Damn I really remember none of Trigun, and it was one of my favorites when it came out. I should do a rewatch now that it’s been… oh god like two decades?
Ahhh it’ll feel very nostalgic for me then! I grew up on 80s and 90s anime~ I recall the dub’s voice acting being stellar, but maybe it hits differently with how great voice acting has become over the years.
There's a little bit of the "screechy tsundere" voice here and there going on that was pretty common at the time, but a lot less than most shows of the era. Beyond that, the dub is great, imo.
Yeah, it for sure is not as good. It’s missing the dramatic tone shift of the first, that made it so iconic. Though the Eriks bit at the start of season 2 I feel was done a lot better than the original, plus some other things were done well. Plus it does go more into angels, wolfwood’s genetic mutation, and more of the characters that were left out from the manga in the 2nd season.
Read somewhere that's because the mangas in the store just show the title at the front. By putting the whole story premise into the title prospective buyers can see at a glance what the book is about without picking it up.
Give it a little time and books will be intriguing again with a mysterious short title.
That's partially true. It's because the web novel that the manga is adapted from used the premise as a title for optimized SEO so that their story can be seen by more readers.
Makes it a massive pain in the ass to find them on watch/read tracking websites, especially when they have those ~ and 《》in the title (or subtitle). As an avid Manga reader, I have started skipping those series because, more often than not, they are just as uncreative as their titles. SEO or not, a good story will be spread by word of mouth. These writers are just screaming they don't have confidence in what they are creating.
Might start a web series called "My journey into becoming a mangaka online but the evil CEO of 《SEO CORP》has stolen my creativity and now I must fight an army of robots!"
Whatever the hell people would expect from that title, it won't be that.
Exactly I've never found one of these long titles stories that weren't mid, and if they are good the fandom will come up with a short name for it so you don't have to deal with the long one
I'm just repeating a thing I read elsewhere, but I heard it's not strictly SEO optimization in the classic Google rank sense, it's that the most popular webcomic portal in Japan doesn't include descriptions in its browse page.
Or maybe you just need things to be a bit more self-referential, so there's alwaysPounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Book 'Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Book 'Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Own Butt"'"'
There is now so much manga and light novel titles that I kinda understand why they do this. It is hard to decide what to even click on, and if I can't even tell what genre it is from the title or cover picture, I'm less likely to check it out
I am waiting for the title "I just turned into my fursona and am trapped in another world living my pansexual dream." I'd read/watch that one no questions asked.
Trying to be unique in a largely crowded endeavor like Japanese manga is a very difficult game. Like choosing names for one's creations. So some authors have to resort to using bewildering longer titles if only to stand out, and it gets weirder in very prolific manga subgenres such as a harem romcom.
I faintly remember about Japanese creatives -- and some businessmen -- trying to find naming inspirations from practically anywhere -- a favorite movie, actor, athlete, an odd quote, a catchy phrase in French or Italian (there is heavy use of "atelier"), etc. -- for which to name their next work, not just manga but Japanese product names and trademarks in general; a girl's fashion brand over there which had taken a "Cecil McBee" as its trademark without the knowledge of the actual musician bearing that name (he was informed of it, got surprised, then tried unsuccessfully to sue in court).
I think it has more to do with them being adaptations of web novels. I can only assume that at some point there was a meta that evolved around naming web novels something wordy and specific to either stand out from the crowd, let readers know what the series was about, or both.
Disclaimer: I don't read web novels, could be way off.
Its the same here in the west. Webcomics, web novels, fan fic. It all has the same problem. Its rather funny how people have only really started to notice the increase in title length when it started hitting manga/anime.
Each region has like 1 maybe 2 websites that host 99% of them. Lots of them straight up don't allow the same name for two projects. Even for the ones that do allow duplicate names you would get harassed or attacked by the primary users if you copied the name of a popular series. So as time has gone on, all the short names are taken. And you have to make up longer and longer names.
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Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 185 pts · 140d
Hydrii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 66 pts · 140d
I think it checks out he's got his revolver, arm gun thing, then the beam cannon thing
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 32 pts · 140d
Damn I really remember none of Trigun, and it was one of my favorites when it came out. I should do a rewatch now that it’s been… oh god like two decades?
Godort@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 140d
It's still fun, but it's very 90s
saltesc@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 140d
Just like Tubthumping
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 140d
Ahhh it’ll feel very nostalgic for me then! I grew up on 80s and 90s anime~ I recall the dub’s voice acting being stellar, but maybe it hits differently with how great voice acting has become over the years.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 140d
There's a little bit of the "screechy tsundere" voice here and there going on that was pretty common at the time, but a lot less than most shows of the era. Beyond that, the dub is great, imo.
TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 140d
They did just do a uh reboot? I guess. It’s not the same but it ain’t bad. Some stuff it did better some stuff worse, still suggest the original tho.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 140d
I couldn't watch the reboot. I have too much love for the original that I couldn't make it through more than 4 episodes
TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 140d
Yeah, it for sure is not as good. It’s missing the dramatic tone shift of the first, that made it so iconic. Though the Eriks bit at the start of season 2 I feel was done a lot better than the original, plus some other things were done well. Plus it does go more into angels, wolfwood’s genetic mutation, and more of the characters that were left out from the manga in the 2nd season.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
I am far from the world's biggest trigun fan, but after an extremely brief search they completely changed the only part of trigun I liked, the intro.
Did I research this wrong or is that what they did?
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 140d
The beam cannon is just his arm and gun super Angel fusion.
I thought the three guns were the two revolvers and his arm pistol
thirstyhyena@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
Some said the third gun is Wolfwoods cross, but that theory only works for the anime.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 140d
Idk I never watched it for real. I just remember the theme song .... dabududa dibidibidaow dibididibi daow Daba dibidibidaow d-dap daow
rockerface@lemmy.cafe · 58 pts · 140d
lime@feddit.nu · 14 pts · 140d
> show is called fruits basket
> look inside
> oh no
Saapas@piefed.zip · 37 pts · 140d
Maybe it's about testing a gun
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 31 pts · 140d
No sword? Trigun!
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 140d
Gun or gun not. There is no tri.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 22 pts · 140d
> Movie is called Weathering With You
> Look inside
> No particular focus on erosion
ICastFist@programming.dev · 8 pts · 140d
Nor does the gun have 3 barrels
Donebrach@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
Could argue he does. Pistol, arm, big laser arm.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 140d
Edit: should have scrolled down, somebody already said ir
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 140d
?
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 167 pts · 140d
Keeping original posters' credit intact is cool.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 140d
Who else scrolled up to see if it was beep?
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 26 pts · 140d
✋
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 63 pts · 140d
Read somewhere that's because the mangas in the store just show the title at the front. By putting the whole story premise into the title prospective buyers can see at a glance what the book is about without picking it up.
Give it a little time and books will be intriguing again with a mysterious short title.
Godort@lemmy.ca · 53 pts · 140d
That's partially true. It's because the web novel that the manga is adapted from used the premise as a title for optimized SEO so that their story can be seen by more readers.
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 140d
It's awesome practice. I don't read manga, but do watch the anime adaptations. It gives you exactly what it says on the tin. I love it.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 139d
Some can get a short name after some time. Like
And others have a short name followed by a longer one like
shirasho@feddit.online · 14 pts · 140d
Makes it a massive pain in the ass to find them on watch/read tracking websites, especially when they have those ~ and 《》in the title (or subtitle). As an avid Manga reader, I have started skipping those series because, more often than not, they are just as uncreative as their titles. SEO or not, a good story will be spread by word of mouth. These writers are just screaming they don't have confidence in what they are creating.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 4 pts · 140d
Might start a web series called "My journey into becoming a mangaka online but the evil CEO of 《SEO CORP》has stolen my creativity and now I must fight an army of robots!"
Whatever the hell people would expect from that title, it won't be that.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
Exactly I've never found one of these long titles stories that weren't mid, and if they are good the fandom will come up with a short name for it so you don't have to deal with the long one
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 140d
I'm just repeating a thing I read elsewhere, but I heard it's not strictly SEO optimization in the classic Google rank sense, it's that the most popular webcomic portal in Japan doesn't include descriptions in its browse page.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 140d
"Poop Gun"
Wait, so is the gun made of poop? Does it fire poop bullets?
Then the sequal:
"Oscillating doormat"
Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 140d
Sounds like Chinese tattoos on Americans who've never left their home state.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 4 pts · 140d
Is it related to Diarrhea 4?
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 139d
Or the word avalanche will spread to other media
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 139d
That sounds like the PG version of Chuck Tingle titles.
Of course with AI it's impossible to tell which covers are real without going to a site with a definitive list, but I confirmed this one
katze@lemmy.4d2.org · 2 pts · 139d
No way this is real
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 139d
Perhaps the Mothman sexiness is too overwhelming? That's ok, you can always go with Not Pounded In The Butt By My Book 'Not Pounded In The Butt By Anything And That's Okay' And That's Okay
Or maybe you just need things to be a bit more self-referential, so there's always Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Book 'Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Book 'Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Own Butt"'"'
katze@lemmy.4d2.org · 3 pts · 138d
I see that you are an expert in literature and a connoisseur when it comes to these things.
krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 140d
I remember, didn't britaun used to do that too during the early 1900s?
