Lindsey Graham has been rumored for years to be closeted gay; the "ladybugs" thing specifically comes from a satire story (full text here) where Graham calls the moles on his taint his "little ladybugs".
The article notes of Mace: "Mace’s incessant political attention-seeking and often-bizarre behavior might well have alienated primary voters as much as the Epstein saga."
And notes of Massie: "Both Greene and Massie were bucking Trump on plenty of other things, too."
Like it's clear at least Massie is gone because he went against Trump and probably Mace too, but using a sample size of four to say "Yup, it's the Epstein files" is obviously unsound.
The article is correct on the grounds that it is too simple to reduce it to that singular cause.
The MTG resignation is just such a fucking unforced L on her part. Like, she had the right rallying around her. She could have been their Coo-coo-for-coco-puffs replacement for when the cholesterol eventually does its job. She probably could even have bilked over the remaining TYT and Jimmy Dore fans to her cause.
But at the end of the day I think its about Trump and loyalty to Trump. We're seeing it across primaries too; the reality is that actually, the "MAGA" part of MAGA aren't particularly engaged in electoralism. "America First" represented expanded voter-ship into demographics which didn't typically vote; so its not particularly surprising when they don't vote in mid-terms. And if you follow RW media, Trump has fallen quite far out of favor, although you'll see much mental gymnast-icking. And you see it in the exit data on the mid term primaries. Democrats are out-showing-up Republicans 2:1, compared to typical turnout.
So there are a few things going on:
1: Trump is still firmly in control of the party.
2: The party is falling out of favor with their activist base.
3: Republican equivalent of ABWD are still showing up, but the part of the Republican party that put Trump into power appears to have lost interest largely because of US support for Israel and the war in Iran.
This all points further to support the thesis that Trump won't allow free and fair elections. Because there is a real divide within MAGA/ America First right now.
If I had a lawn that faced an actual roadway I would make a Grand Ole Pedophile sign with a red elephant dragging a 12 year old looking boy on the ground by his ankle with his trunk as the boy tries to get purchase on the grass with his hands to escape.
If anyone does have said lawn and wants the sign I will have my wife whip up the art.
I mean.. to be fair, read the title. Not all of them are pedophiles, many are just really fucking stupid and took them months to realize something everyone else realized long time ago
EDIT: Or maybe they're trying to protect their own asses from future fallout? I welcome discussions instead of downvotes as a form of communication, Lemmy.
Try years. And only the dumbest of them like Marge actually "realized". Most of them knew all along and are just greedy amoral liars willing to support any pedo if it'll line their pockets.
So how comes they did the moral thing even if it costed their jobs? I'm not trying to defend them, I'm not even American, I just think it's really weird and would love a proper explanation
I haven't followed Massie and Mace very closely, but MTG and especially Bobo are dumb as fucking rocks. But even if they finally realized they were supporting pedos (and it only took them literal years to realize it because again, I can't say enough how absolutely brain dead they are), it's not like they've come around to the good side. Marge is mad because Dump lied to her, but it's not like she's changed her views on being a huge racist piece of utter garbage. She's never recanted about how (((the Jews^TM))) control the weather, or that she was wrong about blaming innocent people for pizzagate. Boebert married a guy who took his dick out in front of teens and she also promotes white nationalist talking points.
They're like MAGA voters who are against the Diarrhea in Chief. They kick up a fuss like little piss babies because their feefees got hurt or they can't afford their gas because Donny Diapers pushed the missile button, but they'll never vote for them queer loving dems. I try to have understanding because your intelligence level isn't something you can control, but it's hard to muster up the sympathy to soothe someone who's crying after they just finished whacking both me and themselves in the face with a hammer.
Lmao this was perfect even if I don't know who is Bobo
Man y'all are really pissed, understandably. Our parliament basically collapsed because our prime minister fired someone wrongfully (one person) and she lost support from the majority party (and therefore was going to lose elections, but quit herself). Just for a comparison.
