In John Milton‘s Paradise Lost, he’s practically a hero (specifically, an anti-hero) and one of the most sympathetic characters in literary history. Milton got into a lot of trouble for it at the time.
In Dante‘s Inferno, the ninth circle of hell is Satan, frozen solid, in a block/pit of ice.
But then why would a prisoner want to bring more people into prison? Because misery loves company? If I were Satan, I wouldn't want my oppressor to get more playthings.
According to some versions of the lore, it's because he wants to corrupt God's creation out of jealousy. If he couldn't get it his way, it should all burn.
Specifically from Milton‘s Paradise lost, Lucifer is outraged that, when God created mankind, he gave them something he never gave the angels: the free will to choose whether or not to worship God. Angels, the original creation of God, and who were supposed to be perfect, were never given the free will whether or not to worship God. From their creation, they were always forced to worship God.
It was Lucifer‘s argument that, of course, he would choose to, were he actually given that choice. He went to God and demanded that angels be given the same choice as mankind, and God basically told him to go fuck himself. That angels are perfect, and to imply otherwise by suggesting he give angels any kind of choice was, itself, blasphemy.
And thus the war of heaven began, splitting half of the angels of heaven against the other half in a war that lasted millennia. Eventually, the angels that fought for freedom, led by Lucifer, were cast out of heaven into a newly created realm called hell. In their fall, which landed them in hell so very hard, it twisted and mutilated all of them. And that’s how demons were created.
So, this is the motivation of Lucifer, now called Satan, to constantly tempt humankind away from the glory of God, and to choose to worship something else. To tempt humankind into sin... Because they can choose. It’s not so much out of jealousy, but out of spite.
The most confusing part of this is that Lucifer was able to make the choice to say "wait, this is fucked up." If they were truly forced to worship God, no angel would have been able to say that 🤷
Oh, I definitely prefer John Milton‘s version from Paradise Lost. It’s by far the most interesting, and, at least, consistent. However, reading it was a fucking nightmare. Eat my ass, iambic pentameter. I never would’ve gotten through it without the annotated version from Norton’s Anthology of English Literature.
Satan isn’t evil. He is to God what Linux is to Windows: Freedom, independence, choice, responsibility. No wonder those in power want their sheep to believe otherwise.
TempleOS (formerly J Operating System, LoseThos, and SparrowOS) is a biblical-themed lightweight operating system (OS) designed to be the Third Temple from the Hebrew Bible. It was created by American computer programmer Terry A. Davis, who developed it alone over the course of a decade after a series of manic episodes that he later described as a revelation from God. TempleOS could be considered as an example of coding as an art form, with the nature of his psychological instability and its influence over the project lending to comparisons to similar outsider art.
-TempleOS page on Wikipedia.
That... uh. That sounds interesting. I like to distrohop so ... any one know how I can try it?
You know what? They've already lost it. It's gone, BUD! Whatever it is, whatever they were... Gone. He who looks into the abyss realizes that there's nothin' looking back at him and the only thing he sees is his own character. You understand? Bud? The abyss? The shit abyss?
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NateNate60@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 66d
In Catholic theology, anyway, Satan is not the boss of hell. He is a prisoner in it just like everyone else, just more notorious than the rest.
homes@piefed.world · 20 pts · 66d
In John Milton‘s Paradise Lost, he’s practically a hero (specifically, an anti-hero) and one of the most sympathetic characters in literary history. Milton got into a lot of trouble for it at the time.
In Dante‘s Inferno, the ninth circle of hell is Satan, frozen solid, in a block/pit of ice.
bless@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 66d
Why didn't Satan use the brimstone fires of hell to melt the ice? Is he stupid? /jk
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 66d
But then why would a prisoner want to bring more people into prison? Because misery loves company? If I were Satan, I wouldn't want my oppressor to get more playthings.
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 66d
According to some versions of the lore, it's because he wants to corrupt God's creation out of jealousy. If he couldn't get it his way, it should all burn.
homes@piefed.world · 11 pts · 66d
Specifically from Milton‘s Paradise lost, Lucifer is outraged that, when God created mankind, he gave them something he never gave the angels: the free will to choose whether or not to worship God. Angels, the original creation of God, and who were supposed to be perfect, were never given the free will whether or not to worship God. From their creation, they were always forced to worship God.
It was Lucifer‘s argument that, of course, he would choose to, were he actually given that choice. He went to God and demanded that angels be given the same choice as mankind, and God basically told him to go fuck himself. That angels are perfect, and to imply otherwise by suggesting he give angels any kind of choice was, itself, blasphemy.
And thus the war of heaven began, splitting half of the angels of heaven against the other half in a war that lasted millennia. Eventually, the angels that fought for freedom, led by Lucifer, were cast out of heaven into a newly created realm called hell. In their fall, which landed them in hell so very hard, it twisted and mutilated all of them. And that’s how demons were created.
So, this is the motivation of Lucifer, now called Satan, to constantly tempt humankind away from the glory of God, and to choose to worship something else. To tempt humankind into sin... Because they can choose. It’s not so much out of jealousy, but out of spite.
bless@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 66d
The most confusing part of this is that Lucifer was able to make the choice to say "wait, this is fucked up." If they were truly forced to worship God, no angel would have been able to say that 🤷
7uWqKj@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 66d
Great summary 👍
akilou@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 59d
So then who's the boss of hell?
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 59d
Well, according to Catholics, God is the boss of heaven, hell, Earth, and the entire universe.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 66d
Why do people just GIVE their soul to Jesus when Satan is willing to pay you for it?
7uWqKj@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 66d
Satan doesn’t want your soul. He wants you to use it for yourselves.
homes@piefed.world · 3 pts · 66d
Technically, he wants to use it to get back at God for casting him and his buddies into hell in the first place.
It’s complicated
7uWqKj@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 66d
Depends upon whether you subscribe to Christian propaganda, medieval literature, or modern-day non-esoteric Satanism.
homes@piefed.world · 2 pts · 66d
Oh, I definitely prefer John Milton‘s version from Paradise Lost. It’s by far the most interesting, and, at least, consistent. However, reading it was a fucking nightmare. Eat my ass, iambic pentameter. I never would’ve gotten through it without the annotated version from Norton’s Anthology of English Literature.
7uWqKj@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 66d
Satan isn’t evil. He is to God what Linux is to Windows: Freedom, independence, choice, responsibility. No wonder those in power want their sheep to believe otherwise.
ignotum@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 66d
Linux and Windows are but two sides of the same coin, mere tools of evil created to lure us away from the divine perfection that is TempleOS 🙏
7uWqKj@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 66d
Amen! Oh sorry, I meant Ave Satanas of course.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 61d
That... uh. That sounds interesting. I like to distrohop so ... any one know how I can try it?
ignotum@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 61d
Looks like templeos.net should have all the resources you'll need to set it up
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 66d
The show Lucifer is fun way to explore that.
homes@piefed.world · 5 pts · 66d
That show is a fun way to explore lots of things 😉
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 66d
he isnt
he is tempting them to sin
but when the time comes
he will be thrown into the abyss
Rooster326@programming.dev · 1 pts · 66d
You know what? They've already lost it. It's gone, BUD! Whatever it is, whatever they were... Gone. He who looks into the abyss realizes that there's nothin' looking back at him and the only thing he sees is his own character. You understand? Bud? The abyss? The shit abyss?