Hi everyone
I'm making a recipe and it says to use 1 box of the roux. Using a whole box seems like alot. Does it mean the whole box or 1 square
What other way can I make vegetarian japanese curry? With or without the roux
Hi everyone
I'm making a recipe and it says to use 1 box of the roux. Using a whole box seems like alot. Does it mean the whole box or 1 square
What other way can I make vegetarian japanese curry? With or without the roux
71 Comments
pianoplant@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 140d
Follow the instructions on the curry box. It should break apart into pieces like a chocolate bar.
You can also just add one square at a time and keep tasting it until it's the strength you want.
Start by boiling potatoes, carrots, onion. When they soften add roux. It's a pretty forgiving recipe
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JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 11 pts · 140d
I've been using these for years, and have found that slicing up the squares can help a lot with getting them to melt properly. Undissolved curry-square can be a bit on the nasty side.
Also, these contain a lot of palm oil unfortunately, so you probably want to add them right at the end of the cooking process.
CTDummy@aussie.zone · 24 pts · 140d
Go to an Asian grocer and get the House Java curry blocks. It’ll pretty much ruin the golden curry roux cubes for you.
Edit: I usually cut the roux cubes up and mix it with boiling water in a bowl and whisk it to avoid lumps. Here’s a recipe I use as a base (but in a pressure cooker). Isn’t vego but can be modified. Makes heaps of great curry.
Meron35@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 140d
Some Japanese people swear by adding some chocolate to curry.
After trying it, they're not wrong.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 140d
Like a chunk of a candy bar, or unsweetened cocoa powder? Because the powder is pretty cool for other things, too. I put a couple heaping tablespoons in my Chili. It gives it a richer, molé vibe.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 140d
Baking chocolate, or cocoa powder.
This is a common 'secret' ingredient in Cincinnati chilli too.
Mirshe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 140d
No it's not. At least not in the big three chili parlor chains here (Skyline/Goldstar/Dixie). I haven't ever run across anyone who adds cocoa to their chili and I've lived here for 30+ years.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 140d
Now you know one 👋
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
Not one who will tell you their secret ingredient at least
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
Chocolate is one of my seven secret herbs and spices in my chili. It really bams up the bitter flavor in a nice way, without giving an over-weaseled texture to he dish.
Bam!
TerdFerguson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 140d
Actually all three.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 140d
you should try adding chocolate and brown sugar to chili.
you will literally win chili competitions with it.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
Hey that was my comment gimme back my comment.
Um try... Fuck I don't want to give away all my secret ingredients and I don't want to get out of bed.
I think we're all fancy enough here to make our own chili paste out of peppers instead of using default McCormick bullshit chili powder. My default 5 gallon pot uses around 4 new Mexicos (fruity), 3 anchos (earthy), 2 Californias (I forget it's late)and 4 or 5 arbols (heat). Boil some water in the kettle, put it in a pot and steep for 15. Put on some gloves, pull the stems and as many seeds as you'd like and then puree a blender. In short :Figure out whatever ratio of peppers you like (your nose is your best guide. Put your final blend together before you soak and smell em. That's what you will get) , then figure out how much you add to how much chili you're making. Measure, document, measure, document, &c. so's the next time you don't waste as much. If you didn't make enough chili paste, go ahead and add a little chili powder it won't overpower what you made, but like homemade is better.
Some people may argue about beans. Fuck em. They can enjoy your bean stew while we have your chili.
rosco385@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 139d
Some diced apple adds a nice touch too.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 139d
Instant coffee works too
Town@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 140d
Some people recommend mixing Java and Golden.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 140d
I've never heard of these products. What exactly is Japanese curry, and what does it taste like?
GalacticHero@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 140d
It’s much less spicy than most other curry. Even the “hot” versions are like barely detectable heat. It also often has apple and honey added for sweetness, and I would say it’s saucier than other curries. It’s good if you approach it as its own thing, but very different from like a British-style curry and even more different from anything you would find in India.
The product in the picture is a curry roux block, which looks a bit like a big Hershey chocolate bar with squares that can be broken off. It’s like a sauce concentrate. You start cooking your meat and vegetables in a pot, add just enough water to cover everything, then add cubes of roux. The roux has everything necessary to make a complete sauce, but lots of home cooks have their own blend of things they add to adjust, like the aforementioned grated apple and honey, or ginger, garlic, mirin, tonkatsu sauce, etc.
CTDummy@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 140d
Imo it taste much better and the texture is better too, more “velvety”. There are variants of the photo that are sweeter/have apple flavour. I like the stock standard Java stuff. I added a link to the recipe I started with initially in the original comment since there’s a few of replies.
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 140d
I'm not sure how to describe it, but its way different from my expectations and I feel like one day I'll eat or drink something and say "it tastes kinda like japanese curry"
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 140d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_curry
noxypaws@pawb.social · 1 pts · 118d
Japanese curry is peak savory food. Nothing like Indian or Thai curries at all, very much its own thing. Not usually spicy at all, but can be if you want.
