Moved to using KDE recently and it's everything I've ever wanted in aesthetics and customization. Unfortunately, dolphin doesn't refresh when files are moved around and while I tried to accept it, I just can't. Showing me where files are is literally the only job of a file manager.
Are there any other file managers that can take all the themes and colors in KDE? I love having a full theme but I can't stand this manual refresh thing.
46 Comments
blackbrook@mander.xyz · 27 pts · 57d
It updates for me. For example (and I just tested this), if some other process copies a file into the directory I have open in dolphin, I see the file appear pretty instantly.
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 56d
That's great, what do I have to do to make mine do that?
MouldyCat@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 56d
Check your inotify maximums - this is the system which monitors directory contents and notifies applications of changes. These maximums used to be pretty low, but should be high enough for most users these days. Do you tend to work with multiple directories containing lots of files?
See what you get when you run these two commands:
You can increase them temporarily like so and see if it helps:
If it does help, add to /etc/sysctl.conf (or a file in /etc/sysctl.d/).
olafurp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 56d
It works on mine out of the box so it's probably related to something further down the stack. I probably can't help but what distro?
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 56d
What distro are you using?
Debian quite literally calls the package “dolphin” so running this command will purge it and reinstall it;
sudo apt purge dolphin; sudo apt install dolphin -yI know the Windows version has issues updating folders live, but on my Debian machine have not encountered such issue.
Alternatively you can purge KDE itself and reinstall everything.
sudo apt purge *kde*; sudo apt install kde-full kde-standard kde-plasma-desktop task-kde-desktop sddm -yonlinepersona@programming.dev · 12 pts · 57d
Might be this bug. You can add more information to it and possibly help the devs fix it. There's another one that seems to be the issue, but presenting differently.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · -8 pts · 57d
But this is a main fetaure. It shouldn't be capable of just bugging out.
onlinepersona@programming.dev · 10 pts · 56d
You'd think walking was a basic feature of humans, but so many do it incorrectly.
It doesn't seem like you're a engineer: everything and anything can fail. It's just how the world works.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · -3 pts · 56d
Dymonika@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 43d
Well... I guess not everyone's as smart as you, then.
waldfee@feddit.org · 2 pts · 56d
Just press F5 when that happens. It's not that deep
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 56d
First - this is a stupid take.
But second - KDE is easily the buggiest de/wm I've ever used. Things just not working sometimes is basically a feature.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 56d
I haven't had issues with bugginess in years, but it probably depends upon how you're using it.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 56d
Not been my experience at all.
olafurp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 56d
KDE has been stable recently unless you're on some rolling release.
rishado@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 56d
Have you donated to KDE? Have you contributed to its development? Cause you sure as hell didn't pay for it so maybe shut up or be a little more grateful that a free and open DE is only a few features away from a competitor developed by billion dollar companies
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 56d
Go back to slashdot in the '90s with that attitude.
rishado@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 56d
I mean you're criticizing a piece of free software like they made it just for you. Grow up and have some perspective
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 56d
Oh my - yes the KDE team is surely above criticism.
Dymonika@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 43d
Hey man, they gave us Kdenlive. That thing has singlehandedly taken down Sony VEGAS Pro and so many other worse, closed-source, commercial video-editing programs. If you dislike Dolphin, find any one of the other thousands of file managers, but don't attack KDE.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 56d
What, you would find it ok, if, let's say in your favorite text editor, the text cursor just stopped moving?
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 56d
Another stupid take. You're on a roll.
rishado@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 56d
Ironically you comment like you were actually a contributor on slashdot. Curt, rude, short, holier than thou
jimerson@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 57d
I have the same issue on all four machines that use Dolphin. I've accepted having to hit F5 to refresh and I'm not looking to switch file managers, but if there is a fix I'd love to implement it!
jlow@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 57d
If you like virtual buttons you can also put a "Refresh" button in the top bar of Dolphin, have had that for years (and only need to use it very rarely nowadays).
jimerson@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 57d
Thanks for the heads up. Not a perfect fix, but I think it'll help a little!
MouldyCat@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 56d
Copying my comment to OP below - it might be worth checking:
Check your inotify maximums - this is the system which monitors directory contents and notifies applications of changes. These maximums used to be pretty low, but should be high enough for most users these days. Do you tend to work with multiple directories containing lots of files?
See what you get when you run these two commands:
You can increase them temporarily like so and see if it helps:
If it does help, add to /etc/sysctl.conf (or a file in /etc/sysctl.d/).
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 56d
My dolphin does not behave like that. So there is something else going on for you.
mub@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 56d
Does this happen when browsing local files or just network shares (SMB or Vs ssh) ?
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 45d
Both. All network share and any local files edited outside of the dolphin. Do if I mkdir on my pc it won't show until I close dolphin or F5. If I copy and paste through sftp it just pretends it didn't happen until I close dolphin. This is not true on Nautilus.
Admirable_Bagel_0989@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 56d
My dolphin takes ~0.5 seconds, I don't really see any problem, but, if you want try something PCMan file manager updated instantly, I just don't like the icons but it's up for you.
If it helps I'm running Kubuntu 26.04 LTS
PS: "Files" by "The Gnome Project" has better icons and UX and updates instantly-
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 45d
It does and I've been using it lately, but I really want my pretty theming.
MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 56d
Try Krusader for a different KDE file manager. I quite like how it looks but don't use it regularly.
just_another_person@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 57d
Is it only happening with folders that are or have symlinks?
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 57d
I'm not sure how to tell? It happens with any media I move, either on my computer or through sftp.
kunaltyagi@programming.dev · 1 pts · 57d
Which version of KDE/dolphin are you using?
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev · 3 pts · 57d
I like thunar with Arc theme but it's Gtk based, and you really need to install thunar and its plugins (volman, archive manager, etc)
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 56d
Are you using btrfs by any chance? I think copy-on-write can sometimes cause delays in Dolphin. Mine doesn't always update the free disk space right away when I delete a file, for example.
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 45d
I can't say I know what that is.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 45d
Oh sorry! In Linux there are different ways of formatting your drives, kind of like FAT32 and NTFS in Windows, if you're familiar with those? Anyway, ext4 is like the old reliable in Linux, and btrfs is the newer one which I think is the default on some distros now.
Anyway, if you open up Konsole and type lsblk -f it should tell you which one you have. I don't think you can change it without reformatting and starting over though.
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 43d
Oh ok, I know what page we're on now. I use ext4 for all my drives, save for 2 loaner flash drives in NTFS and the drive for my hacked 360 in fat32.
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 56d
i haven't used kde for quite a while; but maybe konqueror could work better?
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 56d
Press F5 to refresh.
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 45d
That's dumb, even windows isn't that dumb.