People don’t think this is real, do they? sushi and pancake luncheon? This is hilarious and I love it but it’s just humor and not something to take seriously or analyze that deeply
Cleaning such a space is simply the cost of doing business. It's absurd to claim they'd have to just chunk the whole tank when a gallon of bleach and some water would nuke it clean.
You're right they have insurance, but I wouldn't make a claim and raise my rates over a nothingburger.
Lol absolutely no way you don’t know you got the norovirus. Death might seem like a viable option when it’s at it’s worst, it’s horrible. Even if mild there’s no way you don't know you’re cramping so bad you shit yourself. A sensory deprivation tank doesn’t make you unaware of your own body, in fact it can cause hyperawareness because it’s all you’ve got.
Bleach alone would get it, even watered down bleach. I sometimes have to shit in a bucket at our little camp. Splash of bleach, smell's gone instantly. Half the mass and all the stink is anaerobic bacteria.
Lawyer here: This is NOT legal advice as I'm not OP's retained counsel and I don't know all facts obviously, but on initial scan something isn't right... The posted story really stinks and this seems like a pretty shitty case overall. I would not take the work - I mean MAYBE if they were paying a lot, but it wouldn't be my number 1 priority, would be a number 2 at best.
This fake story brought to us by someone who never changed a baby's blowout. A squalling infant covered in shit is WAY worse than what allegedly happened here. Even a dog rolling around in shit is way grosser to clean.
Put on some gloves, not really needed because you're about to nuke ALL the bacteria, but it feels better. Pour some bleach on the mess, instant bacteria death and as soon as the air clears, zero smell. Wipe it up with disposable towels of some sort, place in plastic bag, place in trash. You don't have the luxury of such prep when dealing with a live animal.
I meant it as a joke, so his argument is he opened the isolation tank door and happily got into a fecal stew or while he was laying in it someone opened the door, shit in his tank and then closed the door and he didn't notice.
Yeah they should be insured for this and if they aren't that's on them. That's already such a vulnerable situation for you to find yourself in, to then get blamey sounds like they could use a bit more time in the tank themselves. Check your local laws around these types of establishments, often they are lumped in with spas, and see if they have legal requirements about insurance coverage. If they do, the insurance should cover it, and if they don't, report them.
This is honestly no different than accidentally vomiting in a taxi. They will charge you a fee, like 150$ where i am, to cover the cost of cleaning. Both are biohazards and both require a proper cleaning and sanitization, but no taxi driver is going to try and get you to replace, that's absurd, as is this. The 150$ amount is ostensibly their lost income from time and costs of cleaning.
Finally, they have presented an unrealized hypothetical as fact. They don't want to clean it. They say they don't think they can sanitize it but have they tried? They need to try and fail or point to official documentation from the manufacturer to back that up before they have a toenail to stand on. My money is on this: insurance will likely only cover the cost of sanitization, and not a replacement, again without something to back that up other than vibes or ick. I bet theres a cheap owner who doesnt want to make a claim on their policy and has hourly employees threatening to quit if assigned the task. Meanwhile they think they can get a brand new tank free out of this. That reimbursement for cleaning is going to be significantly less than 8000, and even if they reimbursed for loss, they'd depreciate it for age and wear, and it would still be high but less. But this amount is low enough (sub-10k) and the damage was accidental, not intentional, that any insurance company would have a hard time trying to hold you responsible for their costs of coverage.
I am not a lawyer but I've been in a situation where we had to claim the maximum our renters policy covered (100k!). Our insurance loved that we exhaustively documented everything and tried to go after the landlord for it as they were unambiguously responsible under the law, but insurance found multiple properties all with multiple leins and the owner had moved overseas, they gave up after a year. It costs them money, time, and effort to try so there needs to be a good chance of success on their part and theres both an upfront cost and diminishing returns over time.
I think your best bet is to research the laws and regulations around spas and just own them on the facts. Don't be above having a friend call them and ask a lot of questions like "I've never done this and have some concerns, and at some point ask them point blank about their insurance coverage. "What if I pass out or slip on a wet floor and need medical care, what does your insurance policy cover?" Present it like you assume they must have one you just want some reassurance about it.
Best of luck and I'm so sorry this happened to you. Screw these losers.
