To anyone who knows more about this: does this actually do anything particularly unique to avoid collecting user data, or is it basically just "trust us bro" and we just need to rely on the privacy policy and so on? It seems like DuckDuckGo but European everything (and with more of an AI focus) from my reading here.
https://www.xprivo.com/search/ This is the search engine. Kinda weird decision to put the AI chat in the homepage and the actual search engine inside /search.
Also above the text box with the AI chat. It's quicker than Claude though so I'm assuming it's not as processor intensive which is a good thing for quick shizz.
This has a lot of potential. So apparently they use their own + European Search Perspective indexes. The ESP was built by Ecosia and Qwant I believe. Will be testing out whether it's any good. Most search engines use bing or google under the hood, having something independent and still being decent is not easy. Last I checked only Brave had something remotely usable and independent but even then it was not that good. Kagi uses their own but still rely heavily on bing / google.
First impressions the site itself is pretty polished, at least from the UI side of things.
Seems like they have a PRO and PLUS services. PRO is 8 eur a month and gives access to more expensive LLM models. So far they offer Qwen 3, Kimi 2.5, Mistral 3, GPT 5.2, Gemini 3 PRO. Not bad but from my understanding you can only do 100 queries for that 8 eur.
Seems like the open source models are also hosted on EU. Would be great if they could include more, smaller models, such as Gemma 4, GPT 20B...
Will also be looking into their privacy claims and whether it's not just "trust me bro". I saw someone mention they were also planning on making the search open source or something ?
Edit: What I say below is no longer true. They seemed to fix it
The query
anti-fascism
results in funny results. The first page has absolutely nothing about fascism (nor anti-fascism) and it's only when you click on "show me more" that you actually get anti-fascism results.
32 Comments
jgjl@discuss.tchncs.de · 25 pts · 89d
Nice initiative! The bad name alone might be enough to sink it though.
whaleross@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 89d
Looks and sounds like some late 90s cyber something.
breakingcups@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 89d
That or an adult site
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 89d
Are you really going to say that about an industry where the other search engine names are..
checks notes
Ask Jeeves, Google, Bing, SearXNG, DuckDuckGo, Lycos... ?
Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 89d
At least AltaVista was nice
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 89d
It sounds like an antidepressant brand name.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 87d
It sounds like a place in California.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 87d
Google is silly yet understandable, but who on earth came up with Bing? Oh, yeah... Microsoft
But you forgot the worst of them all: Yahoo!
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 3 pts · 87d
Yeah, I'd at least rename to Privo. Or PrivoSearch.
arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 89d
To anyone who knows more about this: does this actually do anything particularly unique to avoid collecting user data, or is it basically just "trust us bro" and we just need to rely on the privacy policy and so on? It seems like DuckDuckGo but European everything (and with more of an AI focus) from my reading here.
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 89d
Me: What is the truth behind xprivo? Xprivo: I’m not sure what “xprivo” refers to.
Good, no self awareness! 😁
Successful_Try543@feddit.org · 7 pts · 89d
HereIAm@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 88d
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 89d
elon made me instinctively avoid anything with x in it where x isn't part of a real word.
Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io · 1 pts · 84d
Those deep reflexive responses evolved to save our lives. Be cautious, and observant before over-riding safety measures.
onnekas@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 87d
Why are we calling an AIChat a search engine now?
I want a search engine that provides me with some clickable links to relevant websites.
Edit: I mean look at this... It literally tells me to use another search engine that I'm trying to avoid??:
HELLLLLOOOO!?!?
unglueclass23@programming.dev · 8 pts · 87d
https://www.xprivo.com/search/ This is the search engine. Kinda weird decision to put the AI chat in the homepage and the actual search engine inside /search.
onnekas@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 87d
I see. Thanks. This looks better.
frymbial@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 89d
I dont like that they put ads as the first search result
phonics@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 89d
Also above the text box with the AI chat. It's quicker than Claude though so I'm assuming it's not as processor intensive which is a good thing for quick shizz.
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 89d
Claude 🤢
nykula@piefed.social · 4 pts · 89d
What is the business model? The way they emphasize AI features, it sounds venture capital-ish and thus prone to enshittification.
phonics@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 89d
Ads in search and on the AI page
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 89d
What a name...
onnekas@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 87d
Here's better name: YAAIC (Yet Another AI Chat)
unglueclass23@programming.dev · 3 pts · 87d
https://www.xprivo.com/search/
unglueclass23@programming.dev · 2 pts · 87d
This has a lot of potential. So apparently they use their own + European Search Perspective indexes. The ESP was built by Ecosia and Qwant I believe. Will be testing out whether it's any good. Most search engines use bing or google under the hood, having something independent and still being decent is not easy. Last I checked only Brave had something remotely usable and independent but even then it was not that good. Kagi uses their own but still rely heavily on bing / google.
First impressions the site itself is pretty polished, at least from the UI side of things.
Seems like they have a PRO and PLUS services. PRO is 8 eur a month and gives access to more expensive LLM models. So far they offer Qwen 3, Kimi 2.5, Mistral 3, GPT 5.2, Gemini 3 PRO. Not bad but from my understanding you can only do 100 queries for that 8 eur.
Seems like the open source models are also hosted on EU. Would be great if they could include more, smaller models, such as Gemma 4, GPT 20B...
Will also be looking into their privacy claims and whether it's not just "trust me bro". I saw someone mention they were also planning on making the search open source or something ?
https://www.old.reddit.com/r/xprivo/comments/1rq52ka/comment/o9ppycu/ , but havent delivered.
I have to say though looking really good.
snek_boi@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 89d
Edit: What I say below is no longer true. They seemed to fix it
The query
results in funny results. The first page has absolutely nothing about fascism (nor anti-fascism) and it's only when you click on "show me more" that you actually get anti-fascism results.
newton@feddit.online · 0 pts · 88d
No thanks
HowDawg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 88d
Why not?
newton@feddit.online · 0 pts · 88d
Waiting for release of ladybird browser , using now mostly searX
onnekas@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 85d
Will ladybird have an own search engine? As far as I know it's just a browser, right?