Yeah I feel like it’s genuinely problematic if you do that kinda stuff. My stomach feels like I ate two knives if I haven’t eaten in even six hours.
Not all of us are neurotypical. I'll literally go all day just sitting around at home on a day off and realize it's 6pm and I haven't eaten all day. I literally just forgot to eat.
Hey I’m not neurotypical either. I have ADHD and a bunch of other stuff. But I feel like it’s probably not physically healthy to consistently do that kind of thing. Especially if it’s consistent in its inconsistency.
Meal prep fiber/protein rich food is my best attempt at this. I usually do brown rice with toppings and egg every single day; twice per day. Very hard to get bored because you can vary the toppings - eggplant, beans, curry, soy protein, stir fried stuff - and brown rice is fiber which is hard to be bored of smaller carb/glucose-spike footprint.
Just don't freeze it, the crystals will mush the texture and you'll get bored of the slop feel very quickly.
Honestly, I took a look at fiber a few years ago and realized that it was basically absent from my diet.
I started treating it like a game.
Just generally, I feel so much better, my poos aren't markers, my stomach is not ever "doing something" and just generally I don't have to think about it. Plus I dropped a bunch of weight kinda by accident.
I'm kinda starting to think that if you basically aim for fiber the rest works out. You end up eating larger quantities of less dense calories.
Though, I may have inadvertently discovered that dairy makes my tummy gross too
That is how i know i need food, i am going for the coffe, it has gotten cold or the cup is empty, so I check the time "ah it is lunch time", works every time.
I got diagnosed at 52, i only discovered that forgetting to eat and being shaky wasn't normal when i turned up that way to a therapy session and my therapist pointed out that, that wasn't a normal thing.
I'll let you know when my prescription comes in this week.
But a lot of validation and vindication emotionally when family all my years said "no you're not ADHD, no one in our family is X or Y". Meanwhile my father and 3 uncles are all engineers or architects and are un-diagnosed autistic as fuck (My married partner is autistic and has met them all and every time we leave we get in the car and they say "Holy fuck he's so fucking autistic")
I see you haven't experienced "doing something with tunnel vision for 16 hours before realising that you're shaking because you forgot to eat and that your last meal was dinner yesterday around 26 hours ago". I don't think you need the beetus to experience that.
One time I "forgot" to get out of bed, because I was just "one more game" from the moment i woke up. Finally caved to go to the toilet and get some breakfast. 1am.
It might surprise you (pleasantly or horrifically lol) to learn that there's a large group of people specifically doing one meal a day (referred to as OMAD) as a form of hardcore intermediate fasting.
That being said, they make sure they get the proper amount of calories/macros in for this (they're not just eating a slice of bread and butter), so I understand that you're not referring to this style of eating.
It's yet another type of intermittent fasting. I bet it's good for some people, but honestly: if you have access to affordable nutritionists: ask one and see if it would be good for your body type.
Exactly. Which is why suggesting that someone shaking from not eating = diabetes is a bullshit opinion.
Because just because you shake doesn't mean diabetes. I'm diagnosed ADHD and I get shakes from malnutrition. I'm 100% non-diabetic.
When I'm at work and haven't eaten I tend to shake a lot. I basically vibrate. I just had dinner and my just held my hand out in front of me and it's as still as I've ever seen it.
Almost like mental issues matter just as much as physical issues, but people like you love to discredit it because you don't think mental illness is a real thing.
But getting the shakes from skipping a meal or two is not normal. It means your body is not able to respond appropriately to your system needs. Nothing to do with neurodivergent. It's a medical situation.
Tests for diabetes are easy and cheap. Any general doctor can do it.
People can become diabetic from autoimmune disorders. It's not based on being healthy. Anyone can get it.
Untreated diabetes can result in some very serious situations including coma and death. But even less immediate problems from diabetes can long term damage to eyes, increased risk of infection, especially in the legs and feet resulting in gangrene, and a host of other problems.
When people know their health status they can manage their condition and reduce these risks.
Ignoring serious health issues because "I'm neurodivergent" is unwise.
Adhd doesn't make you shake from skipping meals either.
