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1 Aleister Crowley – an influential occultist and ceremonial magician.
2 Manly P. Hall – known for writings on esoteric philosophy.
3 Anton LaVey – established modern Satanism.
4 Grigori Rasputin – a controversial spiritual figure in Russian history.
5 Osho – a spiritual teacher known for controversial teachings and communes.
6 Jesus Christ – the foundational figure of Christianity.

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emotional_soup_88@programming.dev · 56 pts · 157d (6 replies)

7 Apophis - once an extremely powerful Goa'uld System Lord. Arch enemy of the Tau'ri, he impersonated the ancient Egyptian deity of chaos, darkness and fire.

EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 157d (3 replies)

Apophis is a false god. Say it with me, it’s what you really believe.

emotional_soup_88@programming.dev · 16 pts · 157d (2 replies)

You will pay for your insolence. With your life.

Zanshi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 156d (1 reply)

Jaffa, kree!

...why aren't you kreeing?!

emotional_soup_88@programming.dev · 3 pts · 156d

We're past such formalities.

TransNeko@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 156d (1 reply)

what about the Ori? or Sokar? or Setesh? or even Bal?

emotional_soup_88@programming.dev · 2 pts · 156d

I shall deal with the Ori after I have conquered the System Lords.

SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 41 pts · 157d (1 reply)

2 Manly P. Hall – known for writings on esoteric philosophy.

That picture is actually of Gerald Gardner, the guy who founded (kind of? Its complicated) the religion of Wicca.

That's literally Gerald's Wikipedia picture, while Manley Hall kina looks like he'd be a groyper twink if he were alive today


To answer the question though, white Jesus easily has the most toxic fan club, by sheer volume of followers.

Anton LaVey was an edgy fuck though, so he probably gets 2nd place for just being kinda cringe ¯_(ツ)_/¯

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 156d

The second guy looks like he smoked a lot of weed.

Godort@lemmy.ca · 38 pts · 157d

Taken per capita, probably LaVey. Taken as "Total harm done" it's Jesus, no contest

CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 157d (1 reply)

Yea, it’s Jesus

humminglady@feddit.online · 20 pts · 157d

I would honestly agree. The fanfiction is getting out of hand.

daannii@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 157d (2 replies)

Jesus while he lived or modern? cause that's two completely different groups of people.

WR5@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 155d (1 reply)

Well sure, otherwise the first group would be really old right now.

daannii@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 155d

I mean most of these people's followers aren't around anymore.

renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 157d

if we're talking about lemmy, it's Stalin

ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 157d (5 replies)

Jesus, by far. The people who have been murdered in his name is probably close to or over a good billion, right?

He's not really a "foundational figure of Christianity" though, his image was just co-opted by the Roman empire which then created the religion also co-opting the actual "Jewish revival" Jesus was at the core of (bringing the fundamentals of monotheism back into mind and expanding the teachings to everyone, not just a small select community).

realitista@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 157d (2 replies)

Not disputing you but I'd be interested in how you arrived at this count.

ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 157d

Completely eyeballed it but I included every Western imperialist project that was done with Bible in hand and chanting variations of "Deus Vult", so that's large chunks of Asia, most of Africa, all of Latin America, and every Western incursion on West Asia from the Crusades to Iran today. And let's not forget the pagan persecution in the West itself by the Romans. That's a shit ton of people through the ages, right?

zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 157d

WAG

bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 156d (1 reply)

Jesus never asked for wars in his name though. It’s not part of his teachings.

Christianity changed a lot once it became the dominant religion of the Roman Empire.

However Christianity also brought a lot of positive social changes with the focus on forgiveness and helping the unfortunate for example.

It was spread by conquest, but also peaceful friendly missionaries. These missionaries often invented a writing system for the illiterate people they visited.

ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 156d

Oh yeah the man was a prophet of peace, I'm not putting it on him. 👍

IntriguedIceberg@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 157d

I'd argue that by mere statistic, Jesus wins this one.

mrmisses@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 157d

Jesus has trump so, jesus

Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 156d (2 replies)

5 has the best quote. I don't agree with the sentiment (most days), but it is absolutely hilarious: " [...] democracy basically means government by the people, of the people, for the people... but the people are... retarded."

