I was reticent to post this, given that it's based off of one person's hearsay. What tipped me over is that it is confirmation of stories also relayed by Palestinian prisoners in the fall of 2025 (linked in the article) about the goings on in the Sde Teiman torture camp.
Al-Jazeera by the way reports that the IDF soldiers who were at the center of a very public case of gruesome sexual abuse of prisoners in the same torture camp are returning to duty.
End the genocidal Israeli apartheid regime. Boycott Divest Sanction. Criminals at the Hague.
Yes, someone who could not possibly have heard the Palestinian allegations has come forward to say they are true.
Of the two guards he spoke to, “one had seen this happen and said it was too awful to talk about. The other said that he had heard about it from others and believed it was true. This happened. This is happening still. The evidence is too overwhelming.”
I wouldn't call this overwhelming evidence. Could it have happened? Painfully, yes. Should an article have been published that guards have admitted this happens? Not on this evidence.
War crimes apparently, the type of man made horrors beyond most human's comprehension. I don't get how we have such a large delta with the horrors preformed by israel and the coverage of the nation in the west. Being called anti-Semitic for calling out using dog rape as a tool to torture prisoners seems a bit bizarre.
People used to call those who spreads news of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion anti-Semitic as well. All those people were doing was calling out consuming the blood of kidnapped Christian children. How can you be for the murder of those innocent Christian kids?
Western "civilization" reaction to Israel and Russia are amazing. If this were Russian we will see these war crimes in every media 24h , while with Israel, you get arrested or questioned for denouncing the crimes.
Obscure self styled human rights organizations are often used to launder information and give it more credibility. This isn’t HRW, Amnesty, or B’Tselem. They aren’t perfect either, but more credible.
"geopolitical expert" it says. Here's his Google scholar page. Seems legit. I mean I guess he is still "a guy on twitter", in that he has a Twitter account
Novara Media is a socialist news organization, so they definitely have a bias, but their informational reporting is no less credible than the BBC or Guardian. They have a decently large presence in the UK.
Why would their factual reporting not be reliable? Their core audience is extremely well educated who would not tolerate blatant falsehoods like right-wing tabloid audiences do.
And yet, everybody smashed upvote on this rage bait without reading it. Education and wealth only gets you so far.
TBF they didn't really make direct factual claims here, they just quoted the sources, so even if it's not true it's not a lie. I'm not sure how often Fox News just straight up lies either.
You're wrong. I've been reading/listening to Novara every day for over five years. They are left wing in opinion, and 100% factual in their reporting. They are more responsible about correcting errors than the BBC or the Guardian. As the other response, I would have ditched them at any point if I found them to be dishonest.
How can you take part in subjecting other people to this kind of thing and still think you are justified in doing it? People that almost certainly had nothing to do personally with what your beef is with the more extreme members of their factions. They also can't think that this serves any point other than to be sadistic, if your goal was complete annihilation you would just shoot them.
They dont see them as equal humans-- its just "livestock" raping "livestock". They think the same of most everyone else including their "allies"-- its not just racism against Palestinians. They are supremacists, and they feel they are far above all the humans across the entire world. Their god revealed himself only to them because everyone else was inferior and unworthy.
Somehow this is still a taboo topic, but Israel doesnt acknowledge universal human rights for anyone. According to Jewish teachings there are goy and Jews, thats it. Its binary.
The horrors you commit in service of God. I know not what I believe as far as theology goes, but if there is any sort of benevolent god or gods, these people are going to face the worst punishment they have. If there are no gods, may this world give them the punishment they deserve, as unlikely as that may be. Organized religion is the worst thing to ever befall humanity, and it may wind up being the end of us someday. These actions would have made even most Nazis skittish.
This is a story told to us. The reality is religion has very little bearing on geopolitics, genocide and modern warfare. It is often used to demonize a group (think Muslim terrorists) and to rally people to a side without questioning why.
Religion isn't the cause, it is just another convenient excuse.
Presumably the Lemmy.world mods who have been criticised for silencing pro-Palestinian voices and pushing pro-Israeli messaging since October 2023.
Well known Zionists such as JordanLund and Gedaliyah who operate world and news. Backed by an admin team who have come to defend them at every criticism and taken only tokenistic action against them to ease public anger.
Search their names on YPTB, their histories are well documented.
It's based on one user interviewing another user who said it definitely happened. It was corroborated by a third user who said he had heard from others that it happens.
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KoboldCoterie@pawb.social · 208 pts · 107d
What the fuck
BestBouclettes@jlai.lu · 138 pts · 107d
And that's what we know, imagine all the things that will probably never get out.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 47 pts · 107d
Like the Palestinians... https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/israel-passes-mandatory-death-penalty-for-palestinians-convicted-of-terrorism-flouting-international-law-and-drawing-widespread-condemnation
homes@piefed.world · 9 pts · 107d
literally
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 197 pts · 107d
I was reticent to post this, given that it's based off of one person's hearsay. What tipped me over is that it is confirmation of stories also relayed by Palestinian prisoners in the fall of 2025 (linked in the article) about the goings on in the Sde Teiman torture camp.