And this is why as a foreigner I'm confused about US politics because if I google when did public became aware of the files - the first bombshells were in 2019 (Trump won in 2017), but it really only started trending in 2025 - after the elections.
Well. There’s an increasing number of republicans that are no longer republicans.
The Nazis masks are off because he has nothing to lose.
So I don’t think he could, but also he’s going to fuck shit up and that doesn’t matter.
A fairly large number of MAGA types believe him when he says he’s not in it, and it’s all just a set up. To be clear, my grandma lives is Missouri and if you go to watch the news, the least right wing is fox and there pretty much is no not-right wing; so they’re very heavily propagandized.
(Right related to US politics. I know we don’t have a real left wing group here.)
I suspect that this is why Marjorie Taylor Greene resigned - because Trump is petty and vindictive, and was sure to do everything he could - and everything he could cajole his rich cronies into doing - to destroy the Republicans who dared to try to make an issue of the fact that he's a statutory rapist.
People who follow Trump or the Republican agenda are brain-damaged or users. Do these people enjoy being racist/bigoted/misogynistic assholes? That is not the point. They control. It is intoxicating to control.
No slight is too petty to be used as an opportunity to stab another legislator in the back. The Epstein leaks are flashy news but way overkill for workaday congressional vendettas. Anything at all will do.
By the time November rolls around and everyone has endured 5 more months of greasy orange bullshit, I would not be surprised if one or more of these seats goes Democratic.
68 Comments
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world · 159 pts · 82d
Kinda tells you all you need to know about MAGAts. There is no bottom.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 83 pts · 82d
Well there is Lindsey Graham.
shweddy@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 82d
With his little lady bugs
gh0stb4tz@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 82d
Now I need someone to explain.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 82d
Lindsey Graham has been rumored for years to be closeted gay; the "ladybugs" thing specifically comes from a satire story (full text here) where Graham calls the moles on his taint his "little ladybugs".
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 81d
How do you realize you have moles on your perineum I cannot see mine.
HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 81d
Mirror
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 81d
Or your partner can inform you 🤷🏻
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 81d
We have the technology.
Mantzy81@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 81d
Damn it !gh0stb4tz@lemmy.world I didn't need to read that.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 81d
Good job !gh0stb4tz@lemmy.world make them read more weird shit
gh0stb4tz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
Hey, I’m just trying to do the lord’s good work here by asking questions.
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 82d
Every time I repress this, and I always have to feel like I'm discovering what this is for the first time.
Going to my happy place in 3....2....1.....
NABDad@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 82d
You know, I should've realized that I didn't want to know. Now I've added another item to the long list of things I can't unlearn.
AngryRobot@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 81d
🤮
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 81d
What's the opposite of a "power" bottom? Like a flimsy bottom. Or clean coal ass. Idk
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 81d
Dead Fish Bottom.
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 82d
There have been plenty… that’s a big part of the problem.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 82d
In the article you didn't read:
Never change, Lemmy.
(Edit: Not, of course, that you'd have to read an article to know that a sample size of four isn't sufficient to connect the two.)
artyom@piefed.social · 5 pts · 82d
The article is wrong
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 82d
Like it's clear at least Massie is gone because he went against Trump and probably Mace too, but using a sample size of four to say "Yup, it's the Epstein files" is obviously unsound.
The article is correct on the grounds that it is too simple to reduce it to that singular cause.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 81d
The MTG resignation is just such a fucking unforced L on her part. Like, she had the right rallying around her. She could have been their Coo-coo-for-coco-puffs replacement for when the cholesterol eventually does its job. She probably could even have bilked over the remaining TYT and Jimmy Dore fans to her cause.
But at the end of the day I think its about Trump and loyalty to Trump. We're seeing it across primaries too; the reality is that actually, the "MAGA" part of MAGA aren't particularly engaged in electoralism. "America First" represented expanded voter-ship into demographics which didn't typically vote; so its not particularly surprising when they don't vote in mid-terms. And if you follow RW media, Trump has fallen quite far out of favor, although you'll see much mental gymnast-icking. And you see it in the exit data on the mid term primaries. Democrats are out-showing-up Republicans 2:1, compared to typical turnout.
