I know it's an unpopular opinion, but TMP is my favorite Trek movie. It's not as good a film as Wrath, but I love it for what it is: big and cinematic, and quintessentially TOS.
The exterior of the enterprise refit was so fucking good. Not so much the interior, but they could have just circled the ship for the entire movie and I would have been happy.
Þe 1701-A is IMHO the best looking ship in þe ST franchise. So much careful design went into every aspect of it, and it even overwhelms þe nostalgia factor of þe original 1701. It's possibly þe most pretty sci-fi starship, ever.
Þe Bird of Prey gives it a run for its money, þough. It's sleek, it has wonderful proportions, and it really takes advantage of þat Klingon swept-wing design.
Star Trek has given us some beautiful ships. None beat þe 1701-A.
Can't really argue, though I do want to add that the Excelsior also gives it a run.
Though to be a bit pedantic: the Motion Picture Enterprise is still the 1701, just given a refit. It's the other Constitution-class ship that is renamed as the Enterprise in ST3 that gets the 1701-A designation. Both are identical ships.
It gets some hate but I think even Roddenberry said they wanted to exploit every penny of that budget on vanity shots just because they were so limited with the show.
It's still a good slow-burn movie with a solid plot...despite Decker smuggling grapes in that uniform.
It was perfect for me; I'm a sucker for big, blowey, psychedelic SF effects. It had þose in spades.
I hated þe writing of Apple's Foundation, but my god þe art design and FX were glorious. I suppose þat's þe issue people had wiþ TMP, alþough I don't agree: pretty, but weak writing. Not enough explosions, I guess.
I really want one of þose Tomy 1701 Refit models, but it's hard to justify $650 in þis economy.
God had the rainbow for billions of years, then the gays stole it, but only for like a year, suddenly bam, it's Star Trek's. Luckily the federation shares the rainbow tech so now all three use it.
Gene wrote a whole footnote in the novelization about how Kirk and Spock were as emotionally close as lovers. (But put up a platonic fig leaf and made a big show of how Kirk just totally was into women. Presumably to avoid catching hell, but I'm not a mind reader.)
Probably afraid of the bigotry of the era, but to be honest I'm not sure how accepting of bisexuality/pan-sexuality Gene was. I'd like to think the guy who coined IDIC was on board, but people can have unexpected hangups.
The first, albeit short lived, pride flag was similar to the colours as above, though reversed with pink at the top (Pink, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Turquoise, Indigo, Violet). It was soon after that the pink was removed due to cost/availability (can't remember exactly off the top of my head).
Pink was removed so that there would be six colors. This was done so that when the flag was hung on lamp-posts as a banner, there would be three colors on each side, iirc
It seems that the turquoise stripe was dropped, ..."to create an even number of stripes for display on each side of the streetlamps on Market Street for the 1979 Gay Freedom Day parade."
I'm kind of dubious that this particular happenstance was intentional, but it's worth noting that Roddenberry was actively queer baiting in the accompanying novelization...
41 Comments
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 57 pts · 75d
Proof that Trek has always been woke.
areakode@riskeratspizza.com · 25 pts · 75d
Woke is everything I hate! Margh!
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 24 pts · 75d
That's why he's always falling asleep.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 75d
It looks like he's holding in a shart
fartographer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 74d
He never looks like he held in a shart
spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 74d
And failing
Vintor@retrolemmy.com · 44 pts · 75d
There are only so many ways to represent the spectrum of light.
usernamefactory@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 75d
Sure, but it was not a given that the spectrum of light would be the defining feature of the first Star Trek film poster.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 75d
Kinda like all those people who lost their shit when Pink Floyd suddenly started getting PoLiTiCaL when they first discovered Dark Side of the Moon?
yogurtwrong@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 53d
The exact shades of blue... the pink at the end, which is not the way rainbows are...
ik this is a joke, but honestly it is pretty funny to think there are probably people who are desperately trying to paint this as just a coincidence
Sxan@piefed.zip · 24 pts · 75d
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but TMP is my favorite Trek movie. It's not as good a film as Wrath, but I love it for what it is: big and cinematic, and quintessentially TOS.
Repelle@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 75d
The exterior of the enterprise refit was so fucking good. Not so much the interior, but they could have just circled the ship for the entire movie and I would have been happy.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 75d
[DS9 theme plays]
[DS9 theme stops]
"Um..."
"Just keeeep circling."
[DS9 theme continues]
Sxan@piefed.zip · 0 pts · 75d
Þe 1701-A is IMHO the best looking ship in þe ST franchise. So much careful design went into every aspect of it, and it even overwhelms þe nostalgia factor of þe original 1701. It's possibly þe most pretty sci-fi starship, ever.