This is fake for so many of the reasons you pointed out! Bleach water would have that tank good to go in a hurry. And I'm sure they've clean up piss and vomit before. In any case, why would they make an insurance claim and possibly raise their rates?
Having a baby blow shit up their back is FAR worse. You can't take your time getting gloves and prepping and just hose the child down with bleach.
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DrWorm@piefed.blahaj.zone · 203 pts · 69d
I looked up the post and found this update they posted
The “it wasn’t me” defense is the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works · 145 pts · 69d
People don’t think this is real, do they? sushi and pancake luncheon? This is hilarious and I love it but it’s just humor and not something to take seriously or analyze that deeply
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 69d
Sushi and pancake luncheon is the kind of unhinged I associate with college students and nobody else lol
froh42@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 69d
It feels like "chatgpt i need a ragebait reddit article"
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 101 pts · 69d
A hwhat?
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 69d
If having hallucinations and diarrhea was on norovirus, then what's that? Shitting themselves and delusions seems like their bread and butter.
Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 144 pts · 69d
I'm pretty sure they should have insurance that would cover this.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 92 pts · 69d
Operative word should, never underestimate the unpreparedness of a small business owner... Especially one who operates in woo woo spaces.
ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 69d
Seems like they're now operating in poo poo spaces.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 69d
Cleaning such a space is simply the cost of doing business. It's absurd to claim they'd have to just chunk the whole tank when a gallon of bleach and some water would nuke it clean.
You're right they have insurance, but I wouldn't make a claim and raise my rates over a nothingburger.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 115 pts · 69d
Quite the literal shitpost
kalapala@sopuli.xyz · 24 pts · 69d
What a shit show.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 69d
I try!
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 110 pts · 69d
Lol absolutely no way you don’t know you got the norovirus. Death might seem like a viable option when it’s at it’s worst, it’s horrible. Even if mild there’s no way you don't know you’re cramping so bad you shit yourself. A sensory deprivation tank doesn’t make you unaware of your own body, in fact it can cause hyperawareness because it’s all you’ve got.
But whatever. Good internet story.
yilian@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 69d
One hundred percent this.
Signed,
Noro survivor - 2015, never forget
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 69d
Yeah, you get a little ptsd from a bad bout.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 73 pts · 69d
From sensory deprivation tank to septic tank in 1 customer
limer@lemmy.ml · 43 pts · 69d
I suspect in real life many people pee in isolation tanks; and sanitation after each customer is a regular cost of business
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 69d
Steam clean and bleach would do the trick. The story is probably fake.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 69d
Bleach alone would get it, even watered down bleach. I sometimes have to shit in a bucket at our little camp. Splash of bleach, smell's gone instantly. Half the mass and all the stink is anaerobic bacteria.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 69d
Bleach to sanitize it. Steam clean it to get debris out of whatever cracks and seams there might be.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 69d
Ah! I'm imagining a much simpler area to clean. You got me looking at pics and the tanks are basically bathtubs.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 69d
If you have staining on the other hand...
silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk · 41 pts · 69d
very
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 9 pts · 69d
The OP blessed us with a true shit post.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 69d
Some well-intended lawyer needs to take this on pro Bono. This could be the case that defines your career!
Snapz@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 69d
Lawyer here: This is NOT legal advice as I'm not OP's retained counsel and I don't know all facts obviously, but on initial scan something isn't right... The posted story really stinks and this seems like a pretty shitty case overall. I would not take the work - I mean MAYBE if they were paying a lot, but it wouldn't be my number 1 priority, would be a number 2 at best.
InFerNo@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 69d
Bra-vo 👏
Ulvain@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 69d
That's pretty shitty advice, though
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 69d
Pro-boner, depending upon what kind of shit you're into.
TORFdot0@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 69d
I don’t know if there has been a more fitting post to this community
shalafi@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 69d
This fake story brought to us by someone who never changed a baby's blowout. A squalling infant covered in shit is WAY worse than what allegedly happened here. Even a dog rolling around in shit is way grosser to clean.
