A misunderstanding on your part I thinks. I believe they are saying it was inappropriate to attempt to sanitize reality so they could release a "feel good puff piece".
Yes. But if they aired it, they aired it on purpose. Clips like that are rarely actually live. So they made a show of not continuing to give him airtime, but they gave him enough to get his message out - twice.
Careful with that quote, it's by Kevin Alfred Strom a Neo-Nazi from an 1993 essay in the national Vanguard, a white nationalist publication and it refers to the antisemitic trope of world Judaism.
I'm not criticizing you, just want to contextualize it because it could be misconstrued to be a antisemitic dog-whistle, especially in the context of the linked article.
You and I are in agreement; the user I responded to seemed to be implying otherwise.
Edit: I think it’s a bit strong to say it’s “a literal white supremacist talking point.” Your average boomer is going to mistakenly associate it with Voltaire. I think folks that are some level below terminally online have seen one of the many pieces pointing out its origin. Away from the author, it could stand on its own merits which is why “kids with cancer” is a funny response to it. In the US, at least, I haven’t seen a lot of discussion from the white supremacists who run the government on this quote which further makes me question if it’s a literal talking point. Perhaps you are aware of groups that are actively pushing it? If not, it’s a bit more reasonable to say what the first response in this thread said. Be careful.
Is it? I haven't studied philosophy (but I have studied math) - it seems to me that the Wikipedia article on Truism demands the statement to be true for it to be a truism. But it's not true though?
The way I see it, the statement can be construed as:
I'm not allowed to criticize X -> X rules over me
But, perhaps because "allowed" and "criticize" are subject to interpretation, there are plenty of groups you will be socially penalized for criticizing (see jokes about kids with cancer below the comment with the quote - I can’t figure out how to link to them). Many countries also protect minorities by making hate speech illegal, and yet those minorities are not ruling the country (though that's probably exactly what the quote was originally meant to imply). If anything, the truism would be the 'opposite' implication:
X rules over me -> I'm not allowed to criticize X
Yet even this isn't categorically true, like in democracies (which I guess brings in the interpretation of "rule", as well).
Haven't watched it but sounds like someone with strong convictions and an idea why things are the way they are. Hopefully eventually enough people recognize the fact that we need a functional society that allows the random person to feel comfortable. Cause if you get enough itchy people things get scratched.
I've been next to lads in the stalls where they're dropping bombs and on the phone on the same time. No shame. Barely stopped to grunt. Truly Gods among men.
Pretty much I don't care for random audio, I prefer text articles or comments to get the jist of things. I actually hate noise unless it's for entertainment or another person (well sometimes I don't care for that but polite society and all).
As unhinged as social media gets, this is pretty much why so many end up trusting it over traditional media. The internet broke the veil of commercial reporting/journalism - media in general. Broke the trust on accepting public personas and not being suspicious of them behind the scenes. Sell out reporters/journalist/artists/etc are like scabs to labor strikers
If the fediverse can focus on integrating content from from other fediverse sources extremely organically, the fediverse will win. I shouldn't have to leave Lemmy to watch this video.
Woah, I've been on Eternity for quite a while and have heard about Jerboa a bunch in comments! Finally downloaded it based on this comment and sure enough, this video was the first thing in my feed and it even auto played silently on the thumbnail! (Turning that off immediately though lol)
Ok, it sounded like you needed to manually open it outside. I agree it's not perfect and can be improved , but it still works without needing to click too often.
Are there some federated video sites? Most of the video results in duckduckgo are hosted by the tech giants, would be cool if there was some alternatives
Did you have to leave on .world? I didn't have to on my instance, but I don't know exactly how all that works.
In this case I'd say it's especially good for the sake of loops rather than lemmy. Loops is quite a small platform, and looking at it now, this post has 23 likes and 2 comments. But two posts I've seen on lemmy, totaling ~800 upvotes and ~45 comments.
Seems like pulling that info into loops would make it all feel much more lively, though I'm sure this isn't insight to the already busy loops creator!