Haquer@lemmy.today · 35 pts · 140d
LaMouette@jlai.lu · 10 pts · 140d
Despite the name, this manga is rad !
Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 140d
Oh, is this the one that inspired Mickey 17?
gajahmada@awful.systems · 13 pts · 140d
Isn't Tom Cruise's Edge of Tomorrow a direct adaptation of this manga?
But if it's just inspired, I could also see the connection.
Haquer@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 140d
It's based on it, so not direct but as close as they could get in a movie I feel.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 139d
No edge of tomorrow is the movie based on this, there's also a anime adaptation I think
Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 139d
Oh yes Edge of Tomorrow makes sense, my bad. I've seen both and mixed them up.
exist@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 140d
There is now so much manga and light novel titles that I kinda understand why they do this. It is hard to decide what to even click on, and if I can't even tell what genre it is from the title or cover picture, I'm less likely to check it out
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 10 pts · 140d
I am waiting for the title "I just turned into my fursona and am trapped in another world living my pansexual dream." I'd read/watch that one no questions asked.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 139d
OP left out the Adjective Noun Fred naming convention that lasted from the late 70s through the late 90s
Mobile Suit Gundam
Irresponsible Captain Tylor
Pretty (However they translated Senshi this time) Sailor Moon
Samurai Pizza Cats
Space Runaway Ideon
Devil Hunter Yohko
and on and on and on.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 139d
half of that isn’t an adjective
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 139d
I didn't name it. It's probably more accurate to call it Descriptor Noun Fred.
Though none of them are a Fred.
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
Okay but Devil Hunter Yohko is an actual nice name
qarbone@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
Isn't that just an extension of the "Blood Joe" referenced in the OP?
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 140d
Trying to be unique in a largely crowded endeavor like Japanese manga is a very difficult game. Like choosing names for one's creations. So some authors have to resort to using bewildering longer titles if only to stand out, and it gets weirder in very prolific manga subgenres such as a harem romcom.
I faintly remember about Japanese creatives -- and some businessmen -- trying to find naming inspirations from practically anywhere -- a favorite movie, actor, athlete, an odd quote, a catchy phrase in French or Italian (there is heavy use of "atelier"), etc. -- for which to name their next work, not just manga but Japanese product names and trademarks in general; a girl's fashion brand over there which had taken a "Cecil McBee" as its trademark without the knowledge of the actual musician bearing that name (he was informed of it, got surprised, then tried unsuccessfully to sue in court).
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 140d
The long title trend started with web novels that had to grab people's attention among a text list of other titles.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 139d
This entire post is the title of a short light novel series about anthropomorphic honeybees.
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 139d
Monster would be titled "Do no harm! Unless I save the wrong life, I guess!!!"
QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 140d
I would read the HELL out of Blood Joe!!!
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 140d
Could someone link the stepsister slime girls manga, so I can make fun of it?
AzuraTheSpellkissed@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 140d
For academical research
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 140d
Closes I could find was Killer Joe.
QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
A Minecraft entity? I wasn't expecting that! XD
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 140d
My favorite animes from the era remain:
Samurai Pizza Cats, City Hunter, You're Under Arrest!
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 139d
Where can I watch "Blood Joe Dating Two Slime Stepsisters At The Same Time"?
Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 139d
Hey, give them some slack, they’ve got to stand out among the sea of mediocre titles.
m3t00@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
moore's manga law
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 139d
I think that's because they are Korean but I could be mistaken
jacecomix@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 139d
I think it has more to do with them being adaptations of web novels. I can only assume that at some point there was a meta that evolved around naming web novels something wordy and specific to either stand out from the crowd, let readers know what the series was about, or both.
Disclaimer: I don't read web novels, could be way off.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 139d
Its the same here in the west. Webcomics, web novels, fan fic. It all has the same problem. Its rather funny how people have only really started to notice the increase in title length when it started hitting manga/anime.
Each region has like 1 maybe 2 websites that host 99% of them. Lots of them straight up don't allow the same name for two projects. Even for the ones that do allow duplicate names you would get harassed or attacked by the primary users if you copied the name of a popular series. So as time has gone on, all the short names are taken. And you have to make up longer and longer names.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 139d
No, but it could be related to light novels? Since there are more and more mangas based on light novels.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 139d
Yes I think that's what I meant and then mixed up light novels with manwas