The critique isn’t that canadians are basically USians its that the US appropriates the name of the entire continent(s) “America” for it’s own country name.
You just heard it from a Canadian, but also the US has not appropriated the name of entire continents for itself. The continent it shares with Canada and Mexico is “North America” and “North American” still applies to people from those countries. The US hasn't taken anything away from anyone else in this naming scheme, and nobody who actually lives here will get confused by these terms and who they apply to.
The “critique” is a non-issue pushed mainly by uppity Europeans that nobody in this side of the pond cares about at all.
Geographically speaking, no. If you are basing that on his continent of origin as opposed to country of origin, Canada uses the 7-continent model meaning North America and South American are considered two distinct continents. This means that somebody born in Canada is, for all geographical intents and purposes, North American, or Canadian. Just “American” doesn’t make sense in this context.
That's like saying southern europeans are not european.
No it’s not like that at all, there’s no continent called “Southern Europe”.
Canada is in the american continent.
No it’s not. It’s in the North American continent. Canada uses the 7 continent model, which includes the North American and South American continents.
In Canada there is no continent just called “America”. So a Canadian calling themselves “American” makes no sense. They would either be Canadian referring to their country of origin, or North American referring to their continent of origin.
This is why the treaty that historically allowed free trade between Canada, the US, and Mexico was called NAFTA, or North American Free Trade Agreement, and not AFTA.
Having a "North America" implies there's an "America", it doesn't come out of the blue. You didn't start with a North America, you start with America and then divide it between north and south.
The singular America that you’re referring to that in fact did not come out of the blue was a man by the name of Amerigo Vespucci. He is credited with discovering what we now know as the two distinct continents of North America and South America, together referred to as “The Americas” (Plural) which were named after him.
If there's no such thing as an "America", then why have a northern america?
Because Amerigo “discovered” two continents. One is further north, the other south. Hence, North America, and South America. You’re also confusing terms. There’s a difference between “North America” and “Northern America”. Similar to how there is a big difference between “North Ireland” and “Northern Ireland”. These are not interchangeable terms.
Why is everyone reacting like I'm claiming Canada is part of the US?
They’re reacting like you’re claiming that the astronaut is “American”, which you are, and he isn’t. He’s North American, or Canadian. If you just say “American” then you’re referring to somebody from the United States, which he isn’t. You’re acting like the word “North” in “North American” can be dropped in this context without changing the meaning but you’re incorrect.
Because how can you not be a non-American if America doesn't exist? Good day Sir!
Because “American” is the recognized demonym for the citizens of the country United States of America. It refers to the citizens of that country, not the continent it’s in.
For geographical purposes... Re-reading your comment. Ok i'll give it to you, thats even something i might have said myself. It doesnt deserve all the downvotes. Thing is with Trumps 51st state push, canadians have become vert sensitives with being called américains.
For geographical purposes he’s still wrong. If you’re Canadian you were taught the 7-continent model in school growing up. There is no “American” continent.
That fella is using a primitive and culturally reductive unified America continent model which does not apply to the people who live here.
I think people forget that the United States has no official demonym, and that America, like Great Britain, is a place not a country.
Personally, I’m a fan of adopting Station, since we all seem to have decided that the United States is a nation and not a federal system.
As an aside and fun fact: my favorite demonym is Solarian, which encompasses all people from the Solar System. The Solar System, sometimes confusingly, is named like the Moon where all moons are moons, but ours is the Moon. (Solarian is sometimes confused with Terran, but that is specific to the Earth-Moon system. All Terrans are Solarian, but not all Solarians are Terran.)
Well it all goes away with the fluid shifts that happen in microgravity. Could you imagine the flabby chins that would occur with someone with a weak jaw line. I think its a self evident requirement.
I think it might be the lighting and backdrop. They're brightly lit from one side, with a very dark background, making them really pop out. It reminds me of the lighting that was popular in 1990's formal portrait photos, which I always thought looked odd.