It's caused from the wrong balance of insulin and sugar glucose in your system. And potentially early signs of ketoacidosis or hypoglycemia.
It's very serious.
Just check with a doctor. As I said it's a cheap and easy test. It's not normal to get the shakes from even going without food for days.
That's not how our bodies are supposed to work. Shakes are a very serious indicator something is wrong.
There are other causes that aren't diabetes but it's one of the most common and easy to test for.
I'm diagnosed depression, GAD, ADHD, and severe Anxiety. I don't have diabetes and have tested negative for my entire life. I have zero family history with diabetes, wasn't diabetic in the Army, or any of the recent blood work I've needed done less than two years ago.
Sometimes people are just different from you, and I genuinely think you're a piece of shit spreading misinformation as openly as you are for people who may not have the diagnostic information as I have and might panic thinking they're diabetic when they're just severely anxious or ADHD.
Your comment is remarkably harmful, and I say with all due respect, fuck you for spreading such fear into people who may not have the same information about themselves as I have. You're the same kind of asshole who goes onto a thread and says "It might be cancer" for someone who wonders about their abdominal pain.
Neurodivergent has literally nothing to do with your pancreas.
Type 1 diabetes is not genetic. It's caused by a few things but basically the immune systrm has damaged the pancreas from an auto immune reaction at some point.
Type 2 diabetes is usually caused from being overweight or a combination of genetics and being overweight.
Educating people allows them to manage their health.
Ignoring health problems because "I'm different so it's normal for me" is unwise.
That's why I started Wellbutrin actually. Insurance doesn't cover any GLP-1 unless I have diabetes. At the time I was almost 320 pounds. Wellbutrin has helped bring me down to a steady 265 for the last year.
The thing a lot of people miss with intermittent fasting (imo) is making sure the meals they do eat are giving them the right amount of nutrients/proteins/etc that their body needs.
Yeah u save a lot of money as well. I just eat an apple, which is like 50 cents. Most of my colleagues go out for lunch everyday, paying around 10 Euros or so every time. That's 200 bucks a month only for lunch. Absolutely ridiculous.
I used to not anything all day, then take an edible and eat all of my calories at once. Depending on stress, sometimes I regress to only being able to eat a few safe foods (when it’s really bad - only the pizza and nacho lunchables), and weed usually helps there.
Since I had stomach surgery recently and have to eat small things frequently, I bought a shit ton of bulk snacks and I always keep some with me. I also gave myself permission to buy bottled water. It’s helped a lot to have little things on hand, so I don’t have to interrupt whatever I’m doing to eat. I just grab some goldfish crackers and a water bottle out of my backpack and then I’m good to go.
If you don't get the proper amount of calories for your body (especially if you're still growing) you'll be in a lot of trouble.
Even as a fully grown adult, not eating enough and physically exerting yourself could mess with your bone density among other things. Happens to thru hikers on the Appalachian trail when they don't eat enough.
It's a Summer thing, actually. Heavy tummy all the time, doesn't ever feel light. I did have a "large" meal yesterday and almost felt like I was going to be bloated.
But then again, Summer-only. I was eating fine at the dorm, 4 meals a day, 3 meals instead if I was overeating for each meal, or 2 if I accidentally skipped the other two...
...Or maybe it's the switch in environments. I dunno!
I'm not underweight, my digestive system is just lightweight, minimalistic and debloated with as little propriatery nutrients as possible (except for those needed to function). It's not intuitive to the average alive person, but it's my system and all that matters is that I know how to use it!
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BeUnique@lemmy.zip · 60 pts · 37d
Me: "Why am I so angry about nothing?"
Skylordd78@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 36d
Does forgetting to drink water and eat food make you more angry and emotional over things? Cause random outbursts and random mood swings?
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 36d
Very much so, yes.
HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub · 5 pts · 35d
Yes. There is even a very short psychology guide:
Generally emotions are partially chemical and if your body doesn't get basic needs satisfied, it will cause you to feel negative emotions.
BeUnique@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 36d
It absolutely does for me! People call it being "hangry".
Perfect example: https://youtube.com/shorts/Ql1MXbX8kfo
I bet she was happy and completely normal after getting her chicken.
