President Donald Trump is suing the Internal Revenue Service and the Treasury Department, and is seeking $10 billion in damages.
Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, and the Trump Organization sued the IRS and the U.S. Treasury Department in federal court in Miami on Thursday, following the leak of their tax returns by a former IRS employee in 2019 and 2020.
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Redditsux@lemmy.world · 177 pts · 232d
LOL OMG broad day light THEFT of US treasury.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com · 52 pts · 232d
You mean to suggest Scott Bessent and Pam Bondi won't treat this lawsuit fairly and impartially? How dare you!
Madison420@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 231d
It's not a criminal complaint, it's civil. The doj has fuck all to do with civil matters.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com · 10 pts · 231d
The DOJ defends civil litigation against the federal government as well.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 231d
The oig hires outside for politically involved cases. The doj has to stay at a distance and that doesn't negate the obligation to provide proof of actual damages.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 231d
That sounds like a very reasonable custom and norm for an independent, non-conflicted DOJ. (Sorry, deadpan is hard online.)
Madison420@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 231d
It's not custom it's legal precedent, if they ignore it that just means eventually he's up for clawback with interest and any profit.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 231d
Thanks, this is not a sealion question: do you have something to further read about this or support this? I'd like to understand how the DOJ is actually bound. The DOJ has been run by Bondi as Trump's private law firm, regardless of their mandate, and I expect that to continue.
My initial suspicion is that anything short of a Supreme Court ruling (and possibly not even that) will force compliance by the DOJ, but after-the-fact compliance may be meaningless as well. It'd be quite typical for Trump/Bondi to fully "defend" and settle the case with taxpayer money already in Trump's account before any challenges complete, followed by appeals, etc.
SparkyBauer44@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 231d
Madison420@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 231d
What is that supposed to mean, use your words.
SparkyBauer44@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 226d
That's the DOJ official documents of proof my man. See, it's all in your head. This administration is draining the swamp! /s
zd9@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 232d
We'll see what happens...
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 130 pts · 232d
You mean the tax returns he was supposed to voluntarily release, himself?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 108 pts · 232d
All the presidents combined for the last century have only amassed $40 million in wealth while in office despite the whining and complaining by the right about the Clintons or Obama. All of them, combined, a century’s worth…$40 million
Trump has stuffed his pockets with $3 billion in since he got elected. In one year.
KneeTitts@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 231d
What a disgusting billionaire worshiping sick country the US has become, just sickening
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 71 pts · 232d
What a sniveling cunt.
Talaraine@fedia.io · 17 pts · 232d
Definition of chode
fuzz00713@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 232d
They will end up settling out of court for half that and he'll laugh all the way to the bank. Another grift executed.
PlantJam@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 232d
A 0.1% settlement is still $10m.
hector@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 232d
More than all the tax he paid since 2016.
huppakee@piefed.social · 3 pts · 231d
That's be true even if he 'only' got $10K.
diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 231d
10 mil ain’t shit to him
PlantJam@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 231d
Correct, but it is "never work another day" money to billions of people.
Tilgare@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 231d
He just accepted a gold bar and Rolex in exchange for removing tariffs on Switzerland. Even if that were a 1 kilo gold bar, that's $160,000. He got all his tech goons to contribute $1M to his inauguration.
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 232d
I'll never forgive the assholes that voted this piece of shit into office again. I feel dumber every time I read this childish bullshit, and sad for humanity seeing the homuculi that applaud stupidity.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 232d
You shouldn't. These are the new Nazis. Sociopaths completely without respect for anything.
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 232d
I am so sick and tired of this fucking LEECH. Everything about that thing is horrid. Every little thing. Zero redeeming qualities. He is a disgusting parasite.
The world would be better place...
hector@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 232d
His stupidity, lack of historical knowledge, and his vainglory that has led him to surround himself with Yes Men and the like are all redeeming qualities in a sense because they stop him from achieving his callous agenda as much. But no he does not have any traditional virtue.
baka@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 43 pts · 232d
He's stealing our money
OUR. FUCKING. MONEY.
obligatory: fuck izrael too
Soup@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 231d
Yea but at least some poor person isn’t getting your hard-earned dollar to get treatment for something for free. /s
fizzle@quokk.au · 43 pts · 232d
I feel the same about all of these headlines.
No matter how conservative you are, how can you support this? Its just nuts.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 231d
Based on what little I know of this, myself only being versed in Bird Law, doesn't the IRS enjoy sovereign immunity as a governmental entity? They can just declare that they do not agree to being sued.
Cort@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 231d
Yeah, but they're an executive agency, so Trump can just fire anyone who says no, until they get to someone who will agree to let the lawsuit proceed.
stoly@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 231d
Their counsel has to provide a vigorous defense of the IRS so they can't walk into court and agree with Trump.