She knows exactly what she is doing. She probably wouldn't even get into any trouble if she had let the guy go on for a bit since it is just a random, live interview. Doesn't matter, though, as boot-fellating, spittle-licking toadies will instantly and hungrily provide cover for the owner class. There will always be a critical mass of just about every demographic (even those you would not expect it from) who will be willing to sell out for that payday. If she doesn't try to silence or steamroll any even remotely anti-greed rhetoric she might be passed over for that next promotion.
Shout out to Washington Heights. I used to live at Fort Washington and 181st. I miss it.
They probably did, but decided to pick the side of the billionaire class/got told by their owners (the billionaire class) that they were to pick the side of the billionaire class in order to facilitate the continued exploitation of ordinary people
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Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works · 280 pts · 201d
Can't let people say the truth, it would inconvenience your masters.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 264 pts · 201d
The news reporter wanted a feel good puff piece regardless of how inappropriate it is. The interviewee wanted to report the actual news.
guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 53 pts · 201d
The company that owns that NBC affiliate wanted a feel good puff piece. I doubt she had a say in the matter.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 201d
Yeah, she's just following orders.
tatterdemalion@programming.dev · 6 pts · 200d
We all know how good "just following orders" and "just doing my job" turns out.
xSikes@feddit.online · 12 pts · 201d
But it wasn’t inappropriate…
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 201d
To the holding company it is.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 201d
🤌🏼
AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 201d
A misunderstanding on your part I thinks. I believe they are saying it was inappropriate to attempt to sanitize reality so they could release a "feel good puff piece".
duncan_bayne@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nBx-37c3c8
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 200d
Was it live? Probably not. That means they left it in on purpose.
GunValkyrie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 200d
Did you watch the clip?
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 200d
Yes. But if they aired it, they aired it on purpose. Clips like that are rarely actually live. So they made a show of not continuing to give him airtime, but they gave him enough to get his message out - twice.
GunValkyrie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 199d
It's says "Live" in the upper left hand corner.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 199d
They often lie about that. It's usually pseudo live, as in, recorded just a short while before.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 188 pts · 201d
Lupus@feddit.org · 93 pts · 201d
Careful with that quote, it's by Kevin Alfred Strom a Neo-Nazi from an 1993 essay in the national Vanguard, a white nationalist publication and it refers to the antisemitic trope of world Judaism.
I'm not criticizing you, just want to contextualize it because it could be misconstrued to be a antisemitic dog-whistle, especially in the context of the linked article.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 45 pts · 201d
It's an axiomatic truism. It's logic is self contained.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 14 pts · 201d
Logic self contained within nature's perfect geometry, a circle.
thesmokingman@programming.dev · 2 pts · 201d
Why does that preclude it from being in the zeitgeist?
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 201d
Because it's literally a white supremacist talking point?
thesmokingman@programming.dev · 3 pts · 201d
You and I are in agreement; the user I responded to seemed to be implying otherwise.
Edit: I think it’s a bit strong to say it’s “a literal white supremacist talking point.” Your average boomer is going to mistakenly associate it with Voltaire. I think folks that are some level below terminally online have seen one of the many pieces pointing out its origin. Away from the author, it could stand on its own merits which is why “kids with cancer” is a funny response to it. In the US, at least, I haven’t seen a lot of discussion from the white supremacists who run the government on this quote which further makes me question if it’s a literal talking point. Perhaps you are aware of groups that are actively pushing it? If not, it’s a bit more reasonable to say what the first response in this thread said. Be careful.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 201d
Not really. I'm just saying the quote isn't particularly insightful upon analysis, source notwithstanding.
SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 201d
Is it? I haven't studied philosophy (but I have studied math) - it seems to me that the Wikipedia article on Truism demands the statement to be true for it to be a truism. But it's not true though?