Sort of between a sauce and a stew. Sometimes with veggies in it, sometimes just a homogenous thick delicious stuff. Goes great over rice, and especially with breaded things like tofu or, if you eat meat, chicken or pork. The curry sticks to the breading and, fuck, my mouth is watering just typing this up.
If you're curious, see if any Japanese restaurants near you make Japanese curry, or try the grocery store roux boxes like in the OP. Basically just cook down some onions and add the roux with water, carrots, and potatoes and then simmer for a bit. Can add whatever else you'd like, tho carrots and potatoes go really well with it.
mrfriki@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
Didn't knew about this brand, will look for it next time I go shopping.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 139d
Confirm Java is the best roux one can reasonably get outside of Japan
My additions to the box recipe: I cut the veg a bit smaller, I brown the veg a bit (including potatoes, but you have to have a dry starchy potato type like russet for this to work otherwise precooking it will lead to it just becoming mush during the boil and thickening the sauce), add honey and some kind of neutral hot sauce because Japanese “spicy” is like not even a little spicy. I actually now use one of those ultra extreme spicy 10 billion scoville capsicum extract sauces, literally a few drops in a pot makes it decently spicy and otherwise adds no flavor.
Unless you live alone you might as well make the whole box in one recipe imo. It keeps for several days, reheats easily, and it’s one of those “tastes better day 2 and 3” kind of meals. The only thing is that freezing it doesn’t work so well (sort of). Freezing busts up the cell walls in the potatoes so even if you use a dry starchy potato like above it will turn to mush once you thaw and reheat. It’s not bad, but it does change the texture with a thicker sauce and much less potato “chunks” (some bits usually survive).
The only better thing I’ve found is to make a roux from scratch but honestly it’s not that much better (and probably worse until you dial it in) but a lot more work. The roux is like $4 a box at my local market and making it is like an entire Saturday plus way more money in ingredients especially if you don’t have a well stocked spice rack
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
Thanks for the tip, I'm gonna try this.
rosco385@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 139d
I prefer Vermont curry
Kojichan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 137d
Lol. The box says "Jawa curry". Didn't know Jawa's ate curry.
ahem
I'm not a fan of House Foods curry, outside of Vermont. My favorite are the S&B Kamakuro curry. Much tastier than the S&B Golden, IMO.
Kamakuro tend to have more curry flavor, slightly sweeter, and aren't as aggressively spicy. Super delish. Not like the western beefy gravy flavor of the Golden Curry.
Make a half box of roux with bite-sized ingredients (omit meat or replace with more veg), then super thicken JUST the sauce to make a yummy filling for Curry Pan.
derin@lemmy.beru.co · 17 pts · 140d
Hello, I've had both of these boxes and they do mean one entire box (I'm surprised there are so many comments and no one is answering your question).
My recommendation is to halve the amount of liquid and meat, while keeping the vegetable amounts the same, and use half a box of curry roux (note: I always use a whole carrot, I've never use half). One box includes two packets with 4 vaccuum sealed cubes in each, so half a box is much easier to make than a quarter.
The flavor is the same, and it's great. I've tried it and can confirm that if you use any less it'll be a bit too watery. Likewise, if you use less than half then that means any leftovers will no longer be sealed (unless you use scissors while peeling off the plastic to preserve the seal on half a packet)
Here's a source where you can double check the recipe.
Also, trust me when I say it isn't too much. It produces a crazy amount of curry. Half a box is enough for one dinner, plus two servings of leftovers, for a single guy like myself. A full box is basically designed to feed a family.
M137@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 140d
Buy WHY is the medium hot one green and the mild one orange!? That's the opposite of what it should be.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
Maybe Japanese peppers are backwards
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
The hot one is golden, BTW.
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
Jarix@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 139d
That's actually a feature not a bug if you are me. I like that is different in different places and i wouldn't want it rebranded
AA5B@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 139d
Tastes great, mightily convenient! I always add the whole box and it never occurred to me not to - I don’t see how the sauce would thicken up if you didn’t, plus there’d be no flavor.
This is actually how I discovered my family was hit by covid back during the pandemic. This was the first food where we noticed that two of us could neither smell nor taste it, a hallmark of early covid
Jarix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
Yet it also says for half pack cooking use half the ingredients with 660ml of water
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 138d
I wonder if yours is packaged differently…. No half sized directions. If your packaging somehow distinguishes half the ingredients, I’m not seeing that either
recklessengagement@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 140d
These are so good. But they are never as spicy as I expect them to be
ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 140d
I recently saw "Extra Hot" at the local Asian market, so I picked it up. Still not that hot. Next time I may throw a couple of dried arbol chilis in.
JoseALerma@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 139d
I find that it stands for spice-level, not heat-level. And that spice-level is how much of the general spices they add, not chili spices.
If it's chili spice you're looking for, an Indian curry might work out better than a Japanese curry
Jarix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
The flavours are entirely different though. Just saute your favourite chilis or hot peppers if you want to boost the spice level
JoseALerma@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 139d
Indian curry is an opportunity to learn about the combination of the two types of spices with less effort, but I agree spicing up a Japanese curry can work if one is okay with experimenting.
