There's the ones that you kind of get swooned by and kinda back their cause, like Agent Smith.
Then there's the ones that are just bad, but you get it. Some people just be psychopathic.
Then there's Vecna types and you're like, "What's the plan here, huh? You get your way and then what? Nothing's left to do. Like, at all."
Sauron's another one. Ultimate rule and order... Cool-cool. So he gets that and then what? Why? Just sit and watch Middle Earth like a model railway in the back shed for the next few eons? Wooooow.
Okay so... Sauron is a bit more to it. Melkor/Morgoth, his Valar, sung into existence evil into middle earth during the song of creation, by joining in with dissonance. In doing so he insured that his power and his being would forever be tied to Middle Earth, manifested through the creation of evil itself. Evil will never leave middle earth because of this.
Sauron wants to continue this endeavor, and seeks to overthrow the maiar in middle earth (the white, grey, brown, and blue wizards) and rise to the status of a valar. He then wants to overthrow the Valar's influence over middle earth, as they were the ones that ultimately slew his master, Morgoth.
This is still ultimately foolhardy, as he then would have to contend with Eru Illuvitar, literally god.
For Sauron, yes exactly that. He was a Maiar of the Valar of craftsmanship who was swayed by Morgoth. He almost certainly would very much like just leading in a world that rejects the natural wildness to be replaced with a mechanical and industrial order. In the same way that Radagast would like nothing more than going camping forever.
Literally sneaking on board alien vessels, getting killed in droves to take over the ships, then other planets, was better than staying home and being replaced by AI.
I’m just being goofy. They always called the big one queen.
If we’re not considering what they do to people’s faces, they reproduce asexually so likely they don’t have a sex.
Every movie kinda reconned the previous one in terms of lifecycle, so it depends on which one you decide is valid.
The first one, the eggs are just kinda there, and the alien doesn't have a clear lifecycle aside from egg -> facehugger -> pupa -> alien. There's no info past that.
If you add the director's cut in, then it adds that the humans the alien caught get turned into eggs to finish the lifecycle. So it's kinda asexual reproduction? Not exactly clear.
Aliens, they add a queen, so it's implied that it's kinda like an ant colony. Except the queen lays eggs that spawn facehuggers that plant the pupa into an organism.
Aliens3 makes it more clear that the facehuggers spawn aliens in the form of the organism it was implanted in. Which is how we got the dog alien, etc.
Past that, it's all over the place. Especially when you introduce the black goo and whatever the hell Prometheus decided.
As soon as aliens take over they would all starve right? They've got to save some food for later.
Ok I only watched the first movie. But in the comics seems like it's usually humans keeping them around so they can make super weapons, they don't exist in a sustainable ecosystem.
The idea seems to be have such a robust egg that it will lay dormant for millions of years till some other species is naiive enough to come into contact with them.
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29 Comments
Addv4@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 55d
Apparently, they share some commonalities with the Taliban.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 55d
And a long line of others who have learned that conquering/destroying is way easier than building.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 55d
I always struggle with villains like that.
There's the ones that you kind of get swooned by and kinda back their cause, like Agent Smith.
Then there's the ones that are just bad, but you get it. Some people just be psychopathic.
Then there's Vecna types and you're like, "What's the plan here, huh? You get your way and then what? Nothing's left to do. Like, at all."
Sauron's another one. Ultimate rule and order... Cool-cool. So he gets that and then what? Why? Just sit and watch Middle Earth like a model railway in the back shed for the next few eons? Wooooow.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 55d
It's a pet peeve of mine too. Like, it's not the physical ground or buildings or borders that make up the thing that you want to rule over.
It's also similar to how I feel about the "burn it all down" political takes.
ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 55d
Hmm
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 55d
Okay so... Sauron is a bit more to it. Melkor/Morgoth, his Valar, sung into existence evil into middle earth during the song of creation, by joining in with dissonance. In doing so he insured that his power and his being would forever be tied to Middle Earth, manifested through the creation of evil itself. Evil will never leave middle earth because of this.
Sauron wants to continue this endeavor, and seeks to overthrow the maiar in middle earth (the white, grey, brown, and blue wizards) and rise to the status of a valar. He then wants to overthrow the Valar's influence over middle earth, as they were the ones that ultimately slew his master, Morgoth.
This is still ultimately foolhardy, as he then would have to contend with Eru Illuvitar, literally god.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 54d
For Sauron, yes exactly that. He was a Maiar of the Valar of craftsmanship who was swayed by Morgoth. He almost certainly would very much like just leading in a world that rejects the natural wildness to be replaced with a mechanical and industrial order. In the same way that Radagast would like nothing more than going camping forever.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 55d
Doesn't Aaragon become King? Sort of the same thing. Seems like two billionaires squabbling over their property line.
sundray@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 54d
That's why you've got to learn to eat radiation and static electricity!
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 54d
Actually interesting that this comic predates the US fleeing Afghanistan (Apr 26, 21 vs Aug 15, 21)
LesserAbe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 54d
pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 54d
Shout-out to that calendar.
Redfox8@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 54d
Friendly lookin face hugger, awww, com'ere!
pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 54d
For these guys, wouldn't it be the equivalent of those calendars where every month has an adorable baby picture?
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 21 pts · 55d
Now Alien can experience the terror of being replaced by AI to improve the quarterly profit margin and to bring the most Value™ to the Shareholders 🙏
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 8 pts · 55d
that's because they already did that on their home planet
zabadoh@ani.social · 4 pts · 54d
Literally sneaking on board alien vessels, getting killed in droves to take over the ships, then other planets, was better than staying home and being replaced by AI.
OpenStars@piefed.social · 9 pts · 55d
Wow, such large, herbivorous teeth you have there Mr Alien! 👽😬
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 55d
Ms
OpenStars@piefed.social · 1 pts · 55d
It was the tie 👔 that threw me:-P.
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 54d
I’m just being goofy. They always called the big one queen. If we’re not considering what they do to people’s faces, they reproduce asexually so likely they don’t have a sex.
OpenStars@piefed.social · 2 pts · 54d
Mx? 🤪
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 54d
Every movie kinda reconned the previous one in terms of lifecycle, so it depends on which one you decide is valid.
The first one, the eggs are just kinda there, and the alien doesn't have a clear lifecycle aside from egg -> facehugger -> pupa -> alien. There's no info past that.
If you add the director's cut in, then it adds that the humans the alien caught get turned into eggs to finish the lifecycle. So it's kinda asexual reproduction? Not exactly clear.
Aliens, they add a queen, so it's implied that it's kinda like an ant colony. Except the queen lays eggs that spawn facehuggers that plant the pupa into an organism.
Aliens3 makes it more clear that the facehuggers spawn aliens in the form of the organism it was implanted in. Which is how we got the dog alien, etc.
Past that, it's all over the place. Especially when you introduce the black goo and whatever the hell Prometheus decided.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 54d
They have a very short life span though.
LesserAbe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 54d
As soon as aliens take over they would all starve right? They've got to save some food for later.
Ok I only watched the first movie. But in the comics seems like it's usually humans keeping them around so they can make super weapons, they don't exist in a sustainable ecosystem.
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 54d
The idea seems to be have such a robust egg that it will lay dormant for millions of years till some other species is naiive enough to come into contact with them.
sundray@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 54d
Mama always told me there'd be days like these. Well actually, she said 'RAAAAAAAAHGGGHG!' but I got the gist.
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 55d
They are drones after all...
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 55d
D4ve.
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