Alright, now that it’s been brought up, can I just ask whether anyone else is tired of this obsession with shaving? I’m on the other side of the aisle and I can’t understand how hairlessness is meant to be attractive, pleasant to maintain, or (and this is the weirdest one) tactful. Women have body hair. Why it in vogue to pretend they don’t?
I shave my foot hair, but only because it catches on my socks. I’ve heard exactly one woman complaining about groin hair catching on fabric and that was because it had been shaved recently.
Women deserve body hair and large pants pockets, but that’s just my political opinion.
Lots of men shave/wax, too. Most "hot" male hollywood stars are showing up with a completely hairless upper body to their shirtless scenes. There's definitely more pressure on women IRL, though.
I didn't think so back when I was a teen (a time when most boys my age didn't have chest hair yet, so it made sense.) But as I got older and it became age-appropriate, I started to really, really like it. There's nothing like grabbing a handful of chest hair in the midst of passion (provided that he's into that.)
As a man, my experience with women's hair down there is positive generally. When it comes to oral pleasure however, it gets challenging to me personally.
I've completely wiped out my moustache and beard for various people who enjoy kissing me, but not the facial hair.
Some people like the scratch, others don't, others don't really have a strong preference either way, so long as they don't have to go through a mane and end up with a mouthful of hair.
Just... do that both ways, for 'kissable' body parts, per preference of the 'kisser', and its fine?
I'd like to add that pubic hair can make a big difference for sex as far as chaffing goes. Having sex with everything shaved leaves my skin irritated. Even just a tuft of hair helps prevent that from happening.
Point is, pubic hair serves a purpose. Besides, the challenge of shaving pubic hair in its entirety isn't worth it to me. You get maybe a day where it's smooth, then itchy bumps that you can't scratch in public for a week afterwards. Not to mention the struggle of shaving an intimate area that you can't easily see or reach, putting a razor super close to extremely sensitive body parts and hoping your hand doesn't slip... no, thank you! Just accept that I'm a grown woman and grown women have hair. If that's a hard line for you, then I guess you're not getting laid. ¯\(ツ)/¯
I usually shave my body hair in summer when i wear lighter clothes with more open skin. Its just easier to apply sun protecting cream to bare skin compared to hairy skin.
Honestly starting to shave more and more areas has made me hate body hair more and more. Idk why, but any hair that isnt my eyebrows or on top of head drives me absolutely insane now. It gets to be much to shave everything all the time, i do it in cycles. If i never grew it again, id be a happy girl
I have waxed at home, but I can concur with this. Shaving leaves the tips of hair sharp, but when it grows in from the root it gets a fine, naturally-tapered tip that makes it feel softer.
Which is part of why the myth of "if you shave your hair, it will come back thicker" is so prevalent. The hair doesn't permanently change texture from shaving, it's just that once you get into a habit of doing it regularly, it will feel rough all the time because of it.
I have one I have used twice because the fear of giving myself cancer freaks me the hell out. I have no idea if that fear is founded, it was just an epiphany I had.
Zero risk of cancer, all it does is pull hairs out by the root the same as tweezers or wax. Not that I don't understand the apprehension after having used it the first time, epilators hurt viciously but they get the job done quickly and consistently with minimal prep or cleanup.
OMG i have the most sensitive skin ive ever seen on anyone. Waxing and hair remover is a nogo, especially because the hair that grows from that skin is also very thick. Ive used hair remover and managed burning my skin before all the hair would come.
Ive tried waxing too but no matter how i do it it doesnt actually pull the hair. Maybe i dont let it grow enough? Idk
AFAIK you do need to grow it out a bit, especially when it's your first time (the finer hairs that grow from well-waxed skin should offer less resistance). That was one of the issues when I went to a professional waxing one time. The chemical hair remover I've tried has been useless, too. At this point, about the only thing I haven't tried is brazilian waxing (supposedly more skin-friendly) and laser hair removal, but both are beyond my financial means...
I appreciate the reply! Imma try the waxing after longer hair, even if it makes my skin hate me. I hope it helps, because i literally have to shave some areas twice a day if i wanna be hairless lol
I mean, I've groomed some of my partners, some of them have groomed me.
So... yes?
There is at least one person?
Maybe I am very strange, I am autistic, so social norms are basically all arbitrary performances to me, but it seems to just make sense?
I'm fairly sure this is also a behavior that is done by a good deal of our ape ancenstors, mammals more broadly: Grooming and cleaning another is itself a kind of social bond, a way to establish and demonstrate trust and care.
It also just saves money; if you have or can teach a partner how to do things like... haircut touchups, eyebrow shaping, basic mani/pedicure type stuff, whatever, now you don't need to spend money on something you'd normally have to pay someone else to do.
And you can just like, have a conversation while doing this. Quality time, lol!
Works super duper well if one of your 'love languages' is just any kind of caring/affirmatory physical touch.