Al-Jazeera by the way reports that the IDF soldiers who were at the center of a very public case of gruesome sexual abuse of prisoners in the same torture camp are returning to duty.
End the genocidal Israeli apartheid regime. Boycott Divest Sanction. Criminals at the Hague.
Triumph@fedia.io · 57 pts · 107d
Thank you for the context. It's important.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 4 pts · 107d
Yes, someone who could not possibly have heard the Palestinian allegations has come forward to say they are true.
I wouldn't call this overwhelming evidence. Could it have happened? Painfully, yes. Should an article have been published that guards have admitted this happens? Not on this evidence.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 107d
i think regardless of the veracity of the article, the fact that israel has a TORTURE CAMP is something that should be highlighted
AmidFuror@fedia.io · -5 pts · 107d
I don't think that's the official name.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 107d
That would be funny.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 101d
Fuckin lol
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 106d
The rules of courtroom evidence cannot be the rules for journalism, or we would NEVER hear about atrocities like this.
Dreamer@lemmy.ml · 34 pts · 107d
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/7022/%E2%80%9CAnother-genocide-behind-walls%E2%80%9D:-New-report-documents-testimonies-of-rape-and-sexual-violence-in-Israeli-prisons
Dogs used as tools of rape are mentioned multiple times in the report.
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 106d
That’s not a credible human rights organization. HRW or Amnesty are credible.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 106d
Who says they are not a credible organization?
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · 1 pts · 105d
The dog owners.
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 93d
They don’t even pretend to be objective. Compare their reports with ones written by HRW or AI and you will see for yourself how they operate.
Their reports on other countries in the region are comparatively sparse.
https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/euro-med-human-rights-monitor/
ProfThadBach@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 107d
I am tired boss. I am tired.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 47 pts · 107d
What the dog doin'?
War crimes apparently, the type of man made horrors beyond most human's comprehension. I don't get how we have such a large delta with the horrors preformed by israel and the coverage of the nation in the west. Being called anti-Semitic for calling out using dog rape as a tool to torture prisoners seems a bit bizarre.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · -33 pts · 106d
People used to call those who spreads news of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion anti-Semitic as well. All those people were doing was calling out consuming the blood of kidnapped Christian children. How can you be for the murder of those innocent Christian kids?
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 16 pts · 106d
What? No really, what are you talking about?
RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 106d
It is chumming for racists to change the subject hiding as dark sarcasm
Bristlecone@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 106d
No dude what the actual fuck
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club · 41 pts · 106d
Using DOGS to RAPE people is CLEARLY spelt out in the TORAH you ANTI SEMITE!
-The BBC!
Doorbook@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 106d
Western "civilization" reaction to Israel and Russia are amazing. If this were Russian we will see these war crimes in every media 24h , while with Israel, you get arrested or questioned for denouncing the crimes.
Steve@startrek.website · 37 pts · 107d
Israel should be disarmed.
Tolc@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 107d
*dissolved
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · 33 pts · 107d
"Source I've never seen claims someone on Twitter heard something outrageous from an anonymous source"
Did this happen? Maybe. Is this upvoted solely because of people's pre-existing biases? Yup.
crapwittyname@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 106d
One source appears to be the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights. It says in the article.
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 106d
Where did they get the information from?
Obscure self styled human rights organizations are often used to launder information and give it more credibility. This isn’t HRW, Amnesty, or B’Tselem. They aren’t perfect either, but more credible.
crapwittyname@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 106d
They got the information from someone who was raped by a dog. It says in the article.
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · -5 pts · 106d
The analyst in "says analyst" was a guy on Twitter.
It is mentioned that PCHR recorded similar testimony from a Palestinian source later on.
Again, maybe, maybe not.
crapwittyname@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 106d
"geopolitical expert" it says. Here's his Google scholar page. Seems legit. I mean I guess he is still "a guy on twitter", in that he has a Twitter account
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 106d
Novara Media is a socialist news organization, so they definitely have a bias, but their informational reporting is no less credible than the BBC or Guardian. They have a decently large presence in the UK.
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · -8 pts · 106d
X to doubt.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 106d
Why would their factual reporting not be reliable? Their core audience is extremely well educated who would not tolerate blatant falsehoods like right-wing tabloid audiences do.
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · -8 pts · 106d
And yet, everybody smashed upvote on this rage bait without reading it. Education and wealth only gets you so far.
TBF they didn't really make direct factual claims here, they just quoted the sources, so even if it's not true it's not a lie. I'm not sure how often Fox News just straight up lies either.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 105d
Fox News lies often. And the BBC does this kind of thing all the time.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 105d
crapwittyname@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 106d
You're wrong. I've been reading/listening to Novara every day for over five years. They are left wing in opinion, and 100% factual in their reporting. They are more responsible about correcting errors than the BBC or the Guardian. As the other response, I would have ditched them at any point if I found them to be dishonest.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 6 pts · 106d
Ragebait works on everyone. You just need to know what buttons to push.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 106d
Honestly, I hope this one is fake. It's fucked up if real.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 105d
I can offer up a story on it from a British Business magazine, if the Novara source seems biased or uncredible.
