One day kids won't understand the reference and will probably come up with stuff like "That's funny, didn't I donate my left testicle as required by Microsoft government for population maintenance purposes? Why are they asking me to donate my remaining testicle?
I have to use Teams for work and it baffles me how unbelievably bad the interface is. Everything that should be easy and quick to do is made difficult and time consuming. Every time you try to do something simple you'd expect to be able to, it is blocked or limited in such a way that you can't do it and you have to find a workaround. It fights you in every way it can whenever you're trying to accomplish something. You also have to sign in with two factor authentication multiple times every day. I don't understand how this so-called "productivity" suite is even tolerated by private companies. It cripples productivity.
Your IT has set up Conditional Access policies with a Sign-in Frequency set too low (it should really be labeled as a period, because it defines the time period that will occur before reauthentication is required). For regular users like all of you, forcing reauthentication that many times each day is excessive and just cruel on the users. They maybe thought it would make them super secure, but it only trains the users that MFA is an annoyance rather than an important security feature.
It’s a setting that can easily be changed, so make some noise and see if you can get some feedback passed through your org structure to IT.
I don't think I've ever had to sign into Teams (PR Outlook, for that matter) in my desktop. Mobile, I have to after changing my password. I assumed all the MS apps signed me in with my domain login on my laptop. On weird issue I have is things like SharePoint and Dynamics 365 asking me to sign in again after its already brought up the site, and clicking the button to do it just brings a blank pop-up that immediately disappears and I'm logged "for real" I guess.
I've worked at different places that used Teams, and that thing with having to re- login regularly is certainly fault of whoever administers Teams within your organization.
Yep. I sign in once when the app is opened (which happens automatically as I’m logged into the computer as my Entra ID) and then am never prompted again until I close and reopen Teams.
Something is misconfigured in the environment, or there is a security policy that is set way too high, or one is scoped incorrectly. It is definitely not the normal or expected user experience.
Teams has a lot of faults, but that one is on your org’s admins and security team. Hopefully for you it’s a mistake and not done intentionally.
Not in my experience. I sign into lots of different systems every day and run Teams on all of them, and I never see any MFA prompts so long as I’m on a managed asset. Every system logs in to Teams automatically just by opening the Teams app.
Now, if you’re talking about a pinned app or SharePoint link or something once you’re in the app, maybe. But default chat and meetings should be the same experience, in terms of authentication workflow for the user, as launching and using Outlook.
Probably missed calls. It'll keep showing a notification bubble in both activity and calls until you bother clicking the missed call as if that makes any difference or sense to anyone or anything but the notification counter.
Yeah, those don't work well with Outlook. I get an e-mail from Microsoft telling me to login to the web version only to see that someone put a 👍 on my e-mail. It completely defies the purpose.
Microsoft really knows how to keep office workers occupied doing nothing at all.
Imagine finding a log with something like "we couldn't stop shareholders, our planet is doomed. We will start with a new colony on the planet closer to sun, perhaps this time we will not destroy our home"
Artemis II astronauts going around the Moon: "I have two Outlooks, neither of which works"
Astronauts during the first Mars mission: "I previously had two Teams versions, neither of which worked, and now there's apparently a third one, and it doesn't work either"
Don't give him what he says his life goal is (die on Mars). It would be way more terrific if he died in a supercar crash (like the one he had in 2000 with Peter Thiel as passenger in a $1M McLaren F1, the fastest production car back then).
Or maybe you believe in the Great Filter hypothesis, and signs of life discovered on Mars implies that this filter may be ahead of humanity rather than behind it
The most impactful moment of our history: explorers on Mars discovered the remains of an ancient spacefaring civilization. In the decades that followed, these mysterious artifacts revealed startling new technologies, enabling travel to the furthest stars. The basis for this incredible technology was a force that controlled the very fabric of space and time. They called it the greatest discovery in human history. The civilizations of the galaxy call it
I saw a conspiracy theory that said we used to live on Mars but we polluted it so much that, to survive, we had to send a rocket with two children to the next planet, called Earth. Then everyone died.
thats stupid in so many ways. nevermind the mountain of evidence that we evolved on this planet, two people cannot found a stable population. their children would be fine, but after that they're speed running inbreeding. it would only take a few generations for all kinds of genetic problems to start coming up and they would only get worse.
There is a novel "Microserfs" many years back and in it if I recall all the guys at MS drove Ford Taurus because at some point Gates drove one. So all the little serfs wanted to be like him.
Static crackles in the astronaut’s helmet as he makes his way onto the red soil. A message pops up on his display. “Hey, got a sec for a quick teams call?”
It would means we have already contaminate this environment and we won't be able to tell if any discovered life form came from mars or from contamination.