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Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 161d
Alright, now that it’s been brought up, can I just ask whether anyone else is tired of this obsession with shaving? I’m on the other side of the aisle and I can’t understand how hairlessness is meant to be attractive, pleasant to maintain, or (and this is the weirdest one) tactful. Women have body hair. Why it in vogue to pretend they don’t?
I shave my foot hair, but only because it catches on my socks. I’ve heard exactly one woman complaining about groin hair catching on fabric and that was because it had been shaved recently.
Women deserve body hair and large pants pockets, but that’s just my political opinion.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 161d
I don't shave for aesthetics, personally, I shave because I hate having body hair, it bothers me.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 161d
I sorta get it, but it’s really not for me to understand. I just don’t care for the ambient social pressure in the US.
oxideseven@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 159d
This. Body hair grosses me out.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 160d
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 15 pts · 161d
Lots of men shave/wax, too. Most "hot" male hollywood stars are showing up with a completely hairless upper body to their shirtless scenes. There's definitely more pressure on women IRL, though.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 160d
That's sad. Chest hair is hot.
I didn't think so back when I was a teen (a time when most boys my age didn't have chest hair yet, so it made sense.) But as I got older and it became age-appropriate, I started to really, really like it. There's nothing like grabbing a handful of chest hair in the midst of passion (provided that he's into that.)
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 161d
They are not men, they're effeminate spineless followers of trends
shani66@ani.social · 13 pts · 160d
Feels better, both to have smooth skin and to feel smooth skin. Just looks better too ¯_(ツ)_/¯
same goes for men, too, society just doesn't pressure men the way it does women
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 160d
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 160d
*ding* Someone confident enough in their body to allow themselves to grow out their hair and age naturally? Oooh baby!
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 160d
MML@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 161d
Don't shave, trim
Damaskox@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 161d
As a man, my experience with women's hair down there is positive generally. When it comes to oral pleasure however, it gets challenging to me personally.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 160d
The only real issue with oral is that some hairs stay in your mouth.
socsa@piefed.social · 4 pts · 160d
I am a fan of hair in general, but I will say that inhaling a pube and having it cling to the back of your throat is a pretty big mood killer.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 158d
Getting one in your nose, on the other hand, is very funny
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 160d
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 160d
Sadly cannot confirm if it goes both ways
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 160d
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 160d
I believe you, it makes total sense. Just a little self pitty here
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 160d
Damaskox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 158d
The taste is my biggest challenge. Getting hair in my mouth in itself is a smaller problem for me.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 158d
Who are you going down on? I never found the taste to be an issue and it has ranged from quite strong to pretty much no taste at all.
moakley@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 160d
You're supposed to put your mouth on the parts that don't have hair.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 160d
Basically same.
I've completely wiped out my moustache and beard for various people who enjoy kissing me, but not the facial hair.
Some people like the scratch, others don't, others don't really have a strong preference either way, so long as they don't have to go through a mane and end up with a mouthful of hair.
Just... do that both ways, for 'kissable' body parts, per preference of the 'kisser', and its fine?
This seems very not complicated to me.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 159d
Pppppp
Damaskox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 158d
?
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 158d
When you get a pube in your mouth and you go ppppp to get it out
LazyWatermelon3623@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 159d
Skill issue
Damaskox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 158d
Care to elaborate?
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 160d
I'd like to add that pubic hair can make a big difference for sex as far as chaffing goes. Having sex with everything shaved leaves my skin irritated. Even just a tuft of hair helps prevent that from happening.
Point is, pubic hair serves a purpose. Besides, the challenge of shaving pubic hair in its entirety isn't worth it to me. You get maybe a day where it's smooth, then itchy bumps that you can't scratch in public for a week afterwards. Not to mention the struggle of shaving an intimate area that you can't easily see or reach, putting a razor super close to extremely sensitive body parts and hoping your hand doesn't slip... no, thank you! Just accept that I'm a grown woman and grown women have hair. If that's a hard line for you, then I guess you're not getting laid. ¯\(ツ)/¯
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 158d
does the skin irritation still happen if you shave but don't have sex?
gegil@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 161d
I usually shave my body hair in summer when i wear lighter clothes with more open skin. Its just easier to apply sun protecting cream to bare skin compared to hairy skin.
pyre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 160d
i don't care either way, but shaving all your pubic hair is unattractive imo.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 160d
Idgaf about bush hair tbh, I actually prefer it! It has a very nice hand feel. I do prefer shaved legs tho.
brookedSmile@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 34 pts · 161d
Honestly starting to shave more and more areas has made me hate body hair more and more. Idk why, but any hair that isnt my eyebrows or on top of head drives me absolutely insane now. It gets to be much to shave everything all the time, i do it in cycles. If i never grew it again, id be a happy girl
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 161d
brookedSmile@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 161d
Ill look into this, thank you!
