Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency has reported that at least 40 people were killed after an Israeli strike hit a girls’ elementary school in Minab in the southern Hormozgan province.
This is a developing story. I've provided some micro-updates in the comments, focusing on the verification of the story.
I recommend this Middle East Eye, and this Guardian article for more on this story.
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merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 140 pts · 157d
Israel not killing children for one month challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
cmbabul@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 157d
I doubt they could make it a day
andallthat@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 156d
I can't believe Trump would allow this! What a waste of perfectly good underage women
hector@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 156d
How much you want to bet they were targeting some leader's baby girl?
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 67 pts · 157d
Fuck Israel. Fake ass country.
Felis_Rex@lemmy.zip · 50 pts · 157d
Not gonna lie, it was a one off joke in Rick and Morty I saw at the end of highschool that got me to realize that, "oh this is a thing thing. Like not that one should be taking cartoons as political fact but that for the past few decades shining light on the legitimacy of Israel almost automatically turns you into a raving drunk lunatic".
It's not about Jews, or a homeland. It's a concerted effort by a group of people for over a century to underhandedly amass power and exert influence while doing great harm and lying. These aren't middle eastern people searching for their ancestral lands. They are power hungry Europeans who changed their names to larp as semetic people, to displace and replace the people who've lived there for centuries.
How a group of pilfering bandits made themselves synonymous with a religion AND ethnicity is fucking fascinating. Saying any critique of ZIONISTS and their actions brings down the wrath of YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT. I can't even fathom the dirt they have on people or why we even fucking care anymore.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 156d
I think about that one-off joke a lot these days. I was already an adult, but stating that Israel was a threat was still verboten. The tides on zionism have turned a lot in the past few years. Rick's metaphorical dance around the topic, attempting to clarify that his position had nothing to do with Judaism but rather with the state itself, is a hallmark of the era in which it was made. I can't help but wonder how that joke will be viewed as time goes on. Not that Rick would be proven wrong (Israel's doing a bang-up job of showing he was right), but the "dance" around the topic will change as more and more people grow up with Israel's threat being blatantly obvious.
clot27@lemmy.zip · 44 pts · 157d
Americans begin liberating Iranian women by 'checks notes' yeah doing what they are best at, bombing them.
Fuck america, fuck liberalism, fuck imperialism
Go IRAN!!
Bazell@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 157d
Iran should fight aggressively till the end. It is not a regular small armed conflict with Israel, it is the extermination attempt towards Iran from the US and Israel.
clot27@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 157d
Iran has targeted US military bases across the middle east meanwhile these satanic pedophiles are bombing children
flandish@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 157d
US bases would of course be targeted. They are an invasive force.
humanamerican@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 157d
I think their point is that Iran's targets are legitimate while the US/Israeli targets are children
flandish@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 157d
i do not disagree with that.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 157d
It looks like the missile fell short :\
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 157d
Yes! Ideally!
Once the IRGC collapses the Iranians can be free again 👍
middlemanSI@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 157d
Free or american free?
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 157d
they can have a protest and not have the IRGC shoot 30,000 of them free :P
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 157d
No thanks, IRGC can go to hell
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 157d
My fascist regime is better than your fascist regime!
clot27@lemmy.zip · -10 pts · 157d
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 157d
How do you call somebody who supports fascists? And it makes no fucking difference whatsoever whether the fascists wear red baseball caps or turbans. And as for the imperialism, I think the Kurds and other ethnic minorities in Iran would like a word.
clot27@lemmy.zip · -6 pts · 156d
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 156d
You don't get to order me around.
clot27@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 156d
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 156d
kmartburrito@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 156d
clot27@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 156d
Reliant1087@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 156d
They couldn't be even bothered to do the decent thing at this point and train and arm the rebels! /s
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 25 pts · 156d
God, this is complicated. Top-level comment of where I wanted to micro-update got deleted.
So, it will be here. Though, I don't think there will be much more to say.
earlier update
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Recent updates
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Pinging @diplomjodler3@lemmy.world FYI
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Death toll rises to 85, according to Iranian judiciary.
Also,
UTC: 17:29 update
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UTC: 18:15 update
Video circulating on social media of the site post-impact. I can't verify the authenticity of this.
UTC: 19:43 update
The Guardian published an article with more information on this at 18.28 GMT.
UTC: 20:29 update
Here's a imginn.com frontend link to the instagram post by Persian factchecking service Factnameh. It's a mini presentation about the event.
Also
Middle East Eye has a more complete article now.
UTC: 21:38 ending updates
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 156d
Girls? Those were non-jewish beings. Soulless vessels. So all good in terms of ethics guys.
yarrage@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 156d
Young though, so figures Trump would hit it
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 156d
Trump has manners. He wouldn’t touch a brown lady.
biscuit@lemdro.id · 16 pts · 156d
We already know that Trump approves of killing young girls.
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 156d
everyone with a young daughter knows how horrible this is. I still cant understand was it muscle-memory for the israeli pilot thinking he was in gaza? was this an intentional war crime? or how the fuck did a F35 or whatever precision bomb girls elementary school? this was not a ballistic missile 9000 miles away
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 156d
Remember when zios claimed 40 beheaded babies? "Every accusation is a confession."
But I'm pretty sure that imperial news won't be covering this actual event nearly as much as they did the imaginary.
manniesalado@piefed.social · 3 pts · 157d
Putinesque.
QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 157d
This is literally the most USAmerican thing to happen.
Bombing civilians in the middle east has been the Epstein Coalitions favourite pass time for literal decades.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 157d
Axis of Epstein.
clot27@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 156d
Americans doing something as american as possible
Liberals: Fucking russians
probable_possum@leminal.space · 1 pts · 156d
TIL in Iran there is school on Saturdays, for girls.