There are no Teams servers on Mars and the client will time out before radio signals can reach Earth. So any copies of Microsoft Teams on Mars are just a waste of storage space, and not very terrifying compared to "actual" malware that could be in the same storage space.
Not exactly. It time out for different reasons. On earth it times out trying to authorise thru ActiveDirectory, which will never succeed because your company uses AD and not Teams, but Teams is too stupid to realise that it should use another auth method, just because it sees AD on the system.
Here's a fun one. We find an archive. Stored in a form durable enough to last eternity, we find a vault, the last remnant of some long-forgotten Martian civilization.
They include the usual history, culture, historical artifacts, etc. But what shocks our explorers most of all? The biological archive. DNA sequences, freeze dried tissue samples, etc. Their language, once cracked, reveals the truth.
This isn't just a library or archive to remember the Martians. They knew they were on a slowly dying world. They never got rocket technology, though they did master advanced biology before the end. So they included everything needed to revive them, to actually bring them back from the dead.
Then we have to figure out what to do. This isn't the dodo bird or some other species we, humanity, are responsible for killing off. The Martians died of natural causes a billion years before our ancestors crawled out of the water. We have no ancestral moral debt to the Martians.
Sure, we could bring them back. But think through the implications of that. Mars is their world, the very planet we were planning to colonize. Will they want it back, maybe ask to live on Earth in the millennia it takes to teraform it? And even then, we'll now have a literal alien civilian right on our doorstep. Do we really want to open that Pandora's Box?
I was introduced to the concept of the moral dilemma of bringing back extinct aliens from Isaac Arthur, and it's a scenario I truly love.
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qevlarr@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 41d
I have two Outlooks and neither of them are working
Sabata11792@ani.social · 17 pts · 41d
Ticket closed. Feature not a bug.
rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social · 8 pts · 41d
I understood that reference
altphoto@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 40d
One day kids won't understand the reference and will probably come up with stuff like "That's funny, didn't I donate my left testicle as required by Microsoft government for population maintenance purposes? Why are they asking me to donate my remaining testicle?
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 41d
I have to use Teams for work and it baffles me how unbelievably bad the interface is. Everything that should be easy and quick to do is made difficult and time consuming. Every time you try to do something simple you'd expect to be able to, it is blocked or limited in such a way that you can't do it and you have to find a workaround. It fights you in every way it can whenever you're trying to accomplish something. You also have to sign in with two factor authentication multiple times every day. I don't understand how this so-called "productivity" suite is even tolerated by private companies. It cripples productivity.
hydrashok@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 41d
While I agree the UI needs some work, getting prompted for MFA multiple times a day for just using Teams chat and meetings is not normal.
Prox@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 41d
It's not? Everyone at my company has the same experience.
lividweasel@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 41d
Your IT has set up Conditional Access policies with a Sign-in Frequency set too low (it should really be labeled as a period, because it defines the time period that will occur before reauthentication is required). For regular users like all of you, forcing reauthentication that many times each day is excessive and just cruel on the users. They maybe thought it would make them super secure, but it only trains the users that MFA is an annoyance rather than an important security feature.
It’s a setting that can easily be changed, so make some noise and see if you can get some feedback passed through your org structure to IT.
ClownStatue@piefed.social · 2 pts · 41d
I don't think I've ever had to sign into Teams (PR Outlook, for that matter) in my desktop. Mobile, I have to after changing my password. I assumed all the MS apps signed me in with my domain login on my laptop. On weird issue I have is things like SharePoint and Dynamics 365 asking me to sign in again after its already brought up the site, and clicking the button to do it just brings a blank pop-up that immediately disappears and I'm logged "for real" I guess.
Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 41d
Yeah that’s usually the case, but some orgs don’t domain join devices cause they are bad.
Also the dynamics blank popup thing is your windows auth working
ivan@piefed.social · 13 pts · 41d
I've worked at different places that used Teams, and that thing with having to re- login regularly is certainly fault of whoever administers Teams within your organization.
hydrashok@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 41d
Agreed. Sounds like a config problem if the whole org is seeing it.
hydrashok@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 41d
Yep. I sign in once when the app is opened (which happens automatically as I’m logged into the computer as my Entra ID) and then am never prompted again until I close and reopen Teams.
Something is misconfigured in the environment, or there is a security policy that is set way too high, or one is scoped incorrectly. It is definitely not the normal or expected user experience.
Teams has a lot of faults, but that one is on your org’s admins and security team. Hopefully for you it’s a mistake and not done intentionally.
Ariselas@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 41d
what is supposed to be and what is are often two different things.
psud@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 41d
You can get multiple sign in requests if you change devices regularly. It's common to require authentication any time you change device
hydrashok@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 41d
Not in my experience. I sign into lots of different systems every day and run Teams on all of them, and I never see any MFA prompts so long as I’m on a managed asset. Every system logs in to Teams automatically just by opening the Teams app.