Put on some gloves, not really needed because you're about to nuke ALL the bacteria, but it feels better. Pour some bleach on the mess, instant bacteria death and as soon as the air clears, zero smell. Wipe it up with disposable towels of some sort, place in plastic bag, place in trash. You don't have the luxury of such prep when dealing with a live animal.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 68d
That was caused by a virus not bacteria (but they do live in the excrement)
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 68d
What bleach won't get, high alcohol content wet wipes will.
LwL@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 68d
Norovirus is resistant to alcohol. That's part of what makes it so infectious. Not sure about bleach though.
That said iirc it doesn't survive on surfaces super long so just wait a month or sth
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 68d
A month's worth of business is probably more expensive than having it cleaned.
SarahFromOz@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 68d
Now THIS is a shitpost.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 69d
Critics are hailing 'The Diarrhea Clause' as Tim Allen's triumphant return to cinema.
Miller@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 69d
Say it was like that when you got in there.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 69d
Apparently, that's what the original poster went with, too.
Miller@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 69d
I meant it as a joke, so his argument is he opened the isolation tank door and happily got into a fecal stew or while he was laying in it someone opened the door, shit in his tank and then closed the door and he didn't notice.
Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 69d
That's cause all tanks are like that.
a_jeering_serpent@sopuli.xyz · 21 pts · 69d
Yeah they should be insured for this and if they aren't that's on them. That's already such a vulnerable situation for you to find yourself in, to then get blamey sounds like they could use a bit more time in the tank themselves. Check your local laws around these types of establishments, often they are lumped in with spas, and see if they have legal requirements about insurance coverage. If they do, the insurance should cover it, and if they don't, report them.
This is honestly no different than accidentally vomiting in a taxi. They will charge you a fee, like 150$ where i am, to cover the cost of cleaning. Both are biohazards and both require a proper cleaning and sanitization, but no taxi driver is going to try and get you to replace, that's absurd, as is this. The 150$ amount is ostensibly their lost income from time and costs of cleaning.
Finally, they have presented an unrealized hypothetical as fact. They don't want to clean it. They say they don't think they can sanitize it but have they tried? They need to try and fail or point to official documentation from the manufacturer to back that up before they have a toenail to stand on. My money is on this: insurance will likely only cover the cost of sanitization, and not a replacement, again without something to back that up other than vibes or ick. I bet theres a cheap owner who doesnt want to make a claim on their policy and has hourly employees threatening to quit if assigned the task. Meanwhile they think they can get a brand new tank free out of this. That reimbursement for cleaning is going to be significantly less than 8000, and even if they reimbursed for loss, they'd depreciate it for age and wear, and it would still be high but less. But this amount is low enough (sub-10k) and the damage was accidental, not intentional, that any insurance company would have a hard time trying to hold you responsible for their costs of coverage.
I am not a lawyer but I've been in a situation where we had to claim the maximum our renters policy covered (100k!). Our insurance loved that we exhaustively documented everything and tried to go after the landlord for it as they were unambiguously responsible under the law, but insurance found multiple properties all with multiple leins and the owner had moved overseas, they gave up after a year. It costs them money, time, and effort to try so there needs to be a good chance of success on their part and theres both an upfront cost and diminishing returns over time.
I think your best bet is to research the laws and regulations around spas and just own them on the facts. Don't be above having a friend call them and ask a lot of questions like "I've never done this and have some concerns, and at some point ask them point blank about their insurance coverage. "What if I pass out or slip on a wet floor and need medical care, what does your insurance policy cover?" Present it like you assume they must have one you just want some reassurance about it.
Best of luck and I'm so sorry this happened to you. Screw these losers.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 69d
This is fake for so many of the reasons you pointed out! Bleach water would have that tank good to go in a hurry. And I'm sure they've clean up piss and vomit before. In any case, why would they make an insurance claim and possibly raise their rates?
Having a baby blow shit up their back is FAR worse. You can't take your time getting gloves and prepping and just hose the child down with bleach.
knobpolisher@feddit.nl · 17 pts · 69d
you could make a religion out of this
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 69d
It's not your fault their tank worked too good, and you "relaxed."
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 69d
I'm calling Poe.
sunsofold@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 69d
To ask about the law or to send this guy to the pit with the pendulum?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 69d
It was an honest mistake! Nevermore, I swear!
WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social · 3 pts · 69d
At the same time?