Trump threatens to ‘take over’ Iran if Tehran closes the Strait of Hormuz in profanity filled tirade: report

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-threat-hormuz-ceasefire-b2999930.html

Donald Trump threatened to “take over” Iran if the Strait of Hormuz was not immediately re-opened, the president told Fox News.

His latest round of threats came in response to news Saturday that Iran was once again closing the key waterway, just days after signing an agreement to ensure that traffic could flow through.

Iran announced that it would close the Strait of Hormuz after Israeli forces continued an all-out assault into Lebanon aimed at dislodging Hezbollah militants.

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CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 65d (4 replies)

So much winning and no pointless, endless wars in the Middle East.

Seriously, if you are a conservative still spouting these lies, you might want to get your head checked. Unfortunately, there are 30-some percent of people in this country still supporting this complete dumbass.

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 65d (3 replies)

Its really easy to avoid the “liberal media” these days.

zwerg@feddit.org · 11 pts · 65d (2 replies)

What liberal media is there any more?

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Well exactly

Lydon_Feen@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 65d (19 replies)
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87Six@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 65d (3 replies)

I want to be mad at the Rword use, but in Trump's case it's accurate so it doesn't sound like a slur

Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 65d

To delay or impede the development or progress of : to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment

Sounds like calling conservatives retards is accurate based on the dictionary definition of the word....

Lydon_Feen@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 65d (1 reply)

It's not. I wouldn't use it against the people it was used to make fun of, because they certainly don't deserve it.

Trump, and his ilk, are so revolting, disgusting, insulting, ignorant and crass that no other single word would cut it. We need to repurpose it.

tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 65d

But that is akin to saying it's revolting, disgusting, crass for someone to be intellectually disabled. There are millions of words and we can even make up entirely new ones, why do we need to repurpose an ableist slur?

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 65d (13 replies)

I thing people on the left need to appreciate the power behind that word and why it needs to be used against these fascist assholes.

artyom@piefed.social · 4 pts · 65d (2 replies)

I think you need to appreciate that some people are clinically "retarded" and importantly not fascist assholes and don't deserve the comparison.

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Literally every word to imply someone isn't smart (idiot, stupid, dumb, etc) was once the "clinical" term until it naturally evolved into an insult specifically targeted against people, not for a genuine cognitive impairment, but people doing genuinely fucking stupid things.

The word "retarded" used as an insult shouldn't be treated any differently as side from the emphasis it holds in co.parison to the others.

artyom@piefed.social · 0 pts · 65d

idiot, stupid, dumb, etc)

Please do share the clinical equivalent

tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 65d

No, fuck fascist pieces of shit, we don't need to use ableist slurs, what power does it have? It has no power against Trump or his followers, at most it will make them mad and hit their wife more. I'm sorry I already replied but this is just so irritating to see so much and makes no sense at all and only hurts vulnerable people.

Lydon_Feen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d (1 reply)

It needs to be recycled to reference only absolutely inept, ignorant, malignant pieces of shit like Trump.

People with cognitive impairement of any kind don't deserve to be insulted and made fun of.

But Trumptards? Absolutely

tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 65d

The offense doesn't come from who it's directed towards, using it as a slur maintains the idea that it's disgusting or malignant to be disabled. How would it sound if people called them the N word, or gay? They would be offended at that wouldn't they?

tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 65d (6 replies)

I'm sure a young person with a learning disabiliy who gets called that by bullies would love if people used it more. I know it's really great everytime people call Trump gay. Can you explain why it needs to be used?

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 65d (3 replies)

It wouldn't be that different than targeting a child like that with words like "stupid" or "idiot" or "dumb ass".

Why is "retarded" magically different? The others if misused against those with learning disabilities in earnest would count as slurs too.

tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 65d (2 replies)

Yeah we should avoid those terms as well, many people do.

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Or we can accept that these words are not inherently taegetted at society's vulnerable and realize context actually matters.

White knighting and word policing in the face of an actual fascist takeover and destruction of the country is some really badly placed priorities. Shows a lack of sense of what's actually important.

tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 65d

By that logic we could excuse any slur. I agree there are more pressing issues, it's not a priority or a thing I spend a lot of time arguing about, but it's a very simple task to use a different word that doesn't hurt and marginalize disabled people. I think having respect for vulnerable people is still important with everything going on. Part of a fascist takeover is the language they use, words reflect people's culture and using ableist slurs is reflective of fascist ideals like eugenics.

couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Trump's gay?

tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 65d

No probably not, maybe bi, but I just mean like talking about him being gay for Putin or whatever, pictures of them kissing, that sort of thing.

couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 65d

US voted for another 4 seasons

TheLastOfHisName@piefed.social · 56 pts · 65d (3 replies)
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Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 65d (2 replies)

The problem is Bibi gives you briefcases full of $100 bills and you couldn't care less what was actually good for anybody

Substance_P@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Or that Mossad is the number one foreign agency that spies on the US government and has been for decades, that it holds kompromat material on much of the elite, and that this keeps Trump on a leash. There is no rational reason we kiss Bibi's feet other than blackmail. Jeffrey Epstein was the most successful foreign agent in world history

nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 65d

Trump probably won’t care about any dirt anyone has on him, and neither will about a third of the US population. However, point out his incompetence and you'll be kimmeled by this extremely insecure little whiner before you can say “reflecting pool”.

Hayduke@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 65d (2 replies)

This is a guy who has lost all control of a very bad situation. Republicans all seem fine with it. They talk a game, but avoid the mechanisms in place to put an end to it all. They are neck deep in the sunken cost of supporting a moron and they are out of moves. Good times.

