Because of the fact that immigrants from Naples, the city state, came to the US in the mid to late 1800s, it is entirely probable that American Pizza predates the country of Italy.
I think Japanese would be mildly amused and try it. Mac and cheese is certainly at least somewhat known here and I don't think most would even consider that sushi; just weird, room-temp cheesey macaroni salad wrapped in seaweed.
When I was in Hawaii I went to a "barbecue" place that served general tso's chicken with a side of green beans, mac & cheese, and mashed potatoes. There was no pork or barbecue sauce.
I'm Italian and I would try this. Also, fudge those "purists" of Italian food: every family has it's own recipe for everything different from their neighbors', there's no or little historical documents about dishes still served and most "based" Italian food was invented by Italian emigrants coming back home with inspiration from where they were.
Cuisine is mixing and experimenting, tradition is the death of good food.
My Italian coworker at my old job was a big fan of pineapple on pizza. The ones who screech the loudest about people "doing it wrong" are normally a minority and suffer from insecurity and lack of knowledge.
No, the part about Thomas Jefferson is accurate, but his chef thought it was a take on French cuisine. Turns out it's descended from English casseroles.
Thomas Jefferson was obsessed with Macaroni, and created the dish that modern day mac and cheese is based on. He served it at a ton of White House dinners. He also was the person responsible for shipping macaroni extruding machines from Italy to the US while he was a diplomat over there.
Fun fact: Canadians actually eat 55% more boxes of Kraft dinner (mac & cheese) per capita than US. We love that shit for some reason (well, I know why actually it's cause it's delicious).
Seriously, why is one of the things that makes Canadians go "CANADA FUCK YEAAAA" the processed, prepackaged version of a British-invented, American-associated dish, that isn't legally allowed to be called what it's supposed to be in Canada?
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Retail4068@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 136d
Italy and France are the worst. They LOVE their protectionists pretentious screeching about how you're enjoying life wrong.
Japan was very cool with the hybrid food and traditions.
RebekahWSD@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 136d
Japan loves to make hybrid food and I love seeing them!
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 136d
Because of the fact that immigrants from Naples, the city state, came to the US in the mid to late 1800s, it is entirely probable that American Pizza predates the country of Italy.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 pts · 135d
It does, the modern Italian Republic was created after WW2 from the territory of the Kingdom of Italy.
theolodis@feddit.org · 2 pts · 135d
But the Kingdom of Italy was also the country of Italy?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · -1 pts · 135d
So when the entire style of government and bureaucracy is dissolved you think the country continues?
I think you don't know the difference between a country and the social construct that is known as a nation.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 135d
Yes, normally as long as there is legal continuity, countries retain their identity through changes of systems of government.
For example today's Germany is generally considered to be the same country as the North German confederation founded in the 19th century.
Likewise the end of communism in Eastern Europe didn't cause Bulgaria, Poland, or Hungary to cease existing, just change their form of government.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · -1 pts · 135d
Once again, you don't understand the difference between a country and a nation.
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 135d
How are you defining them?
tiredofsametab@fedia.io · 31 pts · 136d
I think Japanese would be mildly amused and try it. Mac and cheese is certainly at least somewhat known here and I don't think most would even consider that sushi; just weird, room-temp cheesey macaroni salad wrapped in seaweed.
superweeniehutjrs@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 136d
This seems like something you'd find in Hawaii
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 136d
Spam musubi is one thing.
Putting this on the same level as spam musubi is an insult to spam musubi.
Schmoo@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 135d
When I was in Hawaii I went to a "barbecue" place that served general tso's chicken with a side of green beans, mac & cheese, and mashed potatoes. There was no pork or barbecue sauce.
Meron35@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 135d
I hate this food gatekeeping.
This is REAL food, enjoyed by REAL food enjoyers:
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 6 pts · 135d
I want them all
kunaltyagi@programming.dev · 1 pts · 135d
That spam pizza has to be from okinawa 😂
Also, no kitkat pizza? :O
delcaran@feddit.it · 15 pts · 136d
I'm Italian and I would try this. Also, fudge those "purists" of Italian food: every family has it's own recipe for everything different from their neighbors', there's no or little historical documents about dishes still served and most "based" Italian food was invented by Italian emigrants coming back home with inspiration from where they were.
Cuisine is mixing and experimenting, tradition is the death of good food.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 136d
You're allowed to use bad words on the Internet
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 2 pts · 136d
GOSH HECKIE
delcaran@feddit.it · 2 pts · 136d
Thanks! I'm using too many of those IRL, plus I couldn't miss the opportunity to use "fudge" in a culinary context 😁
mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 136d
My Italian coworker at my old job was a big fan of pineapple on pizza. The ones who screech the loudest about people "doing it wrong" are normally a minority and suffer from insecurity and lack of knowledge.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 11 pts · 136d
I mean... I've actually seen this exact thing served as street food in Japan, so I don't think they are that upset about it.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 136d
Wait. Italians claim Mac and cheese?
I always thought it was an American thing. Because Americans love pouring cheese over everything.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 136d
No, the part about Thomas Jefferson is accurate, but his chef thought it was a take on French cuisine. Turns out it's descended from English casseroles.
Cort@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 136d
The chef was also his half-brother in-law, and the brother of Tommy's teenage mistress
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 136d
Thomas Jefferson was obsessed with Macaroni, and created the dish that modern day mac and cheese is based on. He served it at a ton of White House dinners. He also was the person responsible for shipping macaroni extruding machines from Italy to the US while he was a diplomat over there.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 136d
I think pasta is the victim here which still doesn't really track perfectly but it's a start lol
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 136d
Pasta comes from China. Fuck what Italy thinks about it.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 136d
I'm well aware but its at least closer than mac n cheese
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 136d
i think it originally comes from Scotland.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 135d
Fun fact: Canadians actually eat 55% more boxes of Kraft dinner (mac & cheese) per capita than US. We love that shit for some reason (well, I know why actually it's cause it's delicious).
hansolo@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 136d
Italians: Macaroni? Never meet the guy.
French: Non, c'est pas nous. And, ah, stop suggesting it iz oos.
English: Mate, cheddar 'n' butter mixed into pasta's onna da finest fings we ever doone. This is our proudest moment :''3
Japanese: Accurate.
Klear@quokk.au · 6 pts · 136d
I thought the japanese dude was a dog.
Tuuktuuk@nord.pub · 1 pts · 136d
ワンワン！
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 136d
Mac'n'sushi
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 136d
Put it in a tortilla instead and you might be onto something
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 pts · 135d
No
Add a tortilla wrap
ArfArfWoof@europe.pub · 4 pts · 136d
looks ptetty yummers ^_^
bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 136d
Would.
0ops@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 136d
Same, send noods
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 136d
Ah, a fusion restaurant
pewpew@feddit.it · 3 pts · 135d
At least the pasta looks cooked...?
mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 135d
That’s what good pushi looks like.
kamen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 135d
Pasta la vista, baby.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 135d
Okay but as a stoned mexican, that shit is looking real good about now
Martyy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 136d
KD is Canadian, isn't it?
angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 136d
Seriously, why is one of the things that makes Canadians go "CANADA FUCK YEAAAA" the processed, prepackaged version of a British-invented, American-associated dish, that isn't legally allowed to be called what it's supposed to be in Canada?
UxyIVrljPeRl@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 136d
Mett ontop would save them.
Etterra@discuss.online · 1 pts · 136d
Three I'm American and this makes me want to vomit up everything I've ever eaten in my entire lifetime in one huge gigabarf.
db2@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 136d
Throw some beans on top and get 3.