Edymos@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
Oh my god! How did I never realize that before?
sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 37d
I cannot relate less to a meme. 😂
joelfromaus@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 36d
Me, staring at the unopened biscuits in my desk drawer:
(Context: I’ve had 2 moderate meals today already and have something planned for dinner.)
CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 35d
Yeah I feel like it’s genuinely problematic if you do that kinda stuff. My stomach feels like I ate two knives if I haven’t eaten in even six hours.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 35d
Not all of us are neurotypical. I'll literally go all day just sitting around at home on a day off and realize it's 6pm and I haven't eaten all day. I literally just forgot to eat.
CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 35d
Hey I’m not neurotypical either. I have ADHD and a bunch of other stuff. But I feel like it’s probably not physically healthy to consistently do that kind of thing. Especially if it’s consistent in its inconsistency.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
Of course it isn't healthy.
The point I'm making is I and many people do it unintentionally.
pumpupthejam@piefed.social · 40 pts · 37d
If I could binge eat once a week and then not have to bother to eat for the rest of that week, I'd be so happy.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · 42 pts · 37d
bearmaxxing
Agent641@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 36d
Hungry? Try eating 197 pounds of raw salmon. You certainly won't regret eating 197 pounds of raw salmon.
drmoose@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 36d
Meal prep fiber/protein rich food is my best attempt at this. I usually do brown rice with toppings and egg every single day; twice per day. Very hard to get bored because you can vary the toppings - eggplant, beans, curry, soy protein, stir fried stuff - and brown rice is fiber which is hard to be bored of smaller carb/glucose-spike footprint.
Just don't freeze it, the crystals will mush the texture and you'll get bored of the slop feel very quickly.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
Honestly, I took a look at fiber a few years ago and realized that it was basically absent from my diet.
I started treating it like a game.
Just generally, I feel so much better, my poos aren't markers, my stomach is not ever "doing something" and just generally I don't have to think about it. Plus I dropped a bunch of weight kinda by accident.
I'm kinda starting to think that if you basically aim for fiber the rest works out. You end up eating larger quantities of less dense calories.
Though, I may have inadvertently discovered that dairy makes my tummy gross too
drmoose@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
fiber is under rated for real
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 26 pts · 37d
I eat when I am on the verge of throwing up due to low blood sugar.
Orioniae@piefed.social · -3 pts · 36d
Y’all really cannot schedule a 3 meal a day plan? What do you mean throwing up is your alarm to go eat?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 36d
Hyperfocus. But not on food.
9point6@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 37d
Or
Choose your adventure!
Kuma@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 37d
That is how i know i need food, i am going for the coffe, it has gotten cold or the cup is empty, so I check the time "ah it is lunch time", works every time.
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 35d
yall should get checked for neurodivergence if its relatable, assumed this was adhd-memes
vinyl@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
isn't it related to low blood sugar if your body becomes weak and shaky?
CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 35d
You get low blood sugar from not eating. You don’t get the normal hunger cues before that point if you have something happening in your brain
NormalHumanBreathing@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
I got diagnosed at 52, i only discovered that forgetting to eat and being shaky wasn't normal when i turned up that way to a therapy session and my therapist pointed out that, that wasn't a normal thing.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 35d
Lord knows I had it. I knew I had it. My married partner of 8 years knew I had it.
At 39 I finally got diagnosed with ADHD last week.
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
What has changed for you now having it attested?
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
I'll let you know when my prescription comes in this week.
But a lot of validation and vindication emotionally when family all my years said "no you're not ADHD, no one in our family is X or Y". Meanwhile my father and 3 uncles are all engineers or architects and are un-diagnosed autistic as fuck (My married partner is autistic and has met them all and every time we leave we get in the car and they say "Holy fuck he's so fucking autistic")
daannii@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 37d
You might have type 1 diabetes.
Skipping a meal shouldn't give you shakes.
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 36d
I see you haven't experienced "doing something with tunnel vision for 16 hours before realising that you're shaking because you forgot to eat and that your last meal was dinner yesterday around 26 hours ago". I don't think you need the beetus to experience that.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 36d
One time I "forgot" to get out of bed, because I was just "one more game" from the moment i woke up. Finally caved to go to the toilet and get some breakfast. 1am.
