I feel like this movie is coming like a decade or 2 too late to hit the right audience. Like, those people who would get nostalgia baited for watching this cartoon as kids are nearing 50. Their own kids are already grown up, so they're not catching a new generation either.
The first transformers came out 19 years ago and did not have as long a gap in franchise presence, as we had beast wars in the 90s, and a continuous comics run.
It’s also one of the weirder/dumber cartoons from any era.
Sword-wielding barbarian hero, spaceships, scary skeleton villain, green tiger. It feels like a toy company took a bunch unused action figure ideas and said “make a cartoon out this so we can sell them.”
There was an animated series in the early 2000s (it was excellent), Netflix did Kevin Smith's version (also excellent), there was a 3D animated show aimed explicitly at kids (not for me), AND She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (*chef's kiss*).
The Kevin Smith obe was excellent? I don't remember much of it, but i found it really bad and somehow the guy who's name is in the title was hardly in it. I thought it was generally nit well received
It's called Masters of the Universe, there's no guy's name in it. It had the same problem as any show/movie that puts a woman at the centre.
Edit: sorry, this might not have been clear enough. I'm not suggesting you didn't like it because there's a woman at the centre but I was referring to how the "public" (aka a loud part of the internet) received it.
More recently there was a Masters of the Universe cartoon that started 2021. I heard it was meh but it was apparently successful enough to run for 3 seasons and wrap up the story. I think this thread underestimates how big of a franchise it still is.
Yeah, that's why I said "technically". Also while reading up on this, I learned that the film/TV rights to he-man and She-Ra are owned by two separate companies. They couldn't appear together unless Mattel and DreamWorks decided to work together - Source
There have been Transformers shows and toys almost continuously since the 80s. There us maybe a vague gap between G1 and Beast Wars aside from the nebulous G2.
But one following right after we had
Beast Wars, Beast Machines, RID2000(Car Robots), Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, Movie1, Prime, More Movies, Robots in Disguise, Earthspark, etc etc
Plus several toddler tier shows like Rescue Bots. And several Youtube web mini shows.
Thats not even getting to the toy lines. For at least a decade Transformers has had like 5 lines going on shelves. The toddler line, the simple kiddie line, a more complex "Classics" line for older collectors, some sort of movie themed line, some sort of specialty line like Masterpiece.
Sorry for the long rant, and its nothing personal, it just seems funny anytime Transformers comes up and people act like it was G1 then the movies. Transformers has never gone away ever since it started.
Besides his wierd homophobic church, it was a gradual shift, as he put less and less efforts in his roles.
Just watch the Lego movie, he is a joy, you can feel his character come alive. same with the first Guardians of the Galaxy. Now compare with Mario movie.
I had no idea about the homophobic church... and yes, the latests roles were terrible but so were the movies.. I doubt you can squeeze much from the multicolour hallucination that is the Mario movie hahahaha... I just assumed they were shitty movies so everyone involved was just phoning it in
Jack Black did put some effort as a voice actor. that's why all memes from that movie were from Bowser. The movies were bland, but Chris Pratt was also flat.
I saw the trailer in theatres and I was so so so soooo unimpressed with the lead role. Prince Adam being a thin pretty boy is fine, but post transformation I think actually looks even thinner, somehow.
its the avengers style that put me off in the trailer. not just the poster style but the pushed off humor. why is adam making fun of his subjects racial aspects? he pretended to be incompetent in the cartoon sure, but in a self depreciating way. even he would not make fun of thing related to responsibilities like that.
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ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 42 pts · 123d
I feel like this movie is coming like a decade or 2 too late to hit the right audience. Like, those people who would get nostalgia baited for watching this cartoon as kids are nearing 50. Their own kids are already grown up, so they're not catching a new generation either.
The first transformers came out 19 years ago and did not have as long a gap in franchise presence, as we had beast wars in the 90s, and a continuous comics run.
This just seems to be a weird choice...
LordMayor@piefed.social · 20 pts · 123d
It’s also one of the weirder/dumber cartoons from any era.
Sword-wielding barbarian hero, spaceships, scary skeleton villain, green tiger. It feels like a toy company took a bunch unused action figure ideas and said “make a cartoon out this so we can sell them.”
Why not Space Ghost? That would cooler.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 24 pts · 123d
Literally what they did.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 123d
Omg that makes so much sense! I was always like “wtf is this place even meant to be?” - though it does kind of have the vibe of 80s Flash Gordon.
xbeam@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 123d
That is literally what it was. It was commisioned by Mattel to sell the toy line after the FCC relaxed regulations on marketing to kids.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 123d
Yeah I had no idea there were spaceships in this until I saw the trailer. I assumed it was basically a kid friendly Conan
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 10 pts · 123d
There was an animated series in the early 2000s (it was excellent), Netflix did Kevin Smith's version (also excellent), there was a 3D animated show aimed explicitly at kids (not for me), AND She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (*chef's kiss*).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_the_Universe_(comics)
FatVegan@leminal.space · 3 pts · 122d
The Kevin Smith obe was excellent? I don't remember much of it, but i found it really bad and somehow the guy who's name is in the title was hardly in it. I thought it was generally nit well received
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 2 pts · 122d
It's called Masters of the Universe, there's no guy's name in it. It had the same problem as any show/movie that puts a woman at the centre.
Edit: sorry, this might not have been clear enough. I'm not suggesting you didn't like it because there's a woman at the centre but I was referring to how the "public" (aka a loud part of the internet) received it.
jacksilver@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 123d
There was technically the fairly successful She-Ra show on Netflix, but I think that had a very different target audience than this movie.
popcar2@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 123d
More recently there was a Masters of the Universe cartoon that started 2021. I heard it was meh but it was apparently successful enough to run for 3 seasons and wrap up the story. I think this thread underestimates how big of a franchise it still is.
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 2 pts · 123d
It was completely detached from He-man and stood alone on it's own merit.
jacksilver@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 123d
Yeah, that's why I said "technically". Also while reading up on this, I learned that the film/TV rights to he-man and She-Ra are owned by two separate companies. They couldn't appear together unless Mattel and DreamWorks decided to work together - Source
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 123d
Yeah I highly doubt anyone not already in the know is going to make that connection.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 123d
I'm not 50, but I have a lot of love for He-Man.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 123d
But are you nearing 50?
Dasus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 123d
I'm less than 40 and love He-Man. And She-Ra.
I can hear the gif. Loudly.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 123d
Cool. I don't think I used any superlative adjectives like "only/every". You're definitely not among the majority of those who watched this as kids.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 123d
Idk man, it was pretty popular over here. We got it years late due to being a small European country probably.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 123d
Me too and I grew up on this cartoon. But these movie is garbage and will not waste my time or money on it.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 123d
I’m one of the old bastards who was there for the cartoon and I’d rather watch the “What’s Up?” video than a live-action movie nowadays.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 122d
Yeah I to was around when this show aired in the 80s and even as a kid I realized how shit this show was.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 122d
Still, the kid at the house my mum dropped me at before school had Castle Greyskull and that was pretty boss.
RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 1 pts · 122d
There have been Transformers shows and toys almost continuously since the 80s. There us maybe a vague gap between G1 and Beast Wars aside from the nebulous G2.
But one following right after we had
Beast Wars, Beast Machines, RID2000(Car Robots), Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, Movie1, Prime, More Movies, Robots in Disguise, Earthspark, etc etc
Plus several toddler tier shows like Rescue Bots. And several Youtube web mini shows.
Thats not even getting to the toy lines. For at least a decade Transformers has had like 5 lines going on shelves. The toddler line, the simple kiddie line, a more complex "Classics" line for older collectors, some sort of movie themed line, some sort of specialty line like Masterpiece.
Sorry for the long rant, and its nothing personal, it just seems funny anytime Transformers comes up and people act like it was G1 then the movies. Transformers has never gone away ever since it started.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 122d
Uh... That was literally the opposite of the point I made.
Transformers was the benchmark I was comparing He-man to.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 122d
The new netflix series seems quite popular. So there are certainly still interest in the franchise.
RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 123d
Looks terrible. How does Jared Leto continue to get roles like this?
Jhex@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 123d
I wish I had not known it was Leto ruining my beloved Skeletor character
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 123d
Could have been worse, it could have been Chris Pratt
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 123d
Omg. Have those two ever been in the same movie? I sincerely hope not.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 122d
I may be out of the loop but when did Chris Pratt became worse than Jared Leto?
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 122d
Besides his wierd homophobic church, it was a gradual shift, as he put less and less efforts in his roles.
Just watch the Lego movie, he is a joy, you can feel his character come alive. same with the first Guardians of the Galaxy. Now compare with Mario movie.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 122d
I had no idea about the homophobic church... and yes, the latests roles were terrible but so were the movies.. I doubt you can squeeze much from the multicolour hallucination that is the Mario movie hahahaha... I just assumed they were shitty movies so everyone involved was just phoning it in
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 122d
Jack Black did put some effort as a voice actor. that's why all memes from that movie were from Bowser. The movies were bland, but Chris Pratt was also flat.
hOrni@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 123d
Notice, how his name is not on the poster.
RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 123d
It's there below the 'I' in Universe.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 122d
The guy must have some massive dirt on big Hollywood people
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 123d
I'm going to pirate this film and still not watch it.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 16 pts · 123d
Legends aren’t born, they’re regurgitated forever.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 123d
If you told me this was the reference mock-up that the ghost of Drew Struzan was going to use to create the real poster, I'd be thrilled.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 6 pts · 123d
I saw the trailer in theatres and I was so so so soooo unimpressed with the lead role. Prince Adam being a thin pretty boy is fine, but post transformation I think actually looks even thinner, somehow.
Also, TF is this Avenger's style poster?
HubertManne@piefed.social · 3 pts · 123d
its the avengers style that put me off in the trailer. not just the poster style but the pushed off humor. why is adam making fun of his subjects racial aspects? he pretended to be incompetent in the cartoon sure, but in a self depreciating way. even he would not make fun of thing related to responsibilities like that.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 123d
Mom, can we have:
Masters of the universe at home:
Railcar8095@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 123d
The one at home is a fake trailer, right? It's 100% slop
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 122d
I dunno that is the main actor but yea I picked the worst image for the lulz
eyes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 122d
Somehow this doesn't feel like it's going to get the She-Ra treatment.
mbp@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 123d
Holy shit this looks so bad lol
BlameTheAntifa@piefed.social · 7 pts · 123d
That why my partner and I are seeing this opening night.
Other than casting Jared Leto and ruining Skeletor’s voice, the film-makers understood their assignment.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 122d
Fuck no!
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 123d
Is that Byron from Mars Attacks?
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 123d
The trailer immediately put me off this movie.
Tiresia@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 123d
Even the non-AI stuff looks AI now.