I would say inexperienced, not morons. I didn't assume AI, but it did feel edited. To younger people who have more experience with ai edits vs professional editing, they're just going off what they know.
If you assume everything is AI because it's doesn't quite look perfect, even if it's just a picture being taken because professional photography exists... You're a fucking moron and you should be called out for it.
Has nothing to do with inexperience. If you assume everything is AI you're an idiot.
Toilet drains into two different containers for each type of waste. The urine holding tank periodically vents overboard. The feces canisters are stored and returned to earth.
The ongoing problem is that the urine holding tank is not venting into space very well when they open the valve. The toilet drains both waste types into their containers ok. But since the urine holding tank is about the size of an office trash can, it can fill up very fast.
I believe two of these are naval aviators, and they would take exception with the "army" characterization.
But you're generally correct. It's very common that astronauts will not only have a military background, they frequently are active duty military officers on a long term detail to NASA.
The army is not well represented in the astronaut corps, because the US army only flies helicopters under an inter-branch coordination agreement.
They've actually mounted Gopros to the spacecraft for exterior pictures.
The astronauts take pictures using a Nikon DSLR and iphones.
They write down their observations in OneNote.
10$ webcam is as high as I'm willing to go. We have pictures of the Moon. Why is any of this important, interesting, scientific, or relevant to anything?
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Zagorath@aussie.zone · 87 pts · 120d
The first woman (Christina Koch), non-white person (Victor Glover), and non-American (Jeremy Hansen) in deep space. And Reid Wiseman.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 120d
Wiseman is the oldest to travel out of LEO.
john_t@piefed.ee · -49 pts · 120d
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 119d
Hi.
Canadian here.
Fuck you. We're not American. Never call us American.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip · -1 pts · 119d
The critique isn’t that canadians are basically USians its that the US appropriates the name of the entire continent(s) “America” for it’s own country name.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 119d
And nobody on this continent gives a shit.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 118d
You speak for Mexico?
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d
I'd love to hear anyone from Mexico say that they are American
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 119d
You just heard it from a Canadian, but also the US has not appropriated the name of entire continents for itself. The continent it shares with Canada and Mexico is “North America” and “North American” still applies to people from those countries. The US hasn't taken anything away from anyone else in this naming scheme, and nobody who actually lives here will get confused by these terms and who they apply to.
The “critique” is a non-issue pushed mainly by uppity Europeans that nobody in this side of the pond cares about at all.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 119d
fwiw I've seen it most often from Latin Americans.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 119d
Geographically speaking, no. If you are basing that on his continent of origin as opposed to country of origin, Canada uses the 7-continent model meaning North America and South American are considered two distinct continents. This means that somebody born in Canada is, for all geographical intents and purposes, North American, or Canadian. Just “American” doesn’t make sense in this context.
john_t@piefed.ee · -17 pts · 119d
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 119d
No it’s not like that at all, there’s no continent called “Southern Europe”.
No it’s not. It’s in the North American continent. Canada uses the 7 continent model, which includes the North American and South American continents.
In Canada there is no continent just called “America”. So a Canadian calling themselves “American” makes no sense. They would either be Canadian referring to their country of origin, or North American referring to their continent of origin.
This is why the treaty that historically allowed free trade between Canada, the US, and Mexico was called NAFTA, or North American Free Trade Agreement, and not AFTA.
john_t@piefed.ee · -16 pts · 119d
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 119d
The singular America that you’re referring to that in fact did not come out of the blue was a man by the name of Amerigo Vespucci. He is credited with discovering what we now know as the two distinct continents of North America and South America, together referred to as “The Americas” (Plural) which were named after him.
Because Amerigo “discovered” two continents. One is further north, the other south. Hence, North America, and South America. You’re also confusing terms. There’s a difference between “North America” and “Northern America”. Similar to how there is a big difference between “North Ireland” and “Northern Ireland”. These are not interchangeable terms.