Cort@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 231d
Are any of their remaining staff capable of providing a vigorous defense?
stoly@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 231d
That’s a point
Cort@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 231d
I'd hope any judge hearing the case under such circumstances would appoint someone capable of providing a vigorous defense if the executive (branch) was unwilling or unable to.
Biffsbraincell@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 231d
We know Bessant isn't going to put up much of a fight.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 231d
Don't try to make sense, you'll scare them!
fishos@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 231d
No. You can sue the IRS for all kinds of reasons related to your taxes. You're expected to go through administrative channels first, but you absolutely can sue the IRS.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7433
sharkaccident@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
But the defendant can't issue a counter suit. How is that possible. I hate this timeline. He will get away with it too watch...
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 231d
He’s suing all of us. We are the government.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 35 pts · 231d
Trump: I would like to sue the Office of the President of the USA for $10 billion dollars.
Taxpayers: But, you are the President.
Trump: Oh great, I’ll settle with myself for $5 billion dollars. Send a check.
Taxpayers:
FatVegan@leminal.space · 23 pts · 231d
Americans: what a brilliant man.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 231d
Art of the deal.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 231d
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 231d
Say what you want, he got himself to become a president. Obviously he did something right.
That something being lying, cheating, frauding, being stupidly lucky as well as removed which somehow is that combo that makes giant idiots rise to the top...
mitkase@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
Technically, he barely did shit other than be his usual asshole moronic self. The evil fuckers (Thiel and co.) in the shadows got him elected.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
Hillary: "Donald, my close personal friend and Epstein associate, would you mind running in the Republican primary and sabotaging their campaign so I can be president?"
Trump: "Absolutely. Would love it. Really looking forward to you winning. Unless you don't! Haha. But seriously, good luck out there. Can't wait to receive a bunch of kickbacks under your administration."
2016 was literally "What if The Producers ran for President"?
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 32 pts · 232d
It's not only for $10b because his lawyer 'intepreted' "a hundred hundred gazillion bigly dollars" at an actual amount rather than trying to explain how numbers work.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 31 pts · 232d
I can’t believe it took this long for someone to realize they can just openly plunder and get away with it. Or that we sit around and let it happen.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 10 pts · 232d
Previously they didn't have half of Congress and the Supreme Court willing to rubber stamp everything up to and including outright treason.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 232d
How can he show damages when all the other presidents released theirs?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 18 pts · 232d
That's the best part: he doesn't have to. He can just order IRS to settle.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 231d
No he can't. The IRS legal team isn't an executive function.
Catma@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 231d
Oh you sweet summer child
Madison420@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 231d
Oh you infantilizing winter moron. Make an actual argument not a veiled insult.
hector@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 231d
Yhe irs' leadership is appointed by prez snd can be fired at will. They can order the legal team, and or fimd ways to get them out.
I remimd you he sued parts of the federal government already and they settled with him, what did he Sue again I can't recall at the moment. I think at least two lawsuits one with the FBI was it?
Madison420@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 231d
The oig isn't and the oig is who would appoint outside counsel since everyone involved in conflicted.
He didn't, and they didn't. He certainly threatened to I'll give you that.
hector@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 231d
I presume you are referring to the office of Inspector general, and they can be fired by the president he is fired several already last year.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 6 pts · 231d
Another good news!
Madison420@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 231d
Doesn't matter commissioners do not decide settlements.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 2 pts · 231d
Who hires the IRS lawyers that do decide them?
Madison420@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 231d
The IRS oig.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 0 pts · 231d
OMG! The good news just keeps coming and coming
"On September 24, 2025, federal judge Ana C. Reyes ruled that the administration unlawfully fired 17 inspectors general, but refused to reinstate them, noting that Trump could simply re-fire them after providing the congressionally mandated 30 days' notice."
BanMe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
hahahahahahahaha
Madison420@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 231d
That's not an argument.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 231d
Madison420@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 231d
Dumb people love memes, look at this administration for example.
lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 232d
Eat my ass you irredeemable cunt
theblurstoftimes@leminal.space · 19 pts · 232d
He better be careful. Not even the Joker said he would go against the IRS in Batman.
TheFogan@programming.dev · 12 pts · 232d
That's because the joker never was in charge of the federal government.
