The phrases "This shit is dope!" and "This dope is shit!" have exact opposite meanings.

The phrases "This shit is dope!" and "This dope is shit!" have exact opposite meanings.

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actionjbone@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 102d (3 replies)

And "this dope is the shit" means "this shit is dope."

However, "this shit is the dope" does not mean "this dope is shit."

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 102d (2 replies)

But if this shit is the dope, pretty good chance that the dope is shit.

realitista@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 101d

But in the case of "where'd you stash the shit?", the dope is likely of at least usual quality.

actionjbone@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 102d

If this shit is the dope, yes.

But not necessarily if this shit is simply the dope.

owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 102d (1 reply)

And telling someone "you're shit" and "you ain't shit" mean the same thing.

PwnTra1n@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 101d

But both different from being “the shit”

thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 102d

“shit” vs “the shit” “bollocks” versus “the dog’s bollocks” and so on

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 102d

Just like how something being bollocks is strong British condemnation, but being the DOG'S bollocks means it's the fucking best!

What's that about? Do British canines just have marvelous testicles? 🤔

Chezus9247@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 102d

This is my kind of showerthought!

fubo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 102d

Usually, "shit" is worse than "ass" as a swear word. And yet, in "this shit is ass", the negative sentiment is carried by "ass", not "shit".

Zorque@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 102d

"You ever think about all of your shit is stuff, and everyone else's stuff is shit?"

-George Carlin

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 102d

Not quite exact opposite.

In the first sentence, 'shit' could be damn near anything.

In the second sentence, 'dope' is going to be cocaine or heroin or something close to that.

So they're not exact opposites, as the potential scope of the subject of the first sentence is much more broad than the second.

Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 102d

Now this shit is dope.

FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 3 pts · 101d

Imagines a really messed up episode of “is it cake?”.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 102d (6 replies)

I'm not sure "This dope is shit" has ANY meaning, as I'm not sure anyone has ever said that. Ever.

NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 8 pts · 102d (1 reply)

Well if you got a shitty batch if heroin, what else are you going to say?

Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 4 pts · 102d

"Fnfnddndn" as the fentanyl hits your system?

SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 102d

Uhh someone doesn’t know about drugs apparently.

p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social · 3 pts · 102d

Yeah it does?

SlicedPotato@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 102d (1 reply)

I disagree. In fact, I actually think that anything that can be said, has been said by someone, even if only one person.

schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 102d

Certainly not, just look at !brandnewsentence@lemmy.world for some examples of things unlikely to have been said ever before. (The non-federated link aggregation website has a busier version of that.)

whaleross@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 102d
Miller@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 102d

It is not very complex, both are generalist reference terms, shit can be a neutral referrer or have negative connotations and dope can be neutral or have positive connotations. So your two phrases decant to this referred to thing is a good thing and this referred to thing is a bad thing.