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 65d (1 reply)

When incompetence comes home to roost

toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 65d

WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Donny couldn’t win against algae…

nullspace@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 65d

The pool's getting a $200 billion payout to begin talks on whether or not it will seek algae-blooming capability.

Wytch@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 65d

Master negotiator he's the best negotiator, no one's ever seen negotiations like this before

YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 65d

If your last threat didn’t work, add more swear words!

Zier@fedia.io · 27 pts · 65d (2 replies)

This will be just like covid, it will go on and one and many people will die needlessly, not to mention the financial cost. The only difference is this time HE created this entire problem.

fodor@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 65d (1 reply)

While it's true that Donald is directly responsible for this horrible loss of life, it's also true that the world will hold the US government responsible long after Donald is out of office or even alive.

A war is not fought by one person. In a democracy, or at least a country that passes for one, national level leaders are all responsible for such actions.

impairedimperator@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 65d

Not just the government, lol.

Look at any comment section under a post about Ukraine. Nobody cares whether some particular russian supports the war or not. Either they're at fault for supporting it, or they are at fault for not doing enough to stop it. Hell, even the ones that fled the country in an effort to avoid supporting it indirectly are sometimes considered responsible.

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 65d

Israeli forces continued an all-out assault into Lebanon aimed at dislodging Hezbollah militants.

leadore@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 65d (3 replies)

It would be much more effective if he "took over" Israel instead of Iran, since the "agreement" stipulates that it is dependent on Israel stopping its attacks on Lebanon.

couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip · -19 pts · 65d (2 replies)

Or take over Hezbollah and stop their attacks on Israel

theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 65d (1 reply)

You mean the genocidal apartheid state that is armed with nuclear weapons and keeps attacking it's neighbours?

couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 65d

No nukes...yet

tigermountain@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 65d

What a master class of negotiation strategies.

Steve@startrek.website · 18 pts · 65d

The guy who already surrendered?

SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 15 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Based on the track record, I hope that Iran can do a better job with the reflecting pool.

newton@feddit.online · 4 pts · 65d

And the final in FIFA

Formfiller@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 65d

NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 65d

We're back to this again eh?

ceenote@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 65d (9 replies)

We've now confirmed that it takes longer than 4 months to teach him something. Further testing might be needed is probably gonna happen whether we want it or not.

Goodeye8@piefed.social · 23 pts · 65d (2 replies)

I'm more amazed he hasn't thrown Isreal under the bus already. He hasn't had an issue with throwing people under the bus before, and yet somehow Israel perseveres despite Iran publicly humiliating him for months.

Makes you wonder what kind of dirt Isreal has on him.

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 65d

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 65d

Just for the record it's "Israel." Not real.

arctanthrope@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 65d (4 replies)

by his own admission, he acts the same now as he did when he was 5, and I see no reason to doubt that assessment. so it apparently takes more than 75 years to teach him anything

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 65d (3 replies)

I literally don't get how someone can be that... stagnant. Like my personality ebbs and flows constantly based off of what information I take in, sure it usually doesn't effect how I act and present on a day to day but like any form of evolution a little over a long time is actually quite a lot.

Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 65d

Mental disease lol

arctanthrope@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 65d (1 reply)

imagine a 5-year-old with enough money, that every time a normal 5-year-old would be denied and throw a tantrum, he can instead pay someone enough to do whatever he wants. do you think that kid would ever meaningfully change his desires or behaviors, and grow into a socially and emotionally healthy adult?

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 65d

Perhaps not functional but I would still expect some amount of change, but then again I'm more or less forced by instinct to collect knowledge so it may just be alien to me. It's quite literally incomprehensible that someone would through intention or nature not evolve as a person past the age of five, hell id expect puberty to cause something to shift.

nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 1 pts · 65d

I guarantee, the tests will end eventually

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 65d (1 reply)

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 65d

I thought that was legitimately MacArthur but what the hell

fodor@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 65d

Oh Donald Donald, nobody believes a word you say. You're impotent!

ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 65d (2 replies)

Maybe if you give them 600 billion, Donny.

Art of the Deal motherfucker.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d (1 reply)

What about a plane? Everyone loves planes

ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 65d

Bitches love planes.

Steve@startrek.website · 11 pts · 65d

You and what army?

Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 65d

Lol good luck

jaybone@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Oh, I thought the war was over. Silly me.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 65d

This announcement was timed to coincide with his big UFC Birthday Fight. We always knew it wasn't going to stick.

D1re_W0lf@piefed.social · 8 pts · 65d

Ahhh. The eternal circle of life Friday / Monday markets.

Dzheyk@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 65d

Yeah ok there bud 😮‍💨👍

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 65d

"Sure you will Skippy."

Nothing makes a doofus look weaker than threatening to do something that EVERYBODY knows he is totally incapable of.

a_good_hunter@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 65d

TACO

ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 5 pts · 65d

The dementia is strong in that one...

BetaBlake@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 65d

It's been closed you dumb bitch

TheAlbacor@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 65d

Maybe we should take control of Israel or let them get what's coming to them.

wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io · 3 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Well, this is a step in the right direction from “wiping an entire civilization off the map.”

newton@feddit.online · 1 pts · 65d

Talking of murica ,we know

stretch2m@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 65d

Did such a great job last time. It's a bold move, Cotton.

thefluffiest@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 65d (1 reply)

How? By paying them another 300 billion?

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 65d

300 billion isn't a pay-off. It's wartime restitution for wrecking shit and killing people.