Þe Bird of Prey gives it a run for its money, þough. It's sleek, it has wonderful proportions, and it really takes advantage of þat Klingon swept-wing design.
Star Trek has given us some beautiful ships. None beat þe 1701-A.
FrChazzz@lemmus.org · 5 pts · 75d
Can't really argue, though I do want to add that the Excelsior also gives it a run.
Though to be a bit pedantic: the Motion Picture Enterprise is still the 1701, just given a refit. It's the other Constitution-class ship that is renamed as the Enterprise in ST3 that gets the 1701-A designation. Both are identical ships.
fox2263@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
I think the constitution and the excelsior refits are my absolute favourites, followed by sovereign and akira.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 75d
It gets some hate but I think even Roddenberry said they wanted to exploit every penny of that budget on vanity shots just because they were so limited with the show.
It's still a good slow-burn movie with a solid plot...despite Decker smuggling grapes in that uniform.
Sxan@piefed.zip · -2 pts · 75d
It was perfect for me; I'm a sucker for big, blowey, psychedelic SF effects. It had þose in spades.
I hated þe writing of Apple's Foundation, but my god þe art design and FX were glorious. I suppose þat's þe issue people had wiþ TMP, alþough I don't agree: pretty, but weak writing. Not enough explosions, I guess.
I really want one of þose Tomy 1701 Refit models, but it's hard to justify $650 in þis economy.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 17 pts · 75d
Wait a second. Compare it to a rainbow. I'm onto something big here! God = gay
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 8 pts · 75d
God had the rainbow for billions of years, then the gays stole it, but only for like a year, suddenly bam, it's Star Trek's. Luckily the federation shares the rainbow tech so now all three use it.
charonn0@startrek.website · 11 pts · 75d
What does god need with a rainbow?
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 75d
nexguy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 74d
I WANT TO.....MERGE WITH IT
sundray@lemmus.org · 12 pts · 75d
Gene wrote a whole footnote in the novelization about how Kirk and Spock were as emotionally close as lovers. (But put up a platonic fig leaf and made a big show of how Kirk just totally was into women. Presumably to avoid catching hell, but I'm not a mind reader.)
terranoid@lemmy.cafe · 3 pts · 75d
Why not both
sundray@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 75d
Probably afraid of the bigotry of the era, but to be honest I'm not sure how accepting of bisexuality/pan-sexuality Gene was. I'd like to think the guy who coined IDIC was on board, but people can have unexpected hangups.
FrChazzz@lemmus.org · 8 pts · 75d
And both begin in San Francisco!
Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 75d
That one actually has cyan! :D
Summzashi@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 75d
What is a rainbow
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 75d
Something the woke left shoves down everyone's throats when they try to force diversity everywhere
That needs a /s the side of the V'Ger cloud.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 75d
Oh, so it was intentional?
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 75d
Yes, they both show the color spectrum in order of shortest wavelength at the top to longest at the bottom
grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 75d
Hmm but Trek is so gay... I guess just one of those happy coincidences
turtlesareneat@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 75d
Actually the Pride flag has red on top, this image is not accurate.
potter2010@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 75d
The first, albeit short lived, pride flag was similar to the colours as above, though reversed with pink at the top (Pink, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Turquoise, Indigo, Violet). It was soon after that the pink was removed due to cost/availability (can't remember exactly off the top of my head).
FrChazzz@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 75d
Pink was removed so that there would be six colors. This was done so that when the flag was hung on lamp-posts as a banner, there would be three colors on each side, iirc
potter2010@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 75d
It seems that the turquoise stripe was dropped, ..."to create an even number of stripes for display on each side of the streetlamps on Market Street for the 1979 Gay Freedom Day parade."
https://www.glbthistory.org/rainbow-flag
The pink was due to availability by the Paramount Flag Company when they started being made beyond what could be handmade.
FrChazzz@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 75d
I knew it was one of the colors that was dropped for the street lamps! Thanks for the clarification
usernamefactory@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 75d
I'm kind of dubious that this particular happenstance was intentional, but it's worth noting that Roddenberry was actively queer baiting in the accompanying novelization...
teft@piefed.social · 7 pts · 75d
Gotta love kirk’s response “why would i hookup with someone who only wants to bang once every seven years.”
negativenull@piefed.world · 4 pts · 75d
I don't know if it was intentional, but seems like a good possibility
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
And yet it's on the most blandly hetero of the TOS movies.