I've read that cats were used commonly in labs in USSR because they are smaller than dogs. I remember reading that they were used for example to study sleep deprivation. They would put a cat in a container with water so that he would have to stand or he would drawn and see how long would it last.
On a related note, there's a parakeet species spreading in Europe. I've read that some researches form my local university wanted to study them but they were complaining those bastards are very sneaky and impossible to catch. They finally managed to capture one but it figured out how to open the cage and escaped. For me that's quite uncooperative.
At a scientific conference I saw someone presenting a cat study poster. Japanese guy studying the neural control of bowel movements. His prep had a balloon inflated up a cat's ass to measure peristaltic contractions.
The book Cat Sense by John Bradshaw is a good read (you can probably find a free pdf thats complete, and years ago I uploaded the audiobook to audiobookbay, but this preview will do for not linking to amazon or potentially breaking rules).
He got around the problem of cats not doing cat things in a lab by just, you know, having cats at home and observing their behavior. Sure, its only a look at domestic cats for the most part, but its a great read anyway.
I know it's a meme com, but they really aren't. In this case it's more about humans being "dumb". They try to apply the same methodology they use with dogs to cats. And that in itself is dumb. There are studies out there that treat cats as cats and yield actual results.
Another thing is there's much, much more funding for dog research simply because dogs are far more useful to humans than cats. E.g. guide dogs for blind people, other service dogs, bomb sniffer dogs, rescue dogs, etc.
Meanwhile, useful cats are just cats doing cat things, like chasing mice and rodents in the house or in a barn for barn cats, as they require much less training since it’s their natural instinct and much less maintenance since some don’t crave human attention constantly (for barn cats).
There was a documentary about rats on Netflix I think and there was a segment about rat hunting terriers. There was a pack of them on a farm and they were just ripping those rats apart. Completely vicious like fighting over rats.
At least for my cat, I would say he both is dumb but definitely also plays dumb when I try to get him to do things. Sure, it's fun to jump over the human's arm and get a treat after, but what's also fun is to watch the human crawl pathetically on the floor while he tries to adjust his arm to a good jumping height.
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ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca · 99 pts · 96d
Cats do exactly what they feel like doing, external motivation be damned. Honestly, it's not a bad trait.
Beacon@fedia.io · 39 pts · 96d
Nah my cats always come running when i shake the treat bag
KingGordon@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 96d
Which is exactly what they want you to do.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 96d
Yeah dude got domesticated well
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 95d
Shit. Is this one of them sociewhatevers of freely organized thingies?
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 96d
That says more about the training of the human than the training of the cat.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 17 pts · 95d
I've read that cats were used commonly in labs in USSR because they are smaller than dogs. I remember reading that they were used for example to study sleep deprivation. They would put a cat in a container with water so that he would have to stand or he would drawn and see how long would it last.
On a related note, there's a parakeet species spreading in Europe. I've read that some researches form my local university wanted to study them but they were complaining those bastards are very sneaky and impossible to catch. They finally managed to capture one but it figured out how to open the cage and escaped. For me that's quite uncooperative.
LetThereBeNick@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 95d
At a scientific conference I saw someone presenting a cat study poster. Japanese guy studying the neural control of bowel movements. His prep had a balloon inflated up a cat's ass to measure peristaltic contractions.
Tonava@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 95d
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 3 pts · 95d
Monk parakeets I believe. I think by now you can find them in many places between Spain and Germany.
Tonava@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 95d
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 95d
The book Cat Sense by John Bradshaw is a good read (you can probably find a free pdf thats complete, and years ago I uploaded the audiobook to audiobookbay, but this preview will do for not linking to amazon or potentially breaking rules).
He got around the problem of cats not doing cat things in a lab by just, you know, having cats at home and observing their behavior. Sure, its only a look at domestic cats for the most part, but its a great read anyway.
laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 95d
was it Jane Goodall who was behind this sort thing naturalistic obs research sounds really hard for someone with adhd
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 96d
What if they're actually just too dumb?
(I haven't seen the research, just wondering if maybe they just don't get it)
AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social · 33 pts · 96d
I know it's a meme com, but they really aren't. In this case it's more about humans being "dumb". They try to apply the same methodology they use with dogs to cats. And that in itself is dumb. There are studies out there that treat cats as cats and yield actual results.
Another thing is there's much, much more funding for dog research simply because dogs are far more useful to humans than cats. E.g. guide dogs for blind people, other service dogs, bomb sniffer dogs, rescue dogs, etc.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 96d
Meanwhile, useful cats are just cats doing cat things, like chasing mice and rodents in the house or in a barn for barn cats, as they require much less training since it’s their natural instinct and much less maintenance since some don’t crave human attention constantly (for barn cats).
ByteJunk@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 95d
We actually train dogs to catch mice, because cats are, as concluded in the study, dicks that will only do what they please.
Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 94d
There was a documentary about rats on Netflix I think and there was a segment about rat hunting terriers. There was a pack of them on a farm and they were just ripping those rats apart. Completely vicious like fighting over rats.
AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social · 2 pts · 94d
And then we have mink trained to exterminate rats together with dogs. That might be the most entertaining way of rat extermination to watch.
ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 95d
You get an upvote for the meme, but ummm actchually for incorrectness:)
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 96d
At least for my cat, I would say he both is dumb but definitely also plays dumb when I try to get him to do things. Sure, it's fun to jump over the human's arm and get a treat after, but what's also fun is to watch the human crawl pathetically on the floor while he tries to adjust his arm to a good jumping height.
Smeagol666@mander.xyz · 0 pts · 91d
We should be eating cats and having pigs as pets instead.