Padit@feddit.org · 3 pts · 36d
It is truly curious how different all our lives are.
dickalan@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 35d
I have to ask what bad ass game have this effect on you
LouNeko@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 36d
It does if you only have one (1) meal a day.
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 36d
It might surprise you (pleasantly or horrifically lol) to learn that there's a large group of people specifically doing one meal a day (referred to as OMAD) as a form of hardcore intermediate fasting.
That being said, they make sure they get the proper amount of calories/macros in for this (they're not just eating a slice of bread and butter), so I understand that you're not referring to this style of eating.
Still wanted to bring it up though. Wild stuff.
ddplf@szmer.info · 3 pts · 36d
Sounds like the easiest way to count your calories and macros. Plus saves you time during the day. Is it good for you though?
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 35d
It's yet another type of intermittent fasting. I bet it's good for some people, but honestly: if you have access to affordable nutritionists: ask one and see if it would be good for your body type.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 36d
One meal?
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
Or you're just neurodivergent.
daannii@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
That's not how that works.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
Exactly. Which is why suggesting that someone shaking from not eating = diabetes is a bullshit opinion.
Because just because you shake doesn't mean diabetes. I'm diagnosed ADHD and I get shakes from malnutrition. I'm 100% non-diabetic.
When I'm at work and haven't eaten I tend to shake a lot. I basically vibrate. I just had dinner and my just held my hand out in front of me and it's as still as I've ever seen it.
Almost like mental issues matter just as much as physical issues, but people like you love to discredit it because you don't think mental illness is a real thing.
daannii@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 34d
Neurodivergent is cognitive and psychological.
If you shake from anxiety that's one thing.
But getting the shakes from skipping a meal or two is not normal. It means your body is not able to respond appropriately to your system needs. Nothing to do with neurodivergent. It's a medical situation.
Tests for diabetes are easy and cheap. Any general doctor can do it.
People can become diabetic from autoimmune disorders. It's not based on being healthy. Anyone can get it.
Untreated diabetes can result in some very serious situations including coma and death. But even less immediate problems from diabetes can long term damage to eyes, increased risk of infection, especially in the legs and feet resulting in gangrene, and a host of other problems.
When people know their health status they can manage their condition and reduce these risks. Ignoring serious health issues because "I'm neurodivergent" is unwise.
Adhd doesn't make you shake from skipping meals either.
It's caused from the wrong balance of insulin and sugar glucose in your system. And potentially early signs of ketoacidosis or hypoglycemia.
It's very serious.
Just check with a doctor. As I said it's a cheap and easy test. It's not normal to get the shakes from even going without food for days.
That's not how our bodies are supposed to work. Shakes are a very serious indicator something is wrong.
There are other causes that aren't diabetes but it's one of the most common and easy to test for.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
That's a shit ton of words that are bullshit.
I'm diagnosed depression, GAD, ADHD, and severe Anxiety. I don't have diabetes and have tested negative for my entire life. I have zero family history with diabetes, wasn't diabetic in the Army, or any of the recent blood work I've needed done less than two years ago.
Sometimes people are just different from you, and I genuinely think you're a piece of shit spreading misinformation as openly as you are for people who may not have the diagnostic information as I have and might panic thinking they're diabetic when they're just severely anxious or ADHD.
Your comment is remarkably harmful, and I say with all due respect, fuck you for spreading such fear into people who may not have the same information about themselves as I have. You're the same kind of asshole who goes onto a thread and says "It might be cancer" for someone who wonders about their abdominal pain.
daannii@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 34d
Neurodivergent has literally nothing to do with your pancreas.
Type 1 diabetes is not genetic. It's caused by a few things but basically the immune systrm has damaged the pancreas from an auto immune reaction at some point.
Type 2 diabetes is usually caused from being overweight or a combination of genetics and being overweight.
Educating people allows them to manage their health.
