This is pretty much what I said to my wife while scritching my dogs. First it'll just be expanded to missing kids and olds, because of course everyone wants to reunite families, but eventually it'll be something that "law enforcement" can request for whatever the hell they want, because after all they're the good guys keeping us safe!
Have been for a while. I think this is them getting ahead of more people realizing it. Puts it into the frame they want as opposed to ‘every step you take is being constantly tracked.’
I mean, I work with security cameras, and I’ve seen the tracking they can employ now. You can specify a color of shirt and color of pants to filter results with pretty solid accuracy and follow a specific person, or vehicle, across multiple cameras. I doubt it would take much to add filter by skin color.
My immediate response to everyone around me when that commercial aired was a loud, "fuck no" followed by a, "if any of you get one I will no longer visit".
Yes and a lot of people cheered. My wife was impressed until I told her what it was actually going to be used for. Like yeah, I'm sure they will also use it to help little girls find lost dogs, but its true purpose is to help law enforcement find brown people.
It's kind of telling, they can't get cameras on every street corner like the UK, so they just get homeowners (and some renters, I know they have a clip-on installation method) to supply the cameras AND pay a monthly fee for them! Like why is the government not funding this, since they'll be using it? Because so many people are just willing to pay.
Worth noting, Apple did it first, with the Find My network. If you say a device you own is missing, your iPhone sends a signal, anonymously, to the Find My network, which includes every connected Apple device. You can't opt yours out. So once an Apple device finds the "lost" device, it pings the device's last known location. It never identifies people on the network (or so they say). So if you have Apple stuff, you're part of this whether you want to be or not. And nothing malicious has ever been proven. But it is kinda sus, and it's kind of the model Ring seems to be going with.
"It's for the lost dogs. You want to help lost dogs don't you? You're not a monster, are you? Support our nationwide surveillance network or you hate lost dogs!"
Damn the west is really becoming brave new world huh. Although that said, I’m in Australia so I’m getting crumbs of the surveillance pizza everyone else is having.
Aren't those the guys who were found to be sharing everything with everyone and fought back hard against any kind of accountability or even acknowledgement?
Haha, thanks for exposing yourselves!
Their logic probably was like: how can we make our users trust us?
How about we tell them that we can view the footage of any ring camera for security purposes? They will love us! They will think we are the ones whom keep this earth safe! We will be their saviors !
I am so glad I never got into Ring. or Alexa, or voice assistants, but I have a roomba so I'm well aware that there's a minor surveillance appliance in my home too. I regularly go into my privacy settings and wipe my data on Roomba because of it, but unless you're putting your phone in a faraday cage/bag or storing it securely when you're not using it, you're being tracked too.
26 Comments
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 99 pts · 215d
Next comes 'brown person'.
wjrii@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 215d
This is pretty much what I said to my wife while scritching my dogs. First it'll just be expanded to missing kids and olds, because of course everyone wants to reunite families, but eventually it'll be something that "law enforcement" can request for whatever the hell they want, because after all they're the good guys keeping us safe!
bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 60 pts · 215d
Aren't they already given full access?
KnitWit@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 215d
Have been for a while. I think this is them getting ahead of more people realizing it. Puts it into the frame they want as opposed to ‘every step you take is being constantly tracked.’
OldGrayDog@lemmynsfw.com · 11 pts · 215d
Yes, ice has access to their data.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 215d
I mean, I work with security cameras, and I’ve seen the tracking they can employ now. You can specify a color of shirt and color of pants to filter results with pretty solid accuracy and follow a specific person, or vehicle, across multiple cameras. I doubt it would take much to add filter by skin color.
etchinghillside@reddthat.com · 71 pts · 215d
For puppies though!!! Do you hate puppies!?
oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 43 pts · 215d
I’m a cat so yes
meco03211@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 215d
Have you tried bopping them on the snoot?
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 215d
Cats or dogs? I've done both, and I prefer cats.
doug@lemmy.today · 53 pts · 215d
Iirc Ring cameras opt you into sharing your feed with the cops. Lotta reasons not to use ‘em.
Etterra@discuss.online · 38 pts · 215d
You won't catch me with the Privacy Violator 3000 attached to my home.
Jaycifer@piefed.social · 9 pts · 214d
Don’t worry, your neighbor across the street has one!
AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 215d
My immediate response to everyone around me when that commercial aired was a loud, "fuck no" followed by a, "if any of you get one I will no longer visit".
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 214d
I explained the surveillance state to my kids because of that ad
dmtalon@infosec.pub · 18 pts · 215d
I'll stick to Frigate... Wife and I were like "ya, no" when that aired
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 215d
Yep. If you have a Ring doorbell, replace it as quickly as possible. It will not only be used against you, but also against your neighbours.
Lawnman23@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 215d
My snowbird neighbors have a Ring doorbell on their house. Their front door aims straight at my driveway.
Fuckers are only there for 4 months out of the year yet I get to be under 24/7/365 surveillance from their doorbell.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 215d
Yes and a lot of people cheered. My wife was impressed until I told her what it was actually going to be used for. Like yeah, I'm sure they will also use it to help little girls find lost dogs, but its true purpose is to help law enforcement find brown people.
It's kind of telling, they can't get cameras on every street corner like the UK, so they just get homeowners (and some renters, I know they have a clip-on installation method) to supply the cameras AND pay a monthly fee for them! Like why is the government not funding this, since they'll be using it? Because so many people are just willing to pay.
Worth noting, Apple did it first, with the Find My network. If you say a device you own is missing, your iPhone sends a signal, anonymously, to the Find My network, which includes every connected Apple device. You can't opt yours out. So once an Apple device finds the "lost" device, it pings the device's last known location. It never identifies people on the network (or so they say). So if you have Apple stuff, you're part of this whether you want to be or not. And nothing malicious has ever been proven. But it is kinda sus, and it's kind of the model Ring seems to be going with.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 215d
"It's for the lost dogs. You want to help lost dogs don't you? You're not a monster, are you? Support our nationwide surveillance network or you hate lost dogs!"
biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 215d
Damn the west is really becoming brave new world huh. Although that said, I’m in Australia so I’m getting crumbs of the surveillance pizza everyone else is having.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 215d
My Eufy doorbell camera doesn't do any of this creepy shit
blueworld@piefed.world · 10 pts · 215d
True, but isn't as private as it should be.
rmuk@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 214d
Aren't those the guys who were found to be sharing everything with everyone and fought back hard against any kind of accountability or even acknowledgement?
JerryMerweather@piefed.social · 8 pts · 215d
Haha, thanks for exposing yourselves!
Their logic probably was like:
how can we make our users trust us?
How about we tell them that we can view the footage of any ring camera for security purposes? They will love us! They will think we are the ones whom keep this earth safe! We will be their saviors !
Very happy to see it backfire.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 215d
I am so glad I never got into Ring. or Alexa, or voice assistants, but I have a roomba so I'm well aware that there's a minor surveillance appliance in my home too. I regularly go into my privacy settings and wipe my data on Roomba because of it, but unless you're putting your phone in a faraday cage/bag or storing it securely when you're not using it, you're being tracked too.