I already know that war is horrible. Iranian regime, Israeli and US government have failed (to resolve their differences peacefully). Civilians will suffer and die because of it.
I don't know how credible the source of the information is. I don't say it didn't happen, I just don't trust the source.
3abas@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 156d
The weekend in Iran is Thursday and Friday. Saturday is the first day of the week, and yes, there are schools for girls... I'm not sure what you're implying by that bit...
probable_possum@leminal.space · 3 pts · 156d
Thanks.
I didn't know that. Why is that? Something about religious beliefs?
Found this: https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/irans-debate-about-weekends-highlights-tehrans-ideological-constraints
It is the information in the article, which I don't doubt (including workweek). That bit is not part of the message to provoke an emotional reaction during wartime.
E: I looked for Women's education and workforce in Iran, because I didn't know anything about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_in_Iran
I wouldn't have thought that the situation is so positive, education-wise. In that regard I was quite uneducated, you are right.
Pronell@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 156d
After months of protests, I truly doubt a bunch of girls were at school on a Saturday.
Just like the US said Iraq was removing premature infants from respirators in Kuwait. Bullshit.
Just like Israel said Hamas was beheading babies. Absolute nonsense.
It's meant to generate rage first and foremost, to dehumanize the enemy.
War is dehumanizing enough.
I do not trust Iran one bit. Iranians, maybe. They're the ones suffering here. But the regimes at play here can all get fucked.
3abas@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 156d
You're comparing Israeli and US lies to justify bombing civilians with a country being surprise attacked in the middle of peace negotiations saying one of the 500 targets Israel is gloating about was a school... Because you think it's the weekend?
Not so fun fact, the weekend in Iran is Thursday and Friday. Yes, there is school on Saturday.
Pronell@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 156d
Fair point, I was ignorant of their weekends. But I was also considering that their society has been in disarray during protests for months.
Even that doesn't mean there wouldn't be school.
I still distrust news that comes from any of the regimes at play here.
And any deaths of civilians would be tragic. Of course if a school was indeed hit that would be a horrific thing.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 157d
flandish@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 157d
same goes for when “israel” and the US say they were bombing a terrorist factory.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 157d
Of course.
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 13 pts · 157d
Friend...
I don't wanna put skepticism down like this, and saying that pretty much every news org is gonna take that statement right now is understandably not enough sometimes... Maybe somebody can articulate this better why it's nonsense not to roughly believe this right now.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 157d
Those are still all just quoting Iranian state media. I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just saying there is no independent confirmation, as far as I'm aware.
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 2 pts · 157d
Yeah, that's what I meant by
Sorry, I can't express what's on my mind right now. I guess we can talk about this again once the situation there is more or less independently verified. :)
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 11 pts · 157d
Gonna micro-update here.
source
Edit: top-level post got deleted, for anyone subscribing to updates, moved to here: https://piefed.social/comment/10332190
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 157d
Fool.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -4 pts · 157d
Do Iranians go to school on a Saturday? or what's the deal, here in Australia schools are practically empty on the weekend
Hapankaali@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 157d
Iran doesn't follow the "weekend" schedule of Western historically Christian countries.
Many Muslim-majority countries (and Israel) follow a Friday-Saturday weekend schedule, but it seems that in Iran only Friday is the "weekend."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workweek_and_weekend#Iran
3abas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 156d
Iran's weekend is Thursday and Friday. Most of the middle east was Thursday and Friday 20 years ago, though most have changed to Friday Saturday to better align with international business with the west.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -5 pts · 157d
Damn :\
Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has a base located in Minab, according to reports.
Would be good to know how close this school is to the base
guillem@aussie.zone · 16 pts · 157d
Academic year begins in September and runs through June. It consists of two semesters of instruction. Students attend classes Saturday through Thursday.
chellomere@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 156d
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 5 pts · 156d
https://piefed.social/comment/10332190
It's also not unheard of that Israel targets schools, children, incubators, etc. on purpose and washes the narrative by targeting journalists and lying.
Like, has Germany even started calling it a genocide yet? You say it's typical Iran. But do you acknowledge, it's typical Israel that their horrors immediately get denied, put into question, etc.?
Iran is not the US or Europe, and you won't see much of reality if you only accept it on a silver-platter.
Do actual eye-witnesses count, at least?
chellomere@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 156d
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 156d
Was this verified by independent sources?
So you want independent verification of some incidents but leaks are fine as long as it aligns with your bias?
Are you aware of your hypocrisy?
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 3 pts · 156d
For that to be true, you're gonna have to discount all this (more pending):
Honestly, I shouldn't even be listing these, when they are almost as concisely available in the linked updates.
chellomere@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 156d
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 2 pts · 156d
I apologize, and thank you for your patience. I didn't quite get your point about origin of strike.
It sounds pretty damn dodgy to me. But, yes, there is no verification of the strike's origins to my knowledge.
Actually there is at least some verifying material:
From the last image of the Factmeh presentation
chellomere@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 156d
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 1 pts · 156d
We have the same evidence, I can't really add anything concrete to it.
What's your point? That it's more likely this was a self-sabotage? Or that it's still a possibility? Without concrete evidence, I don't know. And I don't really wanna theorize, but having focused on this story, I care about the girls and the people at the school and their relatives. They are not just numbers. So I've thought about this a bit as well.
If they [the aggressors] missed that there is a fucking school with very young school girls as part of the compound, then it's an intelligence failure and still the aggressor's responsibility to have caused this tragedy through their shit senseless offensive. And if they did know, they failed a moral test by attack anyway.
I don't accept that they needed to kill them as part of war strategies. Expect some damn accountability. That includes if Iran self-struck, but even that, as you claim being a rumoured strategy, is also something the aggressors should've known about.