Now, if you’re talking about a pinned app or SharePoint link or something once you’re in the app, maybe. But default chat and meetings should be the same experience, in terms of authentication workflow for the user, as launching and using Outlook.
cabillaud@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 41d
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 41d
Just started at a place that uses teams. The window always says I have two unread messages. I don't.
bstix@feddit.dk · 17 pts · 41d
Probably missed calls. It'll keep showing a notification bubble in both activity and calls until you bother clicking the missed call as if that makes any difference or sense to anyone or anything but the notification counter.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 41d
Or theyre reactions to a message
bstix@feddit.dk · 10 pts · 41d
Yeah, those don't work well with Outlook. I get an e-mail from Microsoft telling me to login to the web version only to see that someone put a 👍 on my e-mail. It completely defies the purpose.
Microsoft really knows how to keep office workers occupied doing nothing at all.
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 41d
Or calendar invites
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 41d
If you go to notifications and filter by unread you will probably be able to find what it is
HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub · 25 pts · 41d
Imagine finding a log with something like "we couldn't stop shareholders, our planet is doomed. We will start with a new colony on the planet closer to sun, perhaps this time we will not destroy our home"
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d
I had the same thought. Evidence of a long extinct and clearly human civilization.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net · 19 pts · 41d
Artemis II astronauts going around the Moon: "I have two Outlooks, neither of which works"
Astronauts during the first Mars mission: "I previously had two Teams versions, neither of which worked, and now there's apparently a third one, and it doesn't work either"
Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 41d
"Houston, what is 'New Teams Classic' and why is it asking me to log in three times in a row?"
ivan@piefed.social · 18 pts · 41d
I can sometimes hear Teams notification sound from neighbour's apartment, triggers me to check my phone almost every time.
EpicMuch@sh.itjust.works · 31 pts · 41d
Enabling sound notifs for teams is pathological self hating behavior
meekah@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 41d
They added the teams call sound as a horn to forza horizon 6, I made a few people tab out of the game with it lol
whats_a_lemmy@midwest.social · 2 pts · 41d
Amazing
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 41d
You need to update teams to join this meeting that starts in 1 minute.
whats_a_lemmy@midwest.social · 2 pts · 41d
Oh no, I can't join the meeting, Teams is broken again
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 41d
Elon Musks bones.
No, wait, you said terrifying, not terrific. never mind.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 8 pts · 41d
Don't give him what he says his life goal is (die on Mars). It would be way more terrific if he died in a supercar crash (like the one he had in 2000 with Peter Thiel as passenger in a $1M McLaren F1, the fastest production car back then).
BrickEater@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 41d
God, if only we.could have been so lucky. Imagine how the last 26 years would've been with them dead.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 2 pts · 41d
At least he temporarily lost some money and pride by wrecking his stupid uninsured penis compensator.
BrickEater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d
Obviously it hurt him so much he's become the worlds largest compensator. Maybe that's why all his kids are IVF
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 41d
I now know to which moment in time i go back to adjust the outcome, if the opportunity arises.
Sabata11792@ani.social · 2 pts · 41d
What if whatever killed him and is wearing his skin is just as evil and stupid, but is not a junky.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 41d
Agent641@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 41d
"No Trespassing" signs, written in Goa'uld.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 41d
Honestly, anything written that we could understand without deciphering would raise a couple of terrifying questions:
Who / What wrote this?
Do they know our language or do we know theirs?
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 41d
KREE
wieson@feddit.org · 1 pts · 41d
Woodland, swamp or plains?
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 41d
"Didn't you see my post in the channel?"
"Sweety, I don't know wtf is going on in this cluster fuck. Be thankful I even replied"
sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 41d
Or maybe you believe in the Great Filter hypothesis, and signs of life discovered on Mars implies that this filter may be ahead of humanity rather than behind it
Rudee@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 41d
The most impactful moment of our history: explorers on Mars discovered the remains of an ancient spacefaring civilization. In the decades that followed, these mysterious artifacts revealed startling new technologies, enabling travel to the furthest stars. The basis for this incredible technology was a force that controlled the very fabric of space and time. They called it the greatest discovery in human history. The civilizations of the galaxy call it
myrrh@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 41d
thehatfox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d
If there was intelligent life on Mars in past there would presumably be lasting signs that we could discover.
Who knows what signs we might find in ice cores from the Martian South Pole.
pressanykeynow@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 41d
Finding signs of technological development on Venus on the other hand would be interesting...
sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 41d
Even if this were the case though, life on Mars (or anywhere outside of Earth) would be a really cool discovery!
