The pope does not have the power the Pope used to have in the Medieval era. Back then he was a king of kings, he could make and break countries, and organize invasions like the Normans into Sicily and elsewhere.
Nowadays though the Pope is just sort of figure head.
The American Catholic establishment is hardcore right-wing generally They hated the last pope and this one, and the Pope is not going to regulate on them very much.
The pope should regulate though. He should resurrect the muscular Pappacy And raze and burn this cynical catholic establishment openly betraying the vision of Jesus Christ in America.
Oh my god, there's a big list but JD Vance is a cynical player of religious people, he should be excommunicated. He doesn't believe. He's playing the flock to frustrate the vision of Jesus christ, and frankly excommunication is the best he deserves. Back in the old days, we would deal with this very differently.
Many of them are immigrants, which might make immigration a single issue vote. Many of them are pro worker and pro union, pro social services. Contrast that with say southern baptists or Methodists or “non denominational” or whatever other Christians, who will already have the same abortion bias anyway, that’s why I made the claim I did.
That is true, I am actually a direct representative of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, anointed by the pasta to fulfill this Flying Spaghetti monsters mission on Earth hallelujah.
What's Peter Thiel gonna say about the anti-christ being AI now?
The billionaire tech oligarch who's building a centralized global surveillance database powered by AI and who murdered his gay lover somehow knows better than the Catholic Pope who the real anti-christ is, right? Eh...
Where are all those fundies who freaked about about the Matrix and said The Architect was actually Lucifer?
Ever since the pope got ignored at the Peace of Westphalia over 400 years ago, the position has lost quite a bit of its power, especially political power. Most Catholics don't listen to the pope, why would everyone else listen to him?
As the leader of what I view as the most prolific cult on planet earth, I've got to give him this one. I cannot wait for the bubble to crash, burn, and take these companies down with it.
it's always interesting to see a sentiment I more or less agree with coming from a source that's far outside of the things I put much consideration in to. I didn't read the whole statement, but I liked the sentiment of his opening line. It reminded me of a Jesuit(?) approach, where the sentiment is about being more focused with just helping make the world a better place in the here and now and being less focused on the history and dogma. Like it or not, it's rarely a bad thing to have an institution with the power of the Catholic church presumptively working in the same direction. Enemy of my enemy and all that.
calling them tech titans is a stretch, more like tech parasitoids, which different from a parasites, they will use up all the resource and end up destroying the companies they control.
He's the leader of a worldwide organization thar millions of people look up to for moral guidance. Calling this stuff out is absolutely within his purview, and he's using his influence and reach for the right reasons.
I find it strange to trash arguably the most progressive pope in the history of the catholic church just because he's the catholic pope.
It's almost like you want those millions of people to forfeit their critical thinking to the tech oligarchs and far-right political propaganda...
He wasn't taking to the tech bros, either, is the point. This headline makes it seem like a conversation between them, just arbitrarily adding in the group that doesn't listen to anyone
Catholics make up a large voting bloc in many countries. Also, consumer choices do matter (to an extent).
Again, he's addressing his flock. I don't give a fuck if you bring up a bunch of tangential groups that he doesn't have authority over. He's talking to the people who adhere to the religion he's the leader of. It's got nothing to do with you, or any of the other people you're saying he isn't talking to.
He has a pulpit, and he's using it for good. That's it.
Edit: just realized you were criticizing the headline, and also you're not the commenter I initially responded to. So my response was a bit overblown.
Yeah, clickbaity, editorialized headlines are bullshit. That's an entirely separate (though still valid!) issue...
Nobody cares what the pope has to say. Maybe if they used their giant, millennial old piles of pilfered and stolen gold to economically pressure them...but naaaah they don't want change to cost them anything...
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apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 86 pts · 108d
Wow no shit? Who'd have thought.
sanpo@sopuli.xyz · 65 pts · 108d
And why would they care anyway? Why does anyone?
