I recently saw this news on the technology community https://lemmy.world/post/44224445 and got very disappointed with the way things are going with this browser.
I started using it to do my part against the chromium monopoly, but Mozilla is making too many bad decisions in my opinion.
I've heard about forks like Librewolf and Waterfox.
Which alternatives would you recommend? Do you use any of them? What are your thoughts on them?
56 Comments
SrMono@feddit.org · 46 pts · 141d
LibreWolf. It works 😬
angrywaffle@piefed.social · 44 pts · 141d
Guys, instead of a popularity contest, it'd be more productive if we listed the reasons for choosing one or another.
greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 141d
I like that idea, it provides information and gives you something to research as well. IDK shit about shit though so I'm going to keep my mouth shut lol.
gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 141d
Desktop - Librewolf
Android - Ironfox
airikr@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 141d
LibreWolf
Fokeu@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 141d
I use librewolf
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 141d
I like waterfox. I felt librewolf was a little too paranoid with its security permissions for convenient use and waterfox strikes a good balance in my opinion between what firefox is doing and what librewolf is doing.
Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 141d
A browser fork is generally less secure, because they're slower to get security updates. Firefox gives you the option to remove all the AI and that's a better approach.
Alternatively you could switch to Firefox ESR, which is basically just better in every way.
torgeros@norden.social · 12 pts · 141d
@zenbrowser by far
awake@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 141d
Does Zen allow for extensions (mainly asking for ublock origin and something comparable to the multi containers on Firefox)
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 141d
It does!
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 141d
It's Firefox, so yes. All Firefox extensions works. It also has its own extension format for UI stuff too.
KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 140d
Librewolf.
Chaser@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 141d
At the moment I just stick with firefox, as long as I can disable all the ai and telemetry bs. However in a few years Ladybird could be an alternative. They're developing a whole new browser including the engine from scratch. Looks promising to me.
https://ladybird.org/
mondoman712@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 141d
If you can ignore the creator's problematic views https://hyperborea.org/reviews/software/ladybird-inclusivity/
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 140d
there's always been a strong undercurrent of tech "libertarians" who refuse to understand that their "neutrality" is in service to fascists and pointing this fact out loud makes you the problem.
mondoman712@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 140d
Kling is more directly fash https://mastodon.social/@alatiera/115272605624599561
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 140d
men like kling were one of the reasons why i stopped being a software engineer; they're so incredibly common in the field and so highly rewarded by it that it's clear that the field's leaders are aligned with them.
it makes me wonder what i'll be doing once firefox is no longer a thing.
Cekan14@lemmy.org · 4 pts · 141d
I've discarded it after their AI use to switch to Rust
Maeve@kbin.earth · 10 pts · 141d
Desktop: librewolf. I've not found anything remotely comparable for Android.
Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 141d
I just use Fennec on android
Griffus@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 141d
What do you feel about IronFox?
Maeve@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 141d
Sorry I deleted my post because I was mistaken. I haven't tried it.
Griffus@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 141d
Worth a shot, recommended by several in the comments here as well.
Bhaelfur@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 141d
I've been using Waterfox. I've been meaning to look into Zen again.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 141d
I've been using Zen lately. It's good, but it's also pretty different. It takes some getting used to. I like it because the interface is minimal and out of the way. It keeps your browser mostly just showing the content on the web page, instead of wasting space with the taskbar that's only needed occasionally. It's still all available, just hidden away until needed.
mrnobody@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 141d
Waterfox is a great all-around platform for desktop and mobile.
Pacrat173@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 141d
LibreWolf my beloved browser
imacatnotaman@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 141d
unknowablenight@piefed.social · 8 pts · 141d
Librewolf, Librewolf all the way. It's a bit heavy-duty with the privacy, but that can be toned down in settings.
ColorfulCookie@feddit.org · 8 pts · 141d
Zen Browser, Firefox under the hood but soooo many incredibly nice features
pigup@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 141d
A lot of people saying Fennec is good on Android. The line at the bottom is a bit of a turn off, isn't it?
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 141d
Most Firefox forks still have support for Mozilla account sync and the extension malware blacklist, as those are useful features to have. But they do share info with Mozilla.
lemmyreader@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 140d
I believe that Tor browser and Mullvad browser do not phone home to Mozilla. That's my conclusion after using OpenSnitch for some time. Firefox and LibreWolf do phone home Mozilla at startup.
sonalder@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 141d
Use IronFox (forked from DivestOS Mull Browser) if you want a private FOSS firefox-based browser on Android. Note that it still lacks per-site isolation like every other FF based browser on Android, but this seems to be the most harden option available.
chunes@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 141d
Firefox has a no ai toggle, you could just use that
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 140d
Yes yes, trust the AI peddlers to keep their promises, that's always went well.
/Sarcasm
weaselsrippedmyflesh@lemmy.pt · 4 pts · 141d
On desktop, I use the Mullvad Browser and I'm pretty comfortable with it, as it's at least on par with Librewolf (which is pretty good), privacy-wise, I think. On mobile, I use IronFox through the Accrescent store, and I used to use a hardened version of Fennec, as well.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 141d
13readie@piefed.social · 2 pts · 141d
To close IronFox and all of your open pages, open the menu and press "Quit IronFox"
Anon764967@lemmy.org · 4 pts · 141d
I recommend Librewolf for logging in and using web apps, and Mullvad for one-time use. If security is your top priority, Trivalent is also a good option.
plz1@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 141d
I've been using Waterfox for a year or so, after I got tired of the broken update process for Librewolf on MacOS. No regrets.
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 141d
I use Zen on desktop, Fennec on Android. I also tried Librewolf/ Ironfox combo.
Auster@thebrainbin.org · 3 pts · 141d
On Linux, I use Waterfox. On Android, I use Fennec. Both much lighter than Firefox, and Waterfox specifically doesn't need to be installed on Linux (my biggest concern in Linux - most is installed to the system), and the dev seems to be slowly separating Waterfox from the Firefox base, instead of keeping it as a stripped down Firefox. On the privacy side of things, not knowledgeable enough myself to audit them, but haven't seen any scandals on either yet.
farting_gorilla@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 141d
I just switched to Librewolf from Firefox, would you recommend moving to Waterfox instead ?
Auster@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 141d
Haven't tested LibreWolf so can't compare them
splendid9583@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 141d
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop-browsers/
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 140d
Ironfox on mobile.
Undertaker@feddit.org · 3 pts · 141d
Librewolf for Linux Desktop and Fennec for AOSP
ptt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 141d
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 141d
seamonkey but it's not compatible with a lot of websites these days sadly. hopefully they'll catch up soon.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 141d
It's running Goanna. Any issues should be brought up either on their forum, the UXP forum, or the Pale Moon forum.
beyond@linkage.ds8.zone · 1 pts · 141d
I don't believe that is the case. I believe they have their own fork of Gecko that they maintain here.
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 141d
seamonkey is not related to palemoon's uxp/goanna stuff
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 141d
Waterfox on Mobile has been working well for me so far.
ResistingArrest@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 141d
Kinda depends on your preference. A lot of people are proponents for librewolf, but it hasn’t been great for me in the past. Privacy is probably top notch, but I have zen browser a try and I’m not hating it. Could also be a move for you.
efscher@lemmit.nyc.what.if.ua · 1 pts · 141d
I've been using Floorp for the past 6 months. No complaints.
doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 141d
lynx in the terminal or eww on emacs