Finland being the legitimate inheritor of the Roman Empire is a plot twist I did not expect!
PS: though the point of ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml is good and ignoring the illogical "soviet taint" "reason" to stop the line of claim from Russia there would mean that whatever is the true inheritor of the Soviet Union (most likely Russia) is the legitimate inheritor of the Roman Empire.
The Reichsbürger movement actually exists and tried to start a violent coup in Germany in the last few years, which makes this less fun (as is the German way).
Isn't "von Habsburg" the actual name of the house, rather than just "Habsburg"?
That being the case, the "von" should not be translated, same as we don't translate names which are also normal words with meaning in that language (for example, "White" or "Baker").
I think you might be confusing things with the fact that the German aristocracy was stripped of all privilege but allowed to adopt their house as a family name, in which case it is just a name that shouldn’t be literally translated.
All this theories about what conuntry still exists and what not are stupid. In the end it matters who holds the power. Who controls the army and who controls the police. And nothing else matters.
Satire, in my satire community? It's more likely than you think.
You're right, of course (although the HRE is a funny example). Where continuity comes in is convincing the army and police, and the ordinary people who support them economically, to respect your power instead of just totally ignoring you/killing you.
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partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 166d
They should totally do this, but sell the naming rights like a sports arena to the highest bidder.
sawdustprophet@midwest.social · 17 pts · 166d
The SoFi Holy Roman Empire, presented by Palantir
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 165d
It's probably the ideal country for it too, you were able to rent Liechtenstein for $70k/night.
rbos@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 166d
Very much in Roman tradition.
mr_anny@sopuli.xyz · 26 pts · 166d
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 166d
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 165d
Finland being the legitimate inheritor of the Roman Empire is a plot twist I did not expect!
PS: though the point of ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml is good and ignoring the illogical "soviet taint" "reason" to stop the line of claim from Russia there would mean that whatever is the true inheritor of the Soviet Union (most likely Russia) is the legitimate inheritor of the Roman Empire.
nightlily@leminal.space · 23 pts · 166d
The Reichsbürger movement actually exists and tried to start a violent coup in Germany in the last few years, which makes this less fun (as is the German way).
human@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 166d
They are reminding people about this every day?
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 166d
Yeah but clearly that isn't enough
human@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 166d
Get your shit together, Liechtenstein
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 166d
*von Habsburg
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 166d
Von was translated to of
starchylemming@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 166d
neither needs to be mentioned in this context
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 165d
Isn't "von Habsburg" the actual name of the house, rather than just "Habsburg"?
That being the case, the "von" should not be translated, same as we don't translate names which are also normal words with meaning in that language (for example, "White" or "Baker").
nightlily@leminal.space · 3 pts · 165d
I think you might be confusing things with the fact that the German aristocracy was stripped of all privilege but allowed to adopt their house as a family name, in which case it is just a name that shouldn’t be literally translated.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 165d
Maybe.
As I wrote elsewhere, I've just seen a couple of times Germanic house names written as "von Something".
That is, however, the full extent of my knowledge on the subject.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 164d
Oooh so they might be like Wolfgang Schmidt von Nameoftheirhouse?
Because in that case I'm gonna start using that because one of the houses I grew up in had a name, since it was a tad older.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 165d
I'm not sure, I never met them.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 165d
I vaguelly remember seeing names of royal Prussian houses listed as "von Something", hence my question.
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 165d
The HRE will return in Avengers: Doomsday. I'm positive that Doctor Doom is an elector.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 pts · 165d
That would unironically be a great comic arc
SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu · 6 pts · 166d
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 166d
I've lost count of the Roman Empires that don't include Rome or even any of Italy.
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 166d
Aww shit not Reich again
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 166d
Look, I’ll do it if no one else wants to.
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 166d
Electors Assemble
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 166d
I mean, were there many times when it was legal to abolish a legislation? 😅
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · 2 pts · 164d
Dooo it.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 160d
Oh, hey, that's where my fam's from! I should make a couple calls...
Avicenna@programming.dev · 2 pts · 164d
Let's gooooooo
Klear@quokk.au · 2 pts · 166d
Any country could crown a new Holy Roman Emperor if they really wanted.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 160d
So, China?
GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 166d
All this theories about what conuntry still exists and what not are stupid. In the end it matters who holds the power. Who controls the army and who controls the police. And nothing else matters.
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · 4 pts · 164d
Satire, in my satire community? It's more likely than you think.
You're right, of course (although the HRE is a funny example). Where continuity comes in is convincing the army and police, and the ordinary people who support them economically, to respect your power instead of just totally ignoring you/killing you.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 166d
Yeah obviously. It's just a silly meme