So there are a few things going on:
1: Trump is still firmly in control of the party.
2: The party is falling out of favor with their activist base.
3: Republican equivalent of ABWD are still showing up, but the part of the Republican party that put Trump into power appears to have lost interest largely because of US support for Israel and the war in Iran.
This all points further to support the thesis that Trump won't allow free and fair elections. Because there is a real divide within MAGA/ America First right now.
optimisticturtle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
optimisticturtle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 81d
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 81d
Funny, nobody accuses me of defending pedophiles because I’m not a pedo defender. It’s really not that hard to not defend pedophiles.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 83 pts · 81d
Republicans love pedophiles.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 81d
If I had a lawn that faced an actual roadway I would make a Grand Ole Pedophile sign with a red elephant dragging a 12 year old looking boy on the ground by his ankle with his trunk as the boy tries to get purchase on the grass with his hands to escape.
If anyone does have said lawn and wants the sign I will have my wife whip up the art.
kgbbot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 81d
I mean even without a proper yards I'd post it in other yards
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 81d
Can we come up with a new acronym? Can't think of an 'O' word rn but I got:
G rifters
O
P edophiles
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 81d
Guardians Of the Pedophiles
jestho@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 81d
Occult
Starstarz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
Obstruction
MunkyNutts@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 81d
Obscurists
REDACTED@infosec.pub · -12 pts · 81d
I mean.. to be fair, read the title. Not all of them are pedophiles, many are just really fucking stupid and took them months to realize something everyone else realized long time ago
EDIT: Or maybe they're trying to protect their own asses from future fallout? I welcome discussions instead of downvotes as a form of communication, Lemmy.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 81d
Try years. And only the dumbest of them like Marge actually "realized". Most of them knew all along and are just greedy amoral liars willing to support any pedo if it'll line their pockets.
Triasha@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 81d
Marg isn't dumb. She is cunning like a fox. Bobert is is the stupid one.
MTG miscalculated. She jumped ship and was punished for it. She thought she could ride the lightning.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 81d
She's not dumb dumb, but her batshittery overrides her average level of intelligence to make her basically act the same as dumbasses
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 81d
So how comes they did the moral thing even if it costed their jobs? I'm not trying to defend them, I'm not even American, I just think it's really weird and would love a proper explanation
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 81d
I haven't followed Massie and Mace very closely, but MTG and especially Bobo are dumb as fucking rocks. But even if they finally realized they were supporting pedos (and it only took them literal years to realize it because again, I can't say enough how absolutely brain dead they are), it's not like they've come around to the good side. Marge is mad because Dump lied to her, but it's not like she's changed her views on being a huge racist piece of utter garbage. She's never recanted about how (((the Jews^TM))) control the weather, or that she was wrong about blaming innocent people for pizzagate. Boebert married a guy who took his dick out in front of teens and she also promotes white nationalist talking points.
They're like MAGA voters who are against the Diarrhea in Chief. They kick up a fuss like little piss babies because their feefees got hurt or they can't afford their gas because Donny Diapers pushed the missile button, but they'll never vote for them queer loving dems. I try to have understanding because your intelligence level isn't something you can control, but it's hard to muster up the sympathy to soothe someone who's crying after they just finished whacking both me and themselves in the face with a hammer.
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 81d
Lmao this was perfect even if I don't know who is Bobo
Man y'all are really pissed, understandably. Our parliament basically collapsed because our prime minister fired someone wrongfully (one person) and she lost support from the majority party (and therefore was going to lose elections, but quit herself). Just for a comparison.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 81d
Except the registered republicans who vote, didn't vote for the representative who was part of the Files' release.
So because she wanted the Files to be released, the voter base thought that was a bad idea. The voters decided that.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 81d
Republicans voted for Trump twice, and they love him. Knowing full well that he’s a fucking child rapist.