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/un-report-systematic-sexual-violence-israeli-detention-1792474
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · -1 pts · 104d
Cool, thanks.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 106d
How can you take part in subjecting other people to this kind of thing and still think you are justified in doing it? People that almost certainly had nothing to do personally with what your beef is with the more extreme members of their factions. They also can't think that this serves any point other than to be sadistic, if your goal was complete annihilation you would just shoot them.
I mean, holy fuck.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 102d
They dont see them as equal humans-- its just "livestock" raping "livestock". They think the same of most everyone else including their "allies"-- its not just racism against Palestinians. They are supremacists, and they feel they are far above all the humans across the entire world. Their god revealed himself only to them because everyone else was inferior and unworthy.
Somehow this is still a taboo topic, but Israel doesnt acknowledge universal human rights for anyone. According to Jewish teachings there are goy and Jews, thats it. Its binary.
https://archive.ph/rtKW6
and
https://www.yeshiva.co/ask/5200
shiv@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 106d
Rooting for Israel to get nuked at this point.
discocactus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 106d
That's the goal from the US evangelical point of view. Makes you think.
Blursty@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 106d
Rooting for us all to get nuked in the west tbh.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 22 pts · 106d
Who thought that the lesson they would take away from the Holocaust would be to "Pay it forward?"
HrabiaVulpes@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 106d
A sentence I neither expected to see nor wanted to.
Like unholy shit, what the hell is going on with those people?
MyOpinion@lemmy.today · 20 pts · 107d
Just disgusting.
tostos@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 107d
i have no words
absolutetupperware@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 107d
absolutetupperware@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 107d
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 106d
Scams are widespread, especially on social media.
There’s also a long tradition of smaller organizations collecting money for Palestinian children, and then the money is funneled to Hamas.
If you want to donate, great, but be careful where you send your money. There are legitimate aid organizations as well.
Cadus does fantastic work in Gaza, Ukraine, and elsewhere. They don’t have such a huge overhead of promoters and admin like other organizations.
RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 106d
Can't say shit about Isreal even though they're fucked up like this
AdamBomb@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 107d
Unconscionable
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 106d
I really should have just went to sleep.
Absolutely abhorrent.
Good night, everyone.
Also here's a topical petition
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2025/000005_en
Tolc@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 107d
They are holding biggest LGBT event or somethin in middle east in coming week ig so it makes it all good
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 9 pts · 107d
Whatthefuck
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 107d
I feel sorry for the dogs. The IDF could add some chapters to their SS and NKVD manuals. Disgusting, sick and evil creatures.
Vieric@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 106d
The horrors you commit in service of God. I know not what I believe as far as theology goes, but if there is any sort of benevolent god or gods, these people are going to face the worst punishment they have. If there are no gods, may this world give them the punishment they deserve, as unlikely as that may be. Organized religion is the worst thing to ever befall humanity, and it may wind up being the end of us someday. These actions would have made even most Nazis skittish.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 105d
Ngl I am pretty disilluisoned with the whole "Both sides are fighting for religious reasons" thing.
Israel is fighting because zionists are colonizer nazis and palestine is fighting because Israel is colonizer nazis.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 105d
This is a story told to us. The reality is religion has very little bearing on geopolitics, genocide and modern warfare. It is often used to demonize a group (think Muslim terrorists) and to rally people to a side without questioning why.
Religion isn't the cause, it is just another convenient excuse.
northface@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 105d
I completely agree, but I don't see where GP would imply Palestine is fighting for religious reasons.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 106d
War crime Nr. … how much already?
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 106d
-2147483648
UndergroundParking@lemmy.cafe · 7 pts · 106d
Admittedly, I'm not going to read this.
How is it even possible?! On the physical level.
wabafee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 105d
Wtf
GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 106d
This some Dirlewanger level shit
Eddbopkins@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 106d
SculptusPoe@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 107d
antisoumerde@quokk.au · -9 pts · 107d
Lehmuusa@nord.pub · 17 pts · 107d
What mod actions are you referring to?
Domino@quokk.au · 20 pts · 107d
Presumably the Lemmy.world mods who have been criticised for silencing pro-Palestinian voices and pushing pro-Israeli messaging since October 2023.
Well known Zionists such as JordanLund and Gedaliyah who operate world and news. Backed by an admin team who have come to defend them at every criticism and taken only tokenistic action against them to ease public anger.
Search their names on YPTB, their histories are well documented.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · -12 pts · 107d
It's based on one user interviewing another user who said it definitely happened. It was corroborated by a third user who said he had heard from others that it happens.
SippyCup@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 107d
Can confirm. I heard it from a user who heard it from another guy who said he saw it online.