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 160d
I have waxed at home, but I can concur with this. Shaving leaves the tips of hair sharp, but when it grows in from the root it gets a fine, naturally-tapered tip that makes it feel softer.
Which is part of why the myth of "if you shave your hair, it will come back thicker" is so prevalent. The hair doesn't permanently change texture from shaving, it's just that once you get into a habit of doing it regularly, it will feel rough all the time because of it.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 160d
remilia@lemmy.cyberia9.org · 9 pts · 161d
Honestly that's me as well anymore. I used to be more ambivalent about it.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 161d
Are you familiar with epilators? Not pleasant to use at first but extremely effective
brookedSmile@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 161d
Ive heard about them but i havent gotten my hands on one yet, may have to soon tho, thanks!
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 161d
You're welcome!
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 160d
I have one I have used twice because the fear of giving myself cancer freaks me the hell out. I have no idea if that fear is founded, it was just an epiphany I had.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 159d
Zero risk of cancer, all it does is pull hairs out by the root the same as tweezers or wax. Not that I don't understand the apprehension after having used it the first time, epilators hurt viciously but they get the job done quickly and consistently with minimal prep or cleanup.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 159d
I think I got the word wrong. I thought epilators were for laser removal, but I guess there isn't a specific word for those.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 159d
Fair, they do have a bunch of different IPL and laser products and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them could give you cancer
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 6 pts · 161d
I even got some kind of "razor burn" from professional waxing, and I kinda hate having all this body hair. FML
brookedSmile@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 161d
OMG i have the most sensitive skin ive ever seen on anyone. Waxing and hair remover is a nogo, especially because the hair that grows from that skin is also very thick. Ive used hair remover and managed burning my skin before all the hair would come.
Ive tried waxing too but no matter how i do it it doesnt actually pull the hair. Maybe i dont let it grow enough? Idk
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 4 pts · 161d
AFAIK you do need to grow it out a bit, especially when it's your first time (the finer hairs that grow from well-waxed skin should offer less resistance). That was one of the issues when I went to a professional waxing one time. The chemical hair remover I've tried has been useless, too. At this point, about the only thing I haven't tried is brazilian waxing (supposedly more skin-friendly) and laser hair removal, but both are beyond my financial means...
brookedSmile@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 161d
I appreciate the reply! Imma try the waxing after longer hair, even if it makes my skin hate me. I hope it helps, because i literally have to shave some areas twice a day if i wanna be hairless lol
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 161d
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 160d
So, I am a dude, thus take this with a grain of salt perhaps, but:
Find you a person who will be excited to, and capable of safely shaving/trimming you.
tr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 160d
There are people who do that?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 159d
I mean, I've groomed some of my partners, some of them have groomed me.
So... yes?
There is at least one person?
Maybe I am very strange, I am autistic, so social norms are basically all arbitrary performances to me, but it seems to just make sense?
I'm fairly sure this is also a behavior that is done by a good deal of our ape ancenstors, mammals more broadly: Grooming and cleaning another is itself a kind of social bond, a way to establish and demonstrate trust and care.
It also just saves money; if you have or can teach a partner how to do things like... haircut touchups, eyebrow shaping, basic mani/pedicure type stuff, whatever, now you don't need to spend money on something you'd normally have to pay someone else to do.
And you can just like, have a conversation while doing this. Quality time, lol!
Works super duper well if one of your 'love languages' is just any kind of caring/affirmatory physical touch.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 26 pts · 161d
There goes my hero
Watch her as she goes
(Its hard out here for hairy mfuckers)
redbrick@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 161d
Very interesting...can they reach down that far??? I mean that distance looks almost a full body length from this perspective.
remilia@lemmy.cyberia9.org · 8 pts · 161d
Well... I've never had a bite on my scalp or my crotch, so I'm guessing they can't.
sundray@lemmus.org · 10 pts · 161d
Same. (Well... mosquito bites, at least.)
Ziglin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 161d
Lucky
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 161d
What about bedbugs, can they reach there 🤔
remilia@lemmy.cyberia9.org · 3 pts · 161d
...probably? I think? Never experienced them.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 160d
Ive watched these mosquitos. They land on top of the body hair, and then quickly climb down to the skin level, maybe taking a split second to do so.
Sometimes that's enough of a delay to detect and swat them.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 160d
Bugs, in general, can they bite you anywhere?
Basically yes, depending on the clothes you're wearing, the position you're in, the climate/biome you live in.
Sand fleas, at a nudist beach.
A person sleeping nude in an area that's got lots of bugs, etc.
You've decided to go camping, where bugs exist.
...etc.
Let me just tell you that bed bugs fucking suck.
Like, figuratively and literally.
Ain't everybody got enough money to live in a decently maintained residence or building or... county or city.
oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 159d
Heck yeah, body hair!