It surely is an easy justification. It was not in their hands, how could grok fail them, it was a slight miscalculation that was already fixed, blahblahblah
At that point you’re just doing the work of foreign adversaries, by killing citizens yourself.
That's a common reason the big ones in history fall. In the end it's by the rich, for the rich, and f the citizens. A population strongly divided doesn't unite in time against an external enemy and the enemy wins. So far they're just following history's playbook.
One day an AI might be, it won't be an LLM though.
I’m no expert, but I feel like that’s akin to saying a human may be intelligent, but it won’t be Broca’s area of the brain.
I would think a true AGI would involve a lot of different neural networks doing different things. And an LLM could end up being a useful component of allowing it to communicate. Though who knows how the model would need to change if its language prompts are inputs from other neural nets.
And I have to imagine at this point major AI models aren’t just LLMs, that’s just the part we interface with.
Again, I’m very far from an expert. What I do know is that the current MASSIVE push with the technology* we have now is causing more harm than it’s worth.
Brocas area on its own isn't intelligent and strapping a bunch of Brocas areas together won't get you there either.
Most of the frontