Someone in the article asked the real question. How are we supposed to make Margaritas? The MinuteMaid frozen mixers are the only ones that don't use shelf stabilizers and taste decent.
A lot of juice is at least partially from concentrate for exactly that reason anyway. Such a waste to package the end product rather than the middle one that already exists..
Depends. How much energy is used evaporating the water to make it concentrated in the first place? And how much energy is used with a frozen supply chain, instead of just a merely cold supply chain?
I misread your comment as being focused on the energy considerations.
From this study, summarized here, producing and distributing "not from concentrate" juice uses less energy than concentrating and freezing, though (and lower CO2 emissions attributable to the process), because concentrating the juice takes more energy than shipping the whole thing. At least assuming the oranges are grown in Florida and sold in the United States.
That's why I asked, because I knew that the U.S. relies more on imported citrus as the orange groves in Florida and California tend to get redeveloped into other real estate. And I'm wondering whether that analysis holds for oranges from Brazil or wherever.
Edit: am I missing something? I don’t see any discussion of the difference in energy costs for shipping concentrates vs juices, just for production of concentrates vs juices?
Actually I don't see it in the PDF, either, although the Stanford Magazine article quantifies it in a way that suggests it was reported somewhere:
Once processed, the juices have to be transported to the markets. The concentrated forms take less energy because of their compact size and substantially lower weight. Nevertheless, even the energy-intensive distribution of Not From Concentrate orange juice only amounts for 22 percent of the juice’s total carbon dioxide emission. Of course, the emissions in this step greatly depend on distance from processing plants (mainly Florida, and also California), but in most cases, this consideration is not important enough to shift the balance.
The study report itself calls itself a preliminary findings, and the reporting around it was that they'd publish full findings at some point later.
Either way, that's why I asked. I genuinely don't know the answer or whether/when the lines would cross.
Oh man, I don't think I've ran into anyone else that knew what bourbon slush is. I had a friend growing up and it was a staple of their big family gatherings. I actually had no idea how they made it until now, but I would always get a couple of tubs to take home with me. Highlight of the year during my college years.
It's also popular here in Wisconsin, but our version typically uses brandy. I made a bunch for my wedding. I hate to think that would be the last time!
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JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 30 pts · 214d
Someone in the article asked the real question. How are we supposed to make Margaritas? The MinuteMaid frozen mixers are the only ones that don't use shelf stabilizers and taste decent.
LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 214d
1 shot orange liquor (I like patron citronage)
2 shot tequila
Juice 1/2 lime
1-2 shots simple syrup (1 to 1 sugar and water)
Shake vigorously with ice, strain and enjoy!
:3
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 214d
That works for a single servings, not so much for party pitchers.
dmention7@midwest.social · 2 pts · 213d
What in there cannot be easily scaled up tho? Aside from the liquor its just lime juice and sugar!
LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 214d
Kinda true, I mean depending on how many, I’ve made maybe… 4 at once. But yeah if you need like 10+…. I hope you have a big shaker lmao.
I guess there is always the store brand frozen concentrated unless that’s going away too…
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 213d
Margaritas are really fucking easy to make. And fresh lime tastes better anyway.
2 oz (60 ml) Tequila Blanco
0.5 oz (15 ml) Cointreau or Grand Marnier or some other orange liqueur
1 oz (30 ml) lime juice 0.5 oz (15 ml) Agave syrup
Shake in a shaker or blend in a blender with ice.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 213d
I've never used or seen a bar or restaurant use anything other than the Jose Cuervo mix.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 214d
CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social · 7 pts · 214d
A lot of juice is at least partially from concentrate for exactly that reason anyway. Such a waste to package the end product rather than the middle one that already exists..
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 213d
Depends. How much energy is used evaporating the water to make it concentrated in the first place? And how much energy is used with a frozen supply chain, instead of just a merely cold supply chain?
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 213d
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 213d
I misread your comment as being focused on the energy considerations.
From this study, summarized here, producing and distributing "not from concentrate" juice uses less energy than concentrating and freezing, though (and lower CO2 emissions attributable to the process), because concentrating the juice takes more energy than shipping the whole thing. At least assuming the oranges are grown in Florida and sold in the United States.
That's why I asked, because I knew that the U.S. relies more on imported citrus as the orange groves in Florida and California tend to get redeveloped into other real estate. And I'm wondering whether that analysis holds for oranges from Brazil or wherever.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 213d
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 213d
Actually I don't see it in the PDF, either, although the Stanford Magazine article quantifies it in a way that suggests it was reported somewhere:
The study report itself calls itself a preliminary findings, and the reporting around it was that they'd publish full findings at some point later.
Either way, that's why I asked. I genuinely don't know the answer or whether/when the lines would cross.
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 213d
where I live, it is cheaper to buy oranges in bulk from local farmers and squeeze them myself
one of the few perks of living in brazil
jpreston2005@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 214d
My Grandma makes this great drink called a bourbon slush, which is basically orange juice concentrate plus bourbon.
The younger generations are gonna miss out on so much
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 214d
Oh man, I don't think I've ran into anyone else that knew what bourbon slush is. I had a friend growing up and it was a staple of their big family gatherings. I actually had no idea how they made it until now, but I would always get a couple of tubs to take home with me. Highlight of the year during my college years.
jpreston2005@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 214d
Ha! noice. I would always eat it with a spoon
GiantChickDicks@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 214d
It's also popular here in Wisconsin, but our version typically uses brandy. I made a bunch for my wedding. I hate to think that would be the last time!
figjam@midwest.social · 1 pts · 213d
Make with the recipe already!
Ageroth@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 213d
50% bourbon, 50% slush
figjam@midwest.social · 1 pts · 213d
So one can of stuff = two drinks?
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 213d
that's like 12 ounces of bourbon...
Also, you don't really drink it... You definitely eat it with a spoon.
Also also, I definitely don't have a recipe for it... I literally just learned from the commenter above me that it was OJ concentrate and booze... lol
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 213d
classic@fedia.io · 10 pts · 214d
i forgot the stuff existed but at the same time it's surprising to see such a longstanding product go
4am@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 214d
They just don’t want Trading Places to be possible again
AngryRedHerring@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 213d
it’ll be pork bellies in the remake
AngryRedHerring@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 213d
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 214d
Fuck Florida.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 214d
Fuck Florida!
ToffeeIsForClosers@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 213d
One big reason I haven’t bought frozen concentrate juice in years: sugar.
But second biggest reason: price. Last I checked, the frozen stuff was nearly the same price as the unfrozen.
It used to be the much cheaper alternative. I’m not sure what happened.
nukeforyou@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 214d
I guess they dont want the WIC money
DCErik@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 213d
Well fuck. I'm highly reliant on the lemonade to mix with iced green tea.
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 2 pts · 214d
That’s to stop Antifa from making napalm
RaoulDuke85@piefed.social · 1 pts · 213d
I was thinking that.