"Pope says" is pretty much irrelevant, even to a lot of christians, not to mention everyone else.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 108d
The pope does not have the power the Pope used to have in the Medieval era. Back then he was a king of kings, he could make and break countries, and organize invasions like the Normans into Sicily and elsewhere.
Nowadays though the Pope is just sort of figure head.
The American Catholic establishment is hardcore right-wing generally They hated the last pope and this one, and the Pope is not going to regulate on them very much.
The pope should regulate though. He should resurrect the muscular Pappacy And raze and burn this cynical catholic establishment openly betraying the vision of Jesus Christ in America.
FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 17 pts · 108d
He could start by excommunicating prominent far-right Catholic figureheads like Matt Walsh and JD Vance (I think???).
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 108d
Oh my god, there's a big list but JD Vance is a cynical player of religious people, he should be excommunicated. He doesn't believe. He's playing the flock to frustrate the vision of Jesus christ, and frankly excommunication is the best he deserves. Back in the old days, we would deal with this very differently.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 108d
JD did kill the last pope.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 107d
the current one is keeping him as far away as possible.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 108d
From my experience, Catholics in the US are generally on the left side of the spectrum when compared to other Christians politically.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 108d
Their main right wing issue is abortion. And unfortunately that's a single issue that moves many voters
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 108d
Many of them are immigrants, which might make immigration a single issue vote. Many of them are pro worker and pro union, pro social services. Contrast that with say southern baptists or Methodists or “non denominational” or whatever other Christians, who will already have the same abortion bias anyway, that’s why I made the claim I did.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 108d
I wasn't disagreeing with you. Catholics tend to be left on many issues... With the biggest exception being abortion.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 108d
It's kind of like a 50/50 split between good and bad guys. Obviously the bad guys don't know they are the bad guys that goes without saying.
Obviously said good guys are not that great either and also completely delusional. Those of us in reality are a lonely bunch.
stenAanden@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 108d
They are in fact a powerful force in many countries where they lobby against the rights of women, LGBT and religious minorities.
TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 108d
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 108d
Drunk though people were back then, they were not I don't want to say retarded by chemical pollution but that.
That is a traditional use of the word, nothing to do with ableism by the way, they would say that preservative to retard spoilation, for centuries.
Cherry@piefed.social · 12 pts · 108d
I never thought we would hear religion be the voice of reason. Time STEM to to become SEM
prex@aussie.zone · 24 pts · 108d
Engineering is a bit iffy too. Better make it S & M
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 108d
Science is applied mathematics. Better make it just the big M
urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe · 12 pts · 108d
saltesc@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 108d
Pope's just repeat whatever's morally trending on Reddit at the time.
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 9 pts · 108d
Which is funny considering it's supposed to be the direct word of God channeled through a man.
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 4 pts · 108d
Lots of religions have one of those.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 108d
That is true, I am actually a direct representative of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, anointed by the pasta to fulfill this Flying Spaghetti monsters mission on Earth hallelujah.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 108d
Even many many Catholics, especially US based Catholics.
stenAanden@feddit.dk · 32 pts · 108d
Tech titans entirely silent after countless of other individuals have warned about risks of AI, long before the pope.
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 108d
Yeah, maybe the pope is far more qualified in relevant fields than anyone who's spoken prior. Unlikely, but probable I guess.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 108d
What's Peter Thiel gonna say about the anti-christ being AI now?
The billionaire tech oligarch who's building a centralized global surveillance database powered by AI and who murdered his gay lover somehow knows better than the Catholic Pope who the real anti-christ is, right? Eh...
Where are all those fundies who freaked about about the Matrix and said The Architect was actually Lucifer?
FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 12 pts · 108d
Ever since the pope got ignored at the Peace of Westphalia over 400 years ago, the position has lost quite a bit of its power, especially political power. Most Catholics don't listen to the pope, why would everyone else listen to him?
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 108d
You don’t want people to start believing in hallucinated, made-up shit now, would you? /s
Reygle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 108d
As the leader of what I view as the most prolific cult on planet earth, I've got to give him this one. I cannot wait for the bubble to crash, burn, and take these companies down with it.
terabyterex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 108d
these companies arent going anywhere. the big companies didnt disappear after the dotcom crash, and neither did the web.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 108d
Well yeah, to them the Pope is a minor political figure whose opinion matters very little.