Ignoring health problems because "I'm different so it's normal for me" is unwise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 37d
Just ADHD things
choom_of_doom@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 37d
Too real… 🤣
Binette@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 37d
Strangely enough, antidepressants help for being able to actually feel hungry.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 7 pts · 37d
i have most appetite when i'm in a good mood, so that checks out
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 37d
Makes sense 10% to 20% of people on them report weight gain
Skylordd78@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 36d
I need off wellbutrin, as good as it is for my mental health I keep forgetting to eat while using it
MrQuallzin@pie.eyeofthestorm.place · 1 pts · 36d
That's why I started Wellbutrin actually. Insurance doesn't cover any GLP-1 unless I have diabetes. At the time I was almost 320 pounds. Wellbutrin has helped bring me down to a steady 265 for the last year.
istdaslol@feddit.org · 8 pts · 37d
In contrast to me „oh I got a minute, time to eat 5 cans on beans“
nialv7@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 37d
Same and I also go to sleep when I feel I am going to die.
HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 37d
I time it every four hours. If I don't I feel lightheaded.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 8 pts · 37d
why does lightheartedness feel so good but lightheadedness so bad
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
Who the hell has time to eat food every four hours on the hour?
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 35d
How about sitting back utterly satisfied with your complete meal and then noticing that others look like they've started eating?
Oops
JelleWho@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 37d
I always seems to miss lunch. It's actually just handy st this point
orenj@leminal.space · 13 pts · 37d
I've maladapted into calling my eventual meal after forgetting to eat multiple meals in a row 'intermittent fasting'
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 37d
Yeah when IF was at its peak, I read up on it and was like...I already do this, but not on purpose.
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 36d
The thing a lot of people miss with intermittent fasting (imo) is making sure the meals they do eat are giving them the right amount of nutrients/proteins/etc that their body needs.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 3 pts · 37d
it's actually very healthy.
bridgeburner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 36d
Yeah u save a lot of money as well. I just eat an apple, which is like 50 cents. Most of my colleagues go out for lunch everyday, paying around 10 Euros or so every time. That's 200 bucks a month only for lunch. Absolutely ridiculous.
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 35d
I used to not anything all day, then take an edible and eat all of my calories at once. Depending on stress, sometimes I regress to only being able to eat a few safe foods (when it’s really bad - only the pizza and nacho lunchables), and weed usually helps there.
Since I had stomach surgery recently and have to eat small things frequently, I bought a shit ton of bulk snacks and I always keep some with me. I also gave myself permission to buy bottled water. It’s helped a lot to have little things on hand, so I don’t have to interrupt whatever I’m doing to eat. I just grab some goldfish crackers and a water bottle out of my backpack and then I’m good to go.
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 37d
another meme in the mirror
Brahvim@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 37d
I WANT to live this way! But I'm at my parents' house now, no way they're letting me stay this way...
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 36d
If you don't get the proper amount of calories for your body (especially if you're still growing) you'll be in a lot of trouble.
Even as a fully grown adult, not eating enough and physically exerting yourself could mess with your bone density among other things. Happens to thru hikers on the Appalachian trail when they don't eat enough.
Brahvim@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 36d
It's a Summer thing, actually. Heavy tummy all the time, doesn't ever feel light. I did have a "large" meal yesterday and almost felt like I was going to be bloated.
But then again, Summer-only. I was eating fine at the dorm, 4 meals a day, 3 meals instead if I was overeating for each meal, or 2 if I accidentally skipped the other two...
...Or maybe it's the switch in environments. I dunno!
rumba@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 35d
I used to get hangry AF. Couldn't miss a meal, i'd just be absolutely miserable.
One day, I went let's try keto.
After going into and out of keto a few times, I no longer get ravenous. It's now years later and I'm just mmm i could stand to eat now.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
I just drink water when I am hungry. Stay hydrated.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
Adhd will do that to you.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 36d
I never understood this, how the hell are you not medically underweight?
I guess some people’s bodies are still operating as a European peasant.
Jako302@feddit.org · 7 pts · 36d
I may not eat often, but if I do, I eat a lot.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 3 pts · 36d
fun fact: your body reminds you when to eat.
MrChewy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
I'm not underweight, my digestive system is just lightweight, minimalistic and debloated with as little propriatery nutrients as possible (except for those needed to function). It's not intuitive to the average alive person, but it's my system and all that matters is that I know how to use it!