Even if they are not personally pedos, they still love pedos.
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 80d
And this is why as a foreigner I'm confused about US politics because if I google when did public became aware of the files - the first bombshells were in 2019 (Trump won in 2017), but it really only started trending in 2025 - after the elections.
Do you believe he could win now?
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 80d
Well. There’s an increasing number of republicans that are no longer republicans.
The Nazis masks are off because he has nothing to lose.
So I don’t think he could, but also he’s going to fuck shit up and that doesn’t matter.
A fairly large number of MAGA types believe him when he says he’s not in it, and it’s all just a set up. To be clear, my grandma lives is Missouri and if you go to watch the news, the least right wing is fox and there pretty much is no not-right wing; so they’re very heavily propagandized.
(Right related to US politics. I know we don’t have a real left wing group here.)
kandoh@reddthat.com · 41 pts · 81d
In the GOP if you're not sufficiently pro-pedophilia you're out of a job
WatDabney@sopuli.xyz · 40 pts · 82d
I suspect that this is why Marjorie Taylor Greene resigned - because Trump is petty and vindictive, and was sure to do everything he could - and everything he could cajole his rich cronies into doing - to destroy the Republicans who dared to try to make an issue of the fact that he's a statutory rapist.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 23 pts · 82d
Also a regular rapist.
KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 82d
Also a regular rapist of children. Those minors were forced into sex under duress; AND were underage.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 4 pts · 81d
There is also testimony that he was part of the murder of an infant which was then dumped into Lake Michigan.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 81d
I thought she resigned right after her pension benefits were secured
Maybe that's just a big coincidence
WatDabney@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 81d
I'm sure that's not an accident but I doubt it was the point. She had (and likely still has) greater ambitions than that.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 36 pts · 82d
*encouraged/pressed for. They didn't force anything. The Epstein files are not fully released.
I'm sorry, but language fucking matters.
dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 pts · 82d
Yup yup. Also, no job true, but still have pension.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 81d
Did Nancy Mace get the over 5 years to vest?
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 32 pts · 81d
I do want to point out that at one point every single voting Republican in the house, 211, voted to shelf the Epstein vote: https://www.congress.gov/votes/house/119-1/194?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%22hres+580%22%7D&s=8&r=3
And all but 2 in the senate: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00512.htm
So, not a single Republican is redeemable, imo.
usernametbd@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 82d
Yet no consequences for Americans implicated in the Epstein files.
ActualGrapesTasteGreen@piefed.zip · 20 pts · 82d
I appreciate their sacrifice on many levels
Dionysus@leminal.space · 19 pts · 82d
Looks like they finally solidified the pedophile base under the far pro-pedophile wing.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 81d
I feel so bad for the onion these days. Where's the satire?
Steve@startrek.website · 15 pts · 82d
The files have not been released…
o0evillusion0o@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 81d
newton@feddit.online · 13 pts · 82d
Release the files
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 81d
Conservative voters are circling the wagons to protect the pedos.
No one should be calling them anything other than the PEDO PARTY going forward.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 81d
trump signed the bill himself, no doubt in some genius deflective move.
KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 81d
I cant believe Magic the Gathering is in a lineup with semi normal looking people.
desiccated_event@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 82d
People who follow Trump or the Republican agenda are brain-damaged or users. Do these people enjoy being racist/bigoted/misogynistic assholes? That is not the point. They control. It is intoxicating to control.
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 3 pts · 82d
"Job"...
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 82d
AIPAC has our country occupied by traitors and pedophiles
Arrandee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 82d
No slight is too petty to be used as an opportunity to stab another legislator in the back. The Epstein leaks are flashy news but way overkill for workaday congressional vendettas. Anything at all will do.
Let them fight.
thlibos@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 80d
By the time November rolls around and everyone has endured 5 more months of greasy orange bullshit, I would not be surprised if one or more of these seats goes Democratic.