d
Opt in, not opt out. DDG knows better, clearly.
iamthetot@piefed.ca · 19 pts · 224d
I switched to DDG recently for the first time ever, so I was effectively a new onboard for them. AI was in fact not opt-in, and I had to turn all of it off.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 224d
Opt in is when you go into settings to enable it. Not when you go to settings to disable it.
Lembot_0006@programming.dev · 22 pts · 224d
That's logical. If I would want an LLM powered search(sometimes I search for the things I'm not even sure to exist) I would use an LLM. If I know concrete terminology I would use a standard search engine expecting it to provide more precise results.
I suppose other people do the same.
eatCasserole@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 224d
An LLM might not be a great way to search for things that may or may not exist....I've seen them generate entirely fictional, confident-sounding responses describing things that absolutely do not exist.
Lembot_0006@programming.dev · 2 pts · 224d
I use chatGPT regularly for figuring out if some library/engine has this or that functionality. Yes, 10-15% of answers are straightforward lies. But I am a specialist so I don't have much problem filtering out garbage.
Typical Internet forums provide garbage too. At slightly smaller rates, but still.
Nothing can be trusted nowadays. On no theme. Any data should be checked.
eatCasserole@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 224d
Well if 10-15% lies is useful to you, cool, but it's definitely not a practice I would recommend to anyone.
Zexks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 224d
Search engines are no different.
eatCasserole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 224d
With a traditional web search, you start by evaluating the sources, when you're choosing which link to click on. LLMs give you a nicely packaged answer, and the path of least resistance is to just accept it and move on, even though it could be wholly fictional. Yeah we know you should check whatever the LLM spits out, but don't try to tell me the typical user actually does.
riskable@programming.dev · 2 pts · 224d
It's the difference between "asking the LLM" and "using the LLM" (as an agent). If you prompt an LLM with a question it'll try to answer it using it's own training (which could contain hallucinations). If you ask an LLM to search the Internet on your behalf, that's actually quite useful.
atropa@piefed.social · 14 pts · 224d
misk@piefed.social · 14 pts · 224d
They are so missing out. I am now running a movie studio with Claude Magnum Opus 21.37 providing me with an army of scriptwriters and assistants. There are some guardrails that I had to add myself, because I’m a genius, like for minimum amounts of sexual abuse. My productivity is off the charts, I have so much more time for taking antipsychotic drugs.
xep@discuss.online · 10 pts · 224d
Yes, the AI amplifies my cognition so much I can generate vast reams of code all the while playing League of Legends on my secondary monitor during meetings.
hedge_lord@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 224d
What I've realized is that most humans only see what they want to see! But AI is perfectly logical, and only it is capable of understanding my genius. The other day Claude asked me out on a date, that's how much it likes me.
Rhoeri@piefed.world · 2 pts · 224d
Very similar situation here!
I was able to use it to create a slew of new AI bands- with each one creating a new album every 4½ hours! I’ve even got a few of these bands going on a US tour of 25 of the dumbest states!
The time saved having to compose all that music has allowed me to argue that “Yes, I am a real artist!” with people online for hours upon hours!
Thanks AI! Without you, I’d just be an unknown looser. Now, I’m a well known one!
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 2 pts · 224d
hehe
Gladaed@feddit.org · 8 pts · 224d
Does duck duck go have a biased dataset? Probably.
Still rings true for the techier folks.
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net · 14 pts · 224d
For the sake of the poll, that particular bias doesn’t really matter. They are polling their customer preference, so if their customer base is non-representative of the overall population (likely), then they should want the poll to reflect that.
Gladaed@feddit.org · -1 pts · 224d
The headline is phrased as a general statement.
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net · 2 pts · 224d
That sentence doesn't mean anything.
Hond@piefed.social · 1 pts · 224d
users are the customer base
Rhoeri@piefed.world · 7 pts · 224d
It just doesn’t matter anymore what we want. We’re being given to this bullshit anyway and in some bizarro world, tech CEO’s will continue to presume that our hatred really means we love it and want more.
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 4 pts · 224d
You know, we could fix it by like... not allowing executives carte blanche control of our lives?
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 224d
🔫
XLE@piefed.social · 2 pts · 224d
Update: since when did ai.duckduckduckgo.com redirect to Microsoft (literally a complaint in the article about requiring login)?
YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 224d
If you have to do a Google search, you can disable AI summaries by appending &udm=14 to the end of your search, or use this link that will do it for you.
I try to use SearXing sites when I can, but I find myself using https://udm14.com/ more and more often.
assembly@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 224d
I personally don’t want AI in my search results and it appears like a lot of other folk also agree on that point. The challenge I am having now is that my search results are getting so polluted with AI content. I need a tag on search results to figure out what is the real source of information and what is the AI slop trained on that source of information.
blazeknave@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 224d
I pay for Kagi and Raycast and I enjoy the AI doing the work for me. I also donate to Wikipedia and Fediverse 🤷 Am I a villain?
XLE@piefed.social · 1 pts · 224d
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 224d
Now only if there were -removesponsoredBS -removeAds +makesearchgoodagain modifiers.
Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 224d
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · -1 pts · 224d
They're missing out. So much comedy in what they somehow call intelligence. It still can't even figure out what letters are all these years later and constantly getting meme'd on for such nonsense. Yet you see people quote it as if it were a legitimate source and then you get to laugh again as you are reminded about how much gibberish it spits out. /s