That being said, I think joker as president would be a nice step up... he's chaotic as hell, but he hates indiscriminately, he explicitly will not work with nazi's (If I recall a crossover had him meet red skull, who he opposed the second he realized he was a real nazi).
bstix@feddit.dk · 15 pts · 232d
What a doofus. He could've asked for 10 billion and fifty dollars. Now he's going to be 50$ short some day.
tangonov@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 231d
Watch the fucking system eat itself alive
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 231d
There've got to be laws against that, right?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 231d
SCOTUS: "There are not"
GladiusB@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 231d
zd9@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 232d
"You see, I'm demanding maybe the most anyone has ever demanded. They come up to me and tell me: sir, no one has ever demanded this much. I sued them for eleventyseven zillion dollars"
hector@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 232d
I actually canmot rule out the possibility that that is a real quote.
borkborkbork@piefed.social · 9 pts · 232d
you gotta use the translator:
“The IRS wrongly allowed a rogue, politically-motivated employee to leak private and confidential information about President Trump, his family, and the Trump Organization to the New York Times, ProPublica and other left-wing news outlets, which was then illegally released to millions of people,” a Trump spokesperson said in a statement.
“The IRS employee exposed factual, damning information about President Trump, his family, and the Trump Organization to the New York Times, ProPublica and other left-wing news outlets, which was then obviously released to millions of people,” a rational person should take from that statement.
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 232d
Fuck this guy
KneeTitts@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
Lets say he sues all these government agencies and wins, he is just stuffing his own pockets with YOUR TAX DOLLARS
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
No shit
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 231d
What damages? How about we dig into all the fraud on avoiding paying taxes on all that money daddy gave him?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 231d
Nitpick: if it's criminal then it's tax evasion, not tax avoidance.
MrShankles@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 231d
More distraction from his kiddie diddlying/trafficking/protecting his handlers, I see. $10 BILLION LAW SUIT vs the IRS!!! How un-astonishingly absurd and "dead cat on table" of him
Let's sue him ourselves, for... everything‽, in the amount of $1 Trillion dollars! muwhahahahahaaa! That should make him
shit his pantsback down a littleOr just continue letting him do whatever he wants, because he's captured the "checks and balances" and proven the lack of consequences. That bitch is fucked, it's the puppet-handlers that need to walk the line (if they wanna keep the charade up). And they don't give a fuck, cause they've got the perfect patsy
He can threaten everything once again, but good luck taking that grift to the grave. Salting the earth motherfuckers won't have a habitable Mars to run to, cause they're too busy burning the shit behind them
Enjoy the yachts while you can! I'll enjoy my humanity, meanwhile
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 231d
No. I think he's just looting the place.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 230d
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 231d
SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org · 6 pts · 230d
That’s about 66-67 dollars per tax payer. Like I have money to give this fuck nugget.
Bwaz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 230d
Because having his tax docs made public caused the Melania movie to megaflop?
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 231d
He hates that we wont stop talking about him being a pedophile and purposely hiding all the epstien files as they were business partners for years for human trafficking.
Anything to distract away from him getting held accountable.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 231d
The shittiest vampire
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 230d
medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 232d
So far, everything he's done is reversible.
Stealing all our money? Take it back. Liquidate that asshole (or his possessions);
Executive orders? Executive order to nullify/remove/cancel them;
Beefing up ICE? Reduce it
Except the pedophilia of course. That can't be undone, but nothing the legal system can't handle. There are so many others though, someone should invent the Electric Bench.
All we have to do is get someone with half a brain in that office. This is all fixable. But the sooner, the better.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 232d
The dead people would also disagree if they could.
The allies of america would disagree.
Soup@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 231d
What are you talking about? People are dead, not just from ICE but the danage he’s done to healthcare and people’s ability to care for themselves has more than definitely led to more death and suffering. Trade deals have been fucked completely up and even allies who have done so much to pretend that the US isn’t a volatile, evil place are finally admitting it. The Democrats have been given permission, again, to move further right. The Whitehouse, as boring a building as it is, currently has a massive hole in the side and it garden was paved over. Billions of dollars have been wasted, thrown straight in the fire.
No, it’s time you admit that you can’t just vote the current evil out of office and have everything be fine. Even a win against the right will only be the first step in a very long fight to get on track.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 231d
Not even true. America's reputation is ruined and well it is not necessary not reversible it well take a long time. And if the world goes off of USD then that is not reversible.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 231d
The precedents set in the courts are done. The trading relationships are over. It takes a long time to establish trade and apparently very little time to destroy it. The dollar is done for. The pollution can't be unpolluted from EPA policy rollbacks. You could go on and on.
You can mitigate some of the damage, but that stuff isn't reversible.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 231d
if its just money I think they should acquiesce, go to court pleading guilty and give all the tax money to Trump.
The US is then left in the position of keeping Trump or the economy and I can't imagine the head of every US banking institution and every company from Microsoft down to my local gardener being unable to make money being behind that.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 230d
What if I just him measure my vagina with his finger?
I need a vagina! Oh trans is illegal! Now what?