Mearcfara@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 108d
it's always interesting to see a sentiment I more or less agree with coming from a source that's far outside of the things I put much consideration in to. I didn't read the whole statement, but I liked the sentiment of his opening line. It reminded me of a Jesuit(?) approach, where the sentiment is about being more focused with just helping make the world a better place in the here and now and being less focused on the history and dogma. Like it or not, it's rarely a bad thing to have an institution with the power of the Catholic church presumptively working in the same direction. Enemy of my enemy and all that.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 107d
calling them tech titans is a stretch, more like tech parasitoids, which different from a parasites, they will use up all the resource and end up destroying the companies they control.
Norin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 108d
It wasn’t written for them.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 108d
But i bet reddit atheist comms are going off their shits
mrodri89@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 108d
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 108d
Only had two go two comments to hit this predictable response.
mrodri89@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 108d
Dagnet@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 108d
They will propose a new schism in the catolic church to create a christianity that worships AI.
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 2 pts · 108d
He's a religious leader, what does he have to do with the tech industry?
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 108d
He's the leader of a worldwide organization thar millions of people look up to for moral guidance. Calling this stuff out is absolutely within his purview, and he's using his influence and reach for the right reasons.
I find it strange to trash arguably the most progressive pope in the history of the catholic church just because he's the catholic pope.
It's almost like you want those millions of people to forfeit their critical thinking to the tech oligarchs and far-right political propaganda...
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 4 pts · 108d
Okay, he's a leader of a large religion.
That still doesn't give him any special knowledge or authority regarding AI.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 108d
But he's charged with the moral guidance of his flock, and he's using that to push a positive message.
You don't have to look up to him, but he's not talking to you...
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 108d
He wasn't taking to the tech bros, either, is the point. This headline makes it seem like a conversation between them, just arbitrarily adding in the group that doesn't listen to anyone
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 108d
Catholics make up a large voting bloc in many countries. Also, consumer choices do matter (to an extent).
Again, he's addressing his flock. I don't give a fuck if you bring up a bunch of tangential groups that he doesn't have authority over. He's talking to the people who adhere to the religion he's the leader of. It's got nothing to do with you, or any of the other people you're saying he isn't talking to.
He has a pulpit, and he's using it for good. That's it.
Edit: just realized you were criticizing the headline, and also you're not the commenter I initially responded to. So my response was a bit overblown.
Yeah, clickbaity, editorialized headlines are bullshit. That's an entirely separate (though still valid!) issue...
chunes@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 108d
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 108d
That's just the clickbait headline, not sure how that's the Pope's fault...
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 108d
Exactly, he should be focusing on crime.
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 4 pts · 108d
Specifically sex abuse within the church.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 108d
Nobody cares what the pope has to say. Maybe if they used their giant, millennial old piles of pilfered and stolen gold to economically pressure them...but naaaah they don't want change to cost them anything...
stenAanden@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 108d
Nah dude. You can't expect this murder cult leader to use their pile of gold for anything. Just clap when he posts motivational quotes.
The_Blinding_Eyes@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 108d
That's because they think Tech is the new god.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 2 pts · 108d
It's because they don't give a fuck.
Etterra@discuss.online · 1 pts · 108d
Their tech CEOs. The only gods they think exist are themselves.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 107d
Blurry glasses, wondering why the pope and the Teen Titans were feuding again.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 108d
Good for them, otherwise we are going to make them shutup.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 0 pts · 108d
The king of the pedos is showing the the little pedos who's boss
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 108d
All I want to hear from the white-robed asshole is how he's going to purge the pedophiles he's currently helping to hide.
cookiecoookie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 108d
Won't happen because they have an army of useful idiots
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -9 pts · 108d
The Pope is the antichrist and the tech bros are busy ushering in the next era of humanity.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 3 pts · 108d
Please use /s or we won't get if you mean it or not.