They’re reacting like you’re claiming that the astronaut is “American”, which you are, and he isn’t. He’s North American, or Canadian. If you just say “American” then you’re referring to somebody from the United States, which he isn’t. You’re acting like the word “North” in “North American” can be dropped in this context without changing the meaning but you’re incorrect.
Because “American” is the recognized demonym for the citizens of the country United States of America. It refers to the citizens of that country, not the continent it’s in.
john_t@piefed.ee · -14 pts · 119d
Kaput@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 119d
Je sais pas de quoi tu parles, c'est tout juste si je suis Canadien, aucune crisse de chance que je sois américain.
cabillaud@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 119d
mdr
john_t@piefed.ee · -20 pts · 119d
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 119d
The fact you think "America" is a continent says everything anyone needs to know about your knowledge of geography.
john_t@piefed.ee · -13 pts · 119d
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 119d
The culture of the people who live in a place takes precedence over the culture of people across an ocean lol.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 119d
That fact you think you can tell someone else how their culture should work makes you the biggest piece of shit.
My culture and how I experience me and our people own our culture isn't a debate. It's reality.
You don't get to define how my country's people identify ourselves.
Politely, go fuck yourself.
Kaput@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 119d
For geographical purposes... Re-reading your comment. Ok i'll give it to you, thats even something i might have said myself. It doesnt deserve all the downvotes. Thing is with Trumps 51st state push, canadians have become vert sensitives with being called américains.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 119d
For geographical purposes he’s still wrong. If you’re Canadian you were taught the 7-continent model in school growing up. There is no “American” continent.
That fella is using a primitive and culturally reductive unified America continent model which does not apply to the people who live here.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 119d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 119d
Nah. Get fucked, bud.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 119d
I think people forget that the United States has no official demonym, and that America, like Great Britain, is a place not a country.
Personally, I’m a fan of adopting Station, since we all seem to have decided that the United States is a nation and not a federal system.
As an aside and fun fact: my favorite demonym is Solarian, which encompasses all people from the Solar System. The Solar System, sometimes confusingly, is named like the Moon where all moons are moons, but ours is the Moon. (Solarian is sometimes confused with Terran, but that is specific to the Earth-Moon system. All Terrans are Solarian, but not all Solarians are Terran.)
omxxi@feddit.org · 7 pts · 119d
in South America we just call them gringos, is clear and easy
JellyManJellyArms@feddit.dk · 5 pts · 119d
Could Gringoland work?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 119d
i like statesian. this is Station
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 67 pts · 119d
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 119d
High physical fitness is a requirement and that helps with the jaw line
LordCrom@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 119d
To be an astronaut, you also need solid steel balls... and whatever the female equivilant would be to that statement.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 119d
Titanium uterus.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 119d
What's the galvanic corrosion rate between steel and titanium? Is this why they don't want astronauts to fuck?
nullify3112@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 119d
I don’t have one and would absolutely not be capable of fixing a toilet in space
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 119d
3 of them were in the army.
assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 119d
Well it all goes away with the fluid shifts that happen in microgravity. Could you imagine the flabby chins that would occur with someone with a weak jaw line. I think its a self evident requirement.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 119d
Damn woke devs!
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 119d
If you're physically fit but have a weak jaw and/or chin, your jaw line would probably still be well defined.
mkwt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 116d
Especially when you get an excellent photographer who knows how to set up the lighting.
EonNShadow@pawb.social · 49 pts · 120d
Something about this hits the uncanny valley for me.
Touched-up with AI?
kescusay@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 120d
I think it might be the lighting and backdrop. They're brightly lit from one side, with a very dark background, making them really pop out. It reminds me of the lighting that was popular in 1990's formal portrait photos, which I always thought looked odd.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 120d
That, and the color of the suits really isn't helping.
ink@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 120d
The color is so that they aren’t spotted by the space deer.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 119d
Professional photography has been around for a long time. There's lots of it.
AI basically just copies existing things.
Ai copies professional photography.
Photo looks professional.
Therefore, photo looks ai.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 17 pts · 120d
Not everything is ai
joelfromaus@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 119d
Sounds like something ai would say >.> /s
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 4 pts · 119d
Please identify all the astronauts in this picture for me?
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 119d
Professional digital editors who have existed for decades take days to to touch up photos for press releases.
Fucking morons on the Internet in 2026: is this AI??
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 119d
I would say inexperienced, not morons. I didn't assume AI, but it did feel edited. To younger people who have more experience with ai edits vs professional editing, they're just going off what they know.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 119d
If you assume everything is AI because it's doesn't quite look perfect, even if it's just a picture being taken because professional photography exists... You're a fucking moron and you should be called out for it.
Has nothing to do with inexperience. If you assume everything is AI you're an idiot.
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 119d
Did you count the fingers?
Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d
I immediately thought of the game Left 4 dead, I thought it was edited to look like nasa lol
Onyxonblack@piefed.social · -2 pts · 120d
There's just no way it wasn't touched up with AI.. look at the woman's face and hair. Pretty obvious.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 119d
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 119d
Philote@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 120d
No one’s looking at the same camera?
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 120d
Appears as if three are looking over the right shoulder of the photographer. Only one is looking straight into the lens.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 119d
Never taken a professional group photo before? Sometimes you're explicitly asked not to look by the camera man.
Professional photographers exist for a reason.
Triumph@fedia.io · 16 pts · 120d
Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the fandango?
khanh@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 119d
how is this related to scara ✌️
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 120d
The Artemis mission is so exciting
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 9 pts · 119d
Heroic leader, super smart biologist/physicist, ace pilot, very polite weapons specialist who just likes blowing things up.
dhork@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 120d
Not pictured: all the bags of pee
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 120d
I heard they were using an actual toilet this time? Which I would assume eliminates the need for bags of pee but I haven't really looked into it.
dhork@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 120d
The toilet is malfunctioning, but only for liquid waste, somehow
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 119d
Bummer. Hope fully they have backup bags.
mech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 119d
The morning before the moon flyby they were informed by Houston that the shitter's full and they have one pee left in the budget.
mkwt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 116d
Toilet drains into two different containers for each type of waste. The urine holding tank periodically vents overboard. The feces canisters are stored and returned to earth.
The ongoing problem is that the urine holding tank is not venting into space very well when they open the valve. The toilet drains both waste types into their containers ok. But since the urine holding tank is about the size of an office trash can, it can fill up very fast.
mriormro@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 119d
And that’s just cause one of them really likes pee.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 119d
Not one dog? This is bullshit.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 119d
The "american stereotype" look is the Canadian. /s
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · -8 pts · 119d
Remember that most astronauts are from the army and trained to kill people.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 119d
Just FYI the army also has other tasks such as the Army Corps of Engineers who built the panama canal.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · -1 pts · 119d
Still trained to obey orders and to kill people
mkwt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 116d
I believe two of these are naval aviators, and they would take exception with the "army" characterization.
But you're generally correct. It's very common that astronauts will not only have a military background, they frequently are active duty military officers on a long term detail to NASA.
The army is not well represented in the astronaut corps, because the US army only flies helicopters under an inter-branch coordination agreement.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · -11 pts · 119d
To bravely go where we've been before, to do the job a 5$ webcam could do.
mech@feddit.org · 2 pts · 119d
They've actually mounted Gopros to the spacecraft for exterior pictures.
The astronauts take pictures using a Nikon DSLR and iphones.
They write down their observations in OneNote.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 118d
10$ webcam is as high as I'm willing to go. We have pictures of the Moon. Why is any of this important, interesting, scientific, or relevant to anything?
Generica@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 119d
q181c@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 119d
You're the kind of person people accidentally become acquaintances with then quickly distance themselves from, huh?