UnimportantHuman@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 155d (1 reply)

Just say removed

UnimportantHuman@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 155d

Nvm didn't know lol

bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 156d (2 replies)

Trick question, the answer is always Beyonce

OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 156d (1 reply)

Not Taylor Swift?

bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 156d

You take that back or so help me I will end you

Devconsole@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 157d (2 replies)

Linux

mlg@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 157d (1 reply)

Hey at least its not Windows lol

ignotum@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 157d

Agreed

I use arch btw

_stranger_@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 157d (2 replies)

(explanation: satanists are generally chill, and he looks like Kane 🤣)

lps2@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 156d (1 reply)

CoS/LaVey are more like the petulant libertarian flavor of satanism.

Satanic Temple are the chill ones

_stranger_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 155d

That is excellent information, thank you!

humminglady@feddit.online · 13 pts · 157d (1 reply)

This is a terrifying post to comment on

otacon239@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 157d

[controversial reply with a healthy mix of upvotes and downvotes that’s ambiguous enough that you’re not sure if they’re serious, confused, or bad at sarcasm]

FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 12 pts · 157d

Of the top: Catholicism, evangelicalism, Mormonism, Jehovah’s witnesses,…

I mean this list goes on and on. They all have one guy in common.

notaviking@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 157d (1 reply)

I feel the inclusion of Jesus does this list a disservice, could have been like a Buddha, Mohamed, Jesus.... List and I think that would have been better because of the league Jesus is playing in. Basically skews the list.

But the first 5 in the list is an awesome list to choose from. I would say Rasputin due to the shit show Russia was going to be put through that I feel he was the straw that broke the camel's back and led to cascading events I feel still persists

Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 157d

How large a fan base do most of these have? Should have used Count of St. Germain rather then Jesus, though.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 157d (1 reply)

Lol Anton LeVay was such an edgy loser

ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 156d

A carney mentalist who became a sex pope?

What did he lose?

agent_nycto@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 157d (1 reply)

Which one has people knocking on my door again?

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 156d

That's probably those damned Rasputin's Witnesses.

sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 157d (2 replies)

Anton LaVey's crowd are chill as hell. Just a little cringe but whomst amogus has not had notions of doing catholic mass naked except for a mask and a cape?

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 156d (1 reply)

That's like defending Christianity based on the charity and love. Yeah they've got some awesome bits, the problem is that they has to mix Ayn Rand bs into their ritual orgies

sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 156d

Except when christians pull us all into their baggage it's purging the various impure people or an oil war to try and kick off their stupid little apocalypse.

When LaVeyans are being their most toxic it looks this:

Like, yeah he's doing a stupid little hierarchy but where on that hierarchy does Pajama Satan sit?

itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 157d (3 replies)

For fuck sake, blond Jesus? This is (one of many) proof(s) that they are worshiping imaginary god and his son. They imagine the son with blond hair, I am guessing speaking English and talking about America.

Sergio@piefed.social · 12 pts · 156d

pjwestin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 157d

Blond Jesus has a way more toxic following than Historically Accurate Jesus.

bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 156d

There are blond people in the Levant.

wer2@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 156d

Marie Curie's fans are practically radioactive.

daggermoon@piefed.world · 5 pts · 157d

I don't know but I find number three wildly amusing. Some parts of my former edgy 16 year old libertarian atheist refuse to die.

ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 157d

You

Aeao@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 156d

Colin Mockery in square one.

AstroLightz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 157d

Underdale and Deltatune for sure

Techromantik@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 157d (2 replies)

3 Belief in or acknowledgment of a satan just reinforces and legitimizes christianity.

agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 157d (1 reply)

LaVeyan satanists aren't deistic, they don't actually believe in Satan.

Techromantik@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 156d

They don’t need to.

bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 156d

I recommend studying Crowley and Osho.

halfeatenpotato@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 156d

#6 m'lord

OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 157d

... we all know the answer 😶

Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 155d

No people of color? WTF racist