We are testing a different, longer term hypothesis now, which is whether they can become functional adults after being parented by non-functioning adults.
Quality surpasses anything. If you can get a short sleep but full REM cycles, you'll feel better than a long night of not quite getting to that point. Two hours might be too short for that, but three may be enough.
Oh really? I find melatonin doesn't knock me out, just makes me a bit groggy so it's easier to fall asleep. Kinda like when you're in bed and the alarm goes off. You can get up, but it feels so good just to stay in bed and sleep.
I don't take it regularly just in case you do build up a tolerance. I find that taking it for a bit helps restore my natural cycle. But I have no idea if you can take it long term regularly and have it still be as effective. It is supplementing a hormone already produced by your body, and melatonin production decreases as we age .
Really? That’s how I normally sleep. I usually wake up around 2 or 3 in the morning, sit up and fiddle around online for about 45 minutes and then go back to sleep till about 8 or 9 in the morning.
I saw a video that referenced a study where they had all the subjects stop using all forms of artificial lights (including lights, tvs, phones, etc). Every one of them defaulted to that sleep pattern - without being told about it.
Waking up your roommate every night at 3 am with your alarm so you can feel excited about how much longer you have to sleep is psychotic behavior. Like, certifiable send him to an institution sociopathy stuff.
There’s definitely something to this. I was recently setting an alarm for 2am because at some point during the night, I’m going to need to pee anyway and I’d prefer to get up for that with four hours left to sleep instead of two - waking up at 4am and having to get up to pee means I won’t be able to get back to sleep but waking up at 2am before I really have to go means I don’t have that alarm anxiety and will not have a problem making it the rest of the night.
I did that when I was 12. school sucked, going to bed meant, waking up an hour before school began. setting an alarm for the middle of the night changed that. nowadays I just go to bed, when the mid of the night alarm would have gone off
Had a friend who lived with his mother who had a similar setup, just later. He had an alarm like 3 hours before waking, then 1 hour, then his mother ended up actually making him get up.
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wabasso@lemmy.ca · 82 pts · 115d
I learned with kids that less total but uninterrupted is better than more total but interrupted.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 115d
The things we do in the name of science. Do you let them sleep normally now or is the experiment still ongoing?
wabasso@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 114d
We are testing a different, longer term hypothesis now, which is whether they can become functional adults after being parented by non-functioning adults.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 15 pts · 115d
Quality surpasses anything. If you can get a short sleep but full REM cycles, you'll feel better than a long night of not quite getting to that point. Two hours might be too short for that, but three may be enough.
DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 115d
Hang on a second there...
I wake in the night 2 or 3 times.
Sometimes it's 45 minutes before my alarm or some other depressing time.
Sometimes it's 5 hours before my alarm. The feeling when I look over and still have 5 more hours is really nice.
Wait just one damned minute here...lemme think about this.
albbi@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 115d
You could try taking some melatonin before bed. That usually keeps me from noticibly waking up in the middle of the night.
valkyre09@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 115d
And that ladies and gentlemen is the story of how I wet the bed
albbi@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 115d
Oh really? I find melatonin doesn't knock me out, just makes me a bit groggy so it's easier to fall asleep. Kinda like when you're in bed and the alarm goes off. You can get up, but it feels so good just to stay in bed and sleep.
maccentric@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 114d
Do you build up a tolerance over time?
albbi@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 114d
I don't take it regularly just in case you do build up a tolerance. I find that taking it for a bit helps restore my natural cycle. But I have no idea if you can take it long term regularly and have it still be as effective. It is supplementing a hormone already produced by your body, and melatonin production decreases as we age .
U7826391786239@piefed.zip · 30 pts · 115d
homes@piefed.world · 11 pts · 115d
Really? That’s how I normally sleep. I usually wake up around 2 or 3 in the morning, sit up and fiddle around online for about 45 minutes and then go back to sleep till about 8 or 9 in the morning.
U7826391786239@piefed.zip · 19 pts · 115d
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 115d
I saw a video that referenced a study where they had all the subjects stop using all forms of artificial lights (including lights, tvs, phones, etc). Every one of them defaulted to that sleep pattern - without being told about it.
CombatWombat@feddit.online · 22 pts · 115d
Waking up your roommate every night at 3 am with your alarm so you can feel excited about how much longer you have to sleep is psychotic behavior. Like, certifiable send him to an institution sociopathy stuff.
chetradley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 114d
The post doesn't say that OP was ever woken up by his roommate's alarm.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 115d
Sounds like a biphasic sleeper.
CluckN@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 115d
Is biphasic when you like both sleeping and napping? I was a little biphasic-curious back in college.
blattrules@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 115d
There’s definitely something to this. I was recently setting an alarm for 2am because at some point during the night, I’m going to need to pee anyway and I’d prefer to get up for that with four hours left to sleep instead of two - waking up at 4am and having to get up to pee means I won’t be able to get back to sleep but waking up at 2am before I really have to go means I don’t have that alarm anxiety and will not have a problem making it the rest of the night.
MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 115d
Ha! Wait till you're an old man and have to wake up to pee every night around that time.
shrugs@piefed.social · 8 pts · 115d
I did that when I was 12. school sucked, going to bed meant, waking up an hour before school began. setting an alarm for the middle of the night changed that. nowadays I just go to bed, when the mid of the night alarm would have gone off
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 115d
I usually have a very hard time getting back to sleep if I wake up in the middle of the night, so this would be hell for me.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 115d
Yeah that works a few times in a row, then your brain gets used to it and it will wear thin really quick
orenj@leminal.space · 5 pts · 115d
I have some of my best and most nourishing sleep in this window.
polle@feddit.org · 4 pts · 114d
He forgot to mention that the alarm was for smoking a pot
Damage@feddit.it · 4 pts · 115d
Had a friend who lived with his mother who had a similar setup, just later. He had an alarm like 3 hours before waking, then 1 hour, then his mother ended up actually making him get up.