The way I see it, the statement can be construed as:
I'm not allowed to criticize X -> X rules over me
But, perhaps because "allowed" and "criticize" are subject to interpretation, there are plenty of groups you will be socially penalized for criticizing (see jokes about kids with cancer below the comment with the quote - I can’t figure out how to link to them). Many countries also protect minorities by making hate speech illegal, and yet those minorities are not ruling the country (though that's probably exactly what the quote was originally meant to imply). If anything, the truism would be the 'opposite' implication:
X rules over me -> I'm not allowed to criticize X
Yet even this isn't categorically true, like in democracies (which I guess brings in the interpretation of "rule", as well).
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 201d
Well, that just means he has experience ruling over people, and not allowing them to criticize him.
That means it's valid.
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 49 pts · 201d
I knew it was the kids with cancer all along!
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 201d
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 201d
Damn, Adolf. Is your name a unit of measurement for bad-but-good jokes. That one gets ya right in the Schmitler, ya know?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 201d
Yeah! Those little brats have had it too easy for too long!
Well not that long EACH, but you know 🤷
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 201d
Didn't a literal Nazi coin that phrase while talking about jews?
ulterno@programming.dev · 1 pts · 201d
Hey, just because the wrong guy spoke it first, doesn't make it wrong in itself.
alonsohmtz@feddit.uk · -1 pts · 201d
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 200d
Let me guess - you have a Final Solution for it.
bagsy@lemmy.world · 116 pts · 201d
It really makes you wonder how these reporters are trained. What else can they not talk about on air?
guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 61 pts · 201d
Anything that goes against the values of Sinclair or NexStar would be off the table.
Tm12@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 201d
So general common sense like fuck ICE and free Palestine?
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 201d
Pretty much everything that isn't on their script, IIRC.
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world · 100 pts · 201d
Sundiata@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 201d
she smiles like the woman from ba sing se,
the back in the 90s part screams body language of desperation to signal to him to play along and say what she wants him to say.
plz1@lemmy.world · 99 pts · 201d
She was trying to do a fluff piece interview, and he was trying to drop hard facts. I'm glad he didn't back down on his points.
orbitz@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 201d
Haven't watched it but sounds like someone with strong convictions and an idea why things are the way they are. Hopefully eventually enough people recognize the fact that we need a functional society that allows the random person to feel comfortable. Cause if you get enough itchy people things get scratched.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 201d
It's a 30 second clip mate
PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 201d
30 seconds of sound when you're pooping on the toilet at work, is 30 seconds too much sound. Hypothetically speaking.
modus@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 200d
You sit idly pooping while so much of the housing stock in the US is owned by hedge funds?
cv_octavio@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 200d
VeryVito@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 200d
lobut@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 200d
I've been next to lads in the stalls where they're dropping bombs and on the phone on the same time. No shame. Barely stopped to grunt. Truly Gods among men.
orbitz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 200d
Pretty much I don't care for random audio, I prefer text articles or comments to get the jist of things. I actually hate noise unless it's for entertainment or another person (well sometimes I don't care for that but polite society and all).
A 30 second video would be a nice short article.
laranis@lemmy.zip · 95 pts · 201d
Crazy how fast she pulled back on that. Like she has been trained to not allow that sort of talk. It was almost instant.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 45 pts · 201d
From
to 
in an instant!
Smeagol666@crazypeople.online · 16 pts · 201d
A dog watching another dog bite the hand that feeds her.
commander@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 201d
As unhinged as social media gets, this is pretty much why so many end up trusting it over traditional media. The internet broke the veil of commercial reporting/journalism - media in general. Broke the trust on accepting public personas and not being suspicious of them behind the scenes. Sell out reporters/journalist/artists/etc are like scabs to labor strikers
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 201d
If the fediverse can focus on integrating content from from other fediverse sources extremely organically, the fediverse will win. I shouldn't have to leave Lemmy to watch this video.
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 201d
You need to leave? I could just watch it on the timeline. Using jerboa, I guess it depends on client.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
Ok web, its embedded. On mobile, I have to hop out.
Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 200d
Woah, I've been on Eternity for quite a while and have heard about Jerboa a bunch in comments! Finally downloaded it based on this comment and sure enough, this video was the first thing in my feed and it even auto played silently on the thumbnail! (Turning that off immediately though lol)
Thanks for the recommend!! ❤️
aka@slrpnk.net · 16 pts · 201d
It's embedded for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 201d
Time for a new client, it sounds like 🖖🏼🤓
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
On voyager, I have to go out of client.
froh42@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 201d
Woah weird, I just watched it by clicking on it in voyager. Maybe something with the instance I'm logged in to?
(Ok, voyager opens the loop link in an embedded browser window,)
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
yeah thats what I'm talking about.
froh42@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 201d
Ok, it sounded like you needed to manually open it outside. I agree it's not perfect and can be improved , but it still works without needing to click too often.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 200d
Voyager sounds pretty rough, try Jerboa instead, that's the good one.
ptu@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 201d
Are there some federated video sites? Most of the video results in duckduckgo are hosted by the tech giants, would be cool if there was some alternatives
night_petal@piefed.social · 10 pts · 201d
PeerTube is the biggest player for fediverse video as far as I know. There is also Loops, which is where this video is hosted.
chortle_tortle@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 201d
Did you have to leave on .world? I didn't have to on my instance, but I don't know exactly how all that works.
In this case I'd say it's especially good for the sake of loops rather than lemmy. Loops is quite a small platform, and looking at it now, this post has 23 likes and 2 comments. But two posts I've seen on lemmy, totaling ~800 upvotes and ~45 comments.
Seems like pulling that info into loops would make it all feel much more lively, though I'm sure this isn't insight to the already busy loops creator!
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 200d
Huh? I watched it in the app (Jerboa) and it was no problem, I downloaded it too, and sync'd to my immich server, of course 🤓
makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml · 48 pts · 201d
Legend. Came back to his point with a friendly smile, and plenty of grace
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 200d
With a climate change kicker thrown in
ambientdread@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 200d
A+ for staying on message.
nexguy@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 200d
-"Snow is pretty"
-"Mmhmm, so private equity owns..."
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 201d
She pulled back the microphone mid sentence when he refused to let the conversation get derailed.
Very sus
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 201d
They better never interview me on live TV. Ill be asking the reporter where they will be hiding when the revolution comes.
https://youtu.be/IwvrGHsjD7g
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 201d
Don't worry, they'd make sure that clip of you'd never make it to air. 🫡
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 32 pts · 201d
And this is why legacy media is legacy media.
thlibos@thelemmy.club · 28 pts · 201d
She knows exactly what she is doing. She probably wouldn't even get into any trouble if she had let the guy go on for a bit since it is just a random, live interview. Doesn't matter, though, as boot-fellating, spittle-licking toadies will instantly and hungrily provide cover for the owner class. There will always be a critical mass of just about every demographic (even those you would not expect it from) who will be willing to sell out for that payday. If she doesn't try to silence or steamroll any even remotely anti-greed rhetoric she might be passed over for that next promotion.
Shout out to Washington Heights. I used to live at Fort Washington and 181st. I miss it.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 28 pts · 200d
Basically trying to nostalgia bait people but buddy saw right through it and went in for the kill.
TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 200d
webdoodle@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 201d
Operation Mockingbird 2.0 - Totalitarian Domination by controlling the narrative.
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 200d
Sounds like NBC needs to study and read socialist theory. Seriously! https://redsails.org/
OleFoFa@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 200d
They probably did, but decided to pick the side of the billionaire class/got told by their owners (the billionaire class) that they were to pick the side of the billionaire class in order to facilitate the continued exploitation of ordinary people
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 200d
Gee, would've been a shame if NBC gets split and then to the workers who would then collectivize it. Seriously!
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 200d
Can someone federate it?
VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 200d
Here is a tweet https://t.co/gUEj8HeHkF of the loops,video clip that is linked in this page https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/legend-yorker-turns-local-news-210000274.html
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 201d
This guy is my hero
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 201d
Amazing
atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 200d
I wonder what New York would have been if Henry George had become mayor back then