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 41d
I saw a conspiracy theory that said we used to live on Mars but we polluted it so much that, to survive, we had to send a rocket with two children to the next planet, called Earth. Then everyone died.
The children's names were Adam and Eve.
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 41d
thats stupid in so many ways. nevermind the mountain of evidence that we evolved on this planet, two people cannot found a stable population. their children would be fine, but after that they're speed running inbreeding. it would only take a few generations for all kinds of genetic problems to start coming up and they would only get worse.
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 41d
That negates the entire biblical story too.
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 41d
Indeed it does. But it's not like people actually believe creation myths anyway >.>
Avicenna@programming.dev · 8 pts · 41d
wtf even downvotes do you work in microsoft or what? or do we have "anything big tech is good" bots here
placebo@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 41d
fraksken@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 41d
To be honest, we're talking microsoft teams here.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 41d
6 is too many.
sudoer777@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 41d
If someone keeps pressing the button then it will fluctuate between 6 and 7 downvotes
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 41d
I'd believe there are six people in management here who see Teams as a "good solution"
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 41d
There is a novel "Microserfs" many years back and in it if I recall all the guys at MS drove Ford Taurus because at some point Gates drove one. So all the little serfs wanted to be like him.
saltnotsugar@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 41d
Static crackles in the astronaut’s helmet as he makes his way onto the red soil. A message pops up on his display. “Hey, got a sec for a quick teams call?”
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 41d
That Tesla Melon Husk dumped in the space.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 41d
With Elons body in the space suit. The Elon that remained on earth is something... Else.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 41d
What left for us is a Felon.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 41d
Elon Musk.
borokov@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d
Bugs or organisme from earth.
It would means we have already contaminate this environment and we won't be able to tell if any discovered life form came from mars or from contamination.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 41d
I thought we knew we already did that with the rover.
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 41d
They took a lot of care to sanitise all of the landers and rovers
a14o@feddit.org · 3 pts · 41d
Single women in your area
halfeatenpotato@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 40d
Exact replicas of everyone on Earth. But we all have something... off about us.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 41d
Mars is doing the me gusta meme face.
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d
Presumably it’s mostly topological horror.
Getting trapped in caves, falling off cliffs, collapsing ground, tentacle pits
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 2 pts · 41d
There are no Teams servers on Mars and the client will time out before radio signals can reach Earth. So any copies of Microsoft Teams on Mars are just a waste of storage space, and not very terrifying compared to "actual" malware that could be in the same storage space.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 41d
So exactly how it works on Earth?
not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 41d
Not exactly. It time out for different reasons. On earth it times out trying to authorise thru ActiveDirectory, which will never succeed because your company uses AD and not Teams, but Teams is too stupid to realise that it should use another auth method, just because it sees AD on the system.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 41d
At least you have an undeniable excuse why you can't take calls and take 15-30 minutes to respond to texts.
onnekas@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 41d
twist: Microsoft already built data centers and servers on Mars.
Mucki@feddit.org · 1 pts · 41d
Every time I hear someone ask to help out with Teams, it sounds to me like "Can you help me shove my fist further up my ass" ... Yes eeeh sure . . .
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 41d
Agile
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 41d
the mars movie tropes, always find some secret alien life or advanced structure on the planet.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 41d
Here's a fun one. We find an archive. Stored in a form durable enough to last eternity, we find a vault, the last remnant of some long-forgotten Martian civilization.
They include the usual history, culture, historical artifacts, etc. But what shocks our explorers most of all? The biological archive. DNA sequences, freeze dried tissue samples, etc. Their language, once cracked, reveals the truth.
This isn't just a library or archive to remember the Martians. They knew they were on a slowly dying world. They never got rocket technology, though they did master advanced biology before the end. So they included everything needed to revive them, to actually bring them back from the dead.
Then we have to figure out what to do. This isn't the dodo bird or some other species we, humanity, are responsible for killing off. The Martians died of natural causes a billion years before our ancestors crawled out of the water. We have no ancestral moral debt to the Martians.
Sure, we could bring them back. But think through the implications of that. Mars is their world, the very planet we were planning to colonize. Will they want it back, maybe ask to live on Earth in the millennia it takes to teraform it? And even then, we'll now have a literal alien civilian right on our doorstep. Do we really want to open that Pandora's Box?
I was introduced to the concept of the moral dilemma of bringing back extinct aliens from Isaac Arthur, and it's a scenario I truly love.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 41d
Given how humans treat humans probably better to keep them extinct.
Like if they were all hot female big titty race lots of humans would be receptive but species supremacy groups will rise.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 41d
Excuses.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 40d
It turns out all the Rust is just dyno clippies that rusted out millions of years ago when the planet was populated by clipies.
omodasonya3@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 41d
Lol