The UK’s highest court has sided with the dairy industry in the long-running row
Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/oatly-milk-trademark-supreme-court-b2918307.html
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31 Comments
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch · 11 pts · 199d
People who impregnate (rape) and abuse cows for their milk are so insecure about their product that they need to ban competition from using their word. It’s really pathetic to see.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 199d
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 198d
no one is raping cows
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 198d
You do know how we get cows to produce milk right?
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 198d
yes
ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 198d
oh interesting! how is consent established?
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 199d
I take it you like eating meat?
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch · 4 pts · 199d
Fuck no
ergonomic_importer@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 199d
This has the same energy as credit unions being banned from using the word 'bank' as a descriptor.
definitemaybe@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 199d
The title of the article is misleading. The ruling was on the use of "Post Milk Generation" as a trade mark for use in their advertising and on their products. It has nothing to do with using "milk" to describe their drinks.
Sadly, every comment in this thread seems to be responding to the title at face value, not the actual court case.
I think it's a bit silly to prevent the trademark of that slogan, but I'm guessing that's because I'm missing something in the nuance of what a trade mark is, legally, in the UK?
Speculating here with an example of a trademark I know a little bit about: "Grill & Chill" was trademarked by DQ in several jurisdictions. (Aside: and they used that trademark to threaten the "Chill & Grill" restaurant to change its name, despite that use clearly predating DQ's use of the name by decades, but I digress...) I suppose that's allowed because "grilling" is directly related to the "trade" of DQ's services, but something ephemeral like "being a post milk person" is only indirectly related to their "trade" of making non-dairy beverages?
I suppose that makes sense. But still silly, imho.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 199d
You can't not link it to "milk" directly as that was part of the legal argument.
definitemaybe@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 199d
???
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
The Supreme Court decision was banning their use of the trademarked phrase. As far as I can tell, that's it. If you can find something in there that contradicts that, I'm all ears. But nothing in the linked article, aside from the terrible headline, says anything about a court ruling on the term "oat milk".
Unless I missed something, this has no far-reaching consequences and is mostly a nothing burger.
podian@piefed.social · 6 pts · 199d
I wonder if Westeros would have ruled against the name "Milk of the poppy." No? The UK officially has worse takes on law than The Seven Fucking Kingdoms.
Capitalism lol
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 199d
I'll have a latte with soy effluent, please.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 199d
Mmmm... Oat Juice 🤤
rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social · 3 pts · 199d
Just at "alternative" in tiny letters under each "milk" word.
reddig33@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 199d
Next up, no more hot dogs that don’t contain dog. No hamburgers that don’t contain ham.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 199d
It's only called Hamburger if it comes from the small town of Hamburg, Germany. Otherwise you must call it reformed organ patty. Ti's the law.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 199d
Man, I know it’s typical and passé to pass on things with complex names, but it may have been a poor move. Imagine if people stayed away from “dihydrogen monoxide” bottles because they sound like chemically treated poison.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 199d
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 199d
Almond milk has been called 'milk' since it was first written about in the 13th century.
There is no logical reason people need the distinction made clearer 800 years later.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 199d
How many writers described her skin as milky white? Burn the books!
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 199d
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 199d
What do you think changed?
From my perspective, people made this and used this in their own homes. It was in cookbooks. Being able to buy it in a store doesn't change the context of 800+ years of history.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 199d
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 199d
But in what way does that change the meaning of the established linguistics? That's the part I'm struggling to grasp. I understand the commercial milk producers wanting to muddy the waters from a competitive perspective, but why should you or I want almond milk, or other plant based milks, called something not 'milk'?
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 199d
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 199d
Hmm. I'm afraid this is where we're going to disagree. I don't agree milk needs a legal definition. I don't agree that consumers need protection from the word 'milk' being attached to other products, especially plant based milks that are generally clearly labeled and have hundreds or more years of context in our language.
Hell. There's 'human milk', 'goat milk', 'yak milk', etc.
If something needs to change, it should be that we need to now call it 'cow milk' and truly protect the consumer from confusion.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 199d
Unless you're drinking milk from the cow's tit, your milk is very mucg an industrial product to make it shelf stable and consistent. People have a totally wrong idea of what real milk feels or tastes like or what's involved in its production. At least oat milk is literally just filtered porridge you can make at home.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 199d
OmegaMouse@pawb.social · 14 pts · 199d
Peanut butter isn't butter, but it's called that because enough people agreed to call it so. It's a useful way to referring to something that has similar properties. Likewise, if I ask for a coffee I'll continue to ask for oat milk and not 'oat drink' as the latter sounds stupid.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 199d
OmegaMouse@pawb.social · 3 pts · 199d
I don't think there's any need to come up with a better name if we have one that works perfectly well already. Maybe I'd be ok with something else, provided it was cooler than 'spod' :p
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 199d
Oat Splooge.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 199d
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 0 pts · 199d
No, I want to overthrow cow milk and destroy that industry. So I call all milks "milk" except cow milk, which I call cow juice.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 199d
Perspectivist@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 199d
It can produce other fluids as well.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 199d
Perspectivist@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 199d
I was being facetious, but I actually get your point now - and yeah, I agree.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 199d
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 199d
eu
DancingBear@midwest.social · 1 pts · 198d