I like that Japanese curry can be made quickly and by only chopping a few root vegetables that keep long in the pantry
Jarix@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 139d
Japanese curry is it's own thing. Japanese are not spice lords. That's fine. You can just add some extra ingredients, since you are adding whatever vegetables you like anyway.
You are basically saying go fuck japan by suggesting just go explore Indian curry if you don't like how mild Japanese palate is. And that's pretty damned disrespectful in my opinion. So I say to you that's poor advice for someone who enjoys Japanese curry
JoseALerma@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 138d
Jarix@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 138d
Right back at ya maaan
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 139d
Japan doesn't like spicy food for the most part. In the last 10 or so years they've gotten a little better about it, but it used to be that just about any restaurant with a "extremely hot" option (for ramen or whatever) would have a barely detectable level of heat. Just about the hottest thing you could commonly find was tabasco.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
These are good tips. I gotta get some potato starch tomorrow so I might grab some of these for experiments
scytale@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 140d
The back of the box should have some info on the number of squares needed by proportion. Match it up with the serving size of the recipe you’re following.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
scytale@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 139d
That's definitely one square piece, because using the entire package with less than 3 cups of water will definitely be too much.
bitofarambler@crazypeople.online · 6 pts · 140d
I made that stuff a ton backpacking across Japan, it means one square unless it's supposed to serve four people.
I usually used 1 to 2 squares each meal for myself, feel free to add a first cube, mix it in, then add more until you get to your desired consistency.
If it's just you and a single meal, all 8 pieces is probably going to be too much.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 2 pts · 118d
my gosh, japanese curry while backpacking sounds incredible
bitofarambler@crazypeople.online · 2 pts · 118d
Curry was always such a satisfying ending to a long day of hiking. I carried some noodles in my pack, a box of curry cubes and bought fresh vegetables from the first roadside seller or stall I saw when I got hungry. Filled up my cookpot with some water, poured rubbing alcohol into my alcohol stove and had piping hot japanese curry with mushrooms and spinach and noodles a few minutes later ahhhh it was so good. For 3 months straight I had curry every other day, when I wasn't chowing down on sushi and sashimi.
Knives@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 140d
I use one square per serving I'm making.
pilferjinx@piefed.social · 4 pts · 140d
I like to use a bit of my own blend with half to stretch out the box. But in your case just use the whole box. I like to cut the bars into small pieces then smoosh it into a powdery kind of texture so that the flour incorporates much easier and smoother into the pot. I also just remove meat from the dish.
Bonus: add a bit of Worcestershire sauce and a teaspoon of honey.
ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 140d
I'm not sure if you're removing the meat because you're a vegetarian but if so, you should be aware that Worcestershire sauce is made with anchovies.
pilferjinx@piefed.social · 4 pts · 140d
I'm mostly vegetarian, it's a bit complicated.
ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 140d
No judgment here! Just wanted to make sure it was an informed decision.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 140d
What does your recipe say about the other ingredients, especially the liquids? The whole box is for 1200ml water, but you can use a quarter of that "chocolate bar" with 300ml or two quarters with 600ml.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
RebekahWSD@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 140d
I've used these, and made it by the instructions. A tip. You have to stir a lot to get the squares to dissolve nicely instead of gloopily clinging to the veggies/meat/whatevers. Just keep stirring and stirring.
renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 140d
are you making curry just for yourself and for how many days? For me, usually, one such box is equivalent to 3-4 portions of curry
Heikki2@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
I save a link on Dinner By Dennis where they share all the different types of Curry around the world and a little history of the dish.
Here is the link https://dinnerbydennis.com/the-complete-curry-recipe-guide/
Tuuktuuk@nord.pub · 3 pts · 140d
I had no idea something like this actually exists. Thanks for enabling me to know!
mrfriki@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
It depends on the amount of curry you are making, I normally use half a box which break into 4 pieces just like a chocolat bar.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 139d
My favorite recipe to make is this Japanese chicken curry with rice (cooked with star anise, cloves, cardamom, and a bay leaf). My friends used to love it. This is reminding me to make it again. Lasts for days if you make too much!
I always do just carrots, potatoes, and sautéed onions. You can do fried or sautéed tofu instead of chicken like I use, and I bet it would be just as amazing!
Happy cooking!
FreddyNO@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
I usually use 4 squares; 1 square per person
BigTwerp@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 139d
This is the answer. 1 square to 300ml water works well.
Also the blacka and gold box is best!
RobotFK@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -2 pts · 140d
A picture of the back would have been good, but if my memory serves me right the 900g of Meat and Vegetables are meant wo be used with one Square
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
Google tells me 1 lb is 450g meat, so that’s way off
RobotFK@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 139d
Huh, you are right. Both squares are meant for the 12 servings. I personally found 1 square enough for 1.5kg vegetables+ 500g Tofu and rice as a side
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 138d
Interesting how different the same product is ….
“Both”? Maybe this is the entire confusion. In my package there is one rectangular piece for the roux. While it’s partly sectioned into 8 pieces that you could break off (think like a hersheys chocolate bar, if you have those), it’s one piece, and packaged in one rectangular plastic tray.
Jarix@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 139d