Only kind of related, but I recently started reading "It Can't Happen Here" by Upton Sinclair Sinclair Lewis, and I had to put it down after like 30 pages because it was so creepily prescient. Like down to how the demagogue politician spoke.
The book was written in 1935.
Edit: before posting this, I was like "don't say Upton Sinclair, don't say Upton Sinclair " oops.
Nothing about our culture or tendencies in the last hundred years has changed as much as 21st century humans really like to believe that it has. Just as a for instance, the first cosplay convention was also in the 30s.
Possibly, but, as far as I know, the first conventions where cosplay became popular were largely contemporary comic and science fiction related. That’s why I mentioned Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers specifically. So popular were these two characters in fact that Flash Gordon for instance had a Sunday comic, a daily comic written by a different person than the Sunday one, a radio show, and the serial that was linked in my previous comment, all at the same time.
instead they had us read books written by a socialist who thought it was so obvious that communism was a good idea that we would need warnings against authoritarianism masquerading as communism. and the interpretation they gave us was "see! communism is bad!"
i don't know how anyone can read 1984 and not realize that the message is that a centralized authority is the problem
Oh and also, we don't teach at all how evangelical Christianity was literally weaponized against 'communism/socialism', by capitalists, since before WW2, since FDR was trying to do the New Deal.
We don't teach that because uh, well basically that propoganda worked, and has continued to work, for nearly 100 years now, to the point that the people affected/brainwashed by that, well they have inordinately outsized control over what gets into school textbooks.
He was impeached twice and removal failed in the Senate. As for the 25th amendment, most Americans don't know it even exists and Congress isn't going to use it.
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Trump has a better chance of being abducted by aliens.
The problem isn't that people don't know about the 25th, the problem is they don't know how it works.
Even if the cabinet invokes the 25th, the President can just say "nah, I'm cool" and that put's an end to the whole thing, unless congress votes to remove him at that time.
So it's actually harder than impeachment and removal. Either way, you're going to need lots of Republicans to remove him.
The Twenty-fifth Amendment (Amendment XXV) to the United States Constitution addresses issues related to presidential succession and disability.
It clarifies that the vice president becomes president if the president dies, resigns, or is removed from office by impeachment. It also establishes the procedure for filling a vacancy in the office of the vice president.
🤣😂 How is this going to help? JD fucking why aren't you wearing a suit Vance? Good one.
"Don't Create the Torment Nexus" was a strange mirror held up to society to show the inherent flaws in the system. By building the torment nexus, those who did so didn't fail to understand the metaphor. They just run society like that already, so why wouldn't they do it?
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prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 80 pts · 133d
Only kind of related, but I recently started reading "It Can't Happen Here" by
Upton SinclairSinclair Lewis, and I had to put it down after like 30 pages because it was so creepily prescient. Like down to how the demagogue politician spoke.The book was written in 1935.
Edit: before posting this, I was like "don't say Upton Sinclair, don't say Upton Sinclair " oops.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 133d
Nothing about our culture or tendencies in the last hundred years has changed as much as 21st century humans really like to believe that it has. Just as a for instance, the first cosplay convention was also in the 30s.
Rudee@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 132d
Daaaamn, were people cosplaying their favourite Jules Verne character or something?
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 132d
More like Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers.
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 131d
You're telling me those Sherlock Holmes fanatics weren't dressing up like him and characters from the books when they met up?
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 131d
Possibly, but, as far as I know, the first conventions where cosplay became popular were largely contemporary comic and science fiction related. That’s why I mentioned Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers specifically. So popular were these two characters in fact that Flash Gordon for instance had a Sunday comic, a daily comic written by a different person than the Sunday one, a radio show, and the serial that was linked in my previous comment, all at the same time.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 132d
That book, along with War Is A Racket, by Smedley Butler, should have been required reading for every American over the last century.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 132d
instead they had us read books written by a socialist who thought it was so obvious that communism was a good idea that we would need warnings against authoritarianism masquerading as communism. and the interpretation they gave us was "see! communism is bad!"
i don't know how anyone can read 1984 and not realize that the message is that a centralized authority is the problem
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 132d
I see how.
The lack of the rest of the sufficient context.
Oh and also, we don't teach at all how evangelical Christianity was literally weaponized against 'communism/socialism', by capitalists, since before WW2, since FDR was trying to do the New Deal.
We don't teach that because uh, well basically that propoganda worked, and has continued to work, for nearly 100 years now, to the point that the people affected/brainwashed by that, well they have inordinately outsized control over what gets into school textbooks.
0k_@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 132d
*Sinclair Lewis, not Upton Sinclair
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 132d
Ah shit lol... Before posting I was like "it's Sinclair Lewis not Upton Sinclair. Don't fuck this up".
And I still made the error. Oh well, fixed.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 132d
Upton Lewis or Sinclair Sinclair?
sdcSpade@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 132d
In the book, what got him in the end was using a baby as a human shield from a would-be assassin. Be honest, would Trump's supporters care?
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 132d
It depends on if the baby is white or not.
Ioughttamow@fedia.io · 24 pts · 133d
There’s 3, lest we forget the 2nd
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 133d
I'm fine with Ceasar method, JFK method, Lincoln method, or even the God method. As long as the result is the same.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 132d
Party Song for Guillotine Enthusiasts
"A revolution without dancing is not a revolution worth having."
13igTyme@piefed.social · 20 pts · 133d
He was impeached twice and removal failed in the Senate. As for the 25th amendment, most Americans don't know it even exists and Congress isn't going to use it.
Manjushri@piefed.social · 12 pts · 133d
The 25th would never even get to Congress. Everyone in a position to invoke it is a Trump toady who wants him right where he is.
yesman@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 133d
Trump has a better chance of being abducted by aliens.
The problem isn't that people don't know about the 25th, the problem is they don't know how it works.
Even if the cabinet invokes the 25th, the President can just say "nah, I'm cool" and that put's an end to the whole thing, unless congress votes to remove him at that time.
So it's actually harder than impeachment and removal. Either way, you're going to need lots of Republicans to remove him.
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 133d
Don't we already know they don't work? There was a previous, successful (as in: reached its nominal end) Trump term.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 17 pts · 132d
🤣😂 How is this going to help? JD fucking why aren't you wearing a suit Vance? Good one.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 133d
Pedo, Maga, or Israel? I've forgotten about why nobody likes SK
skye@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 133d
he made fun of the epstein files not existing, after being a devout trump hater
ClownStatue@piefed.social · 6 pts · 132d
Narrator: They don’t.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 132d
One machine.
Impeachment has already failed.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 133d
So...is this life imitating art?
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 133d
"Don't Create the Torment Nexus" was a strange mirror held up to society to show the inherent flaws in the system. By building the torment nexus, those who did so didn't fail to understand the metaphor. They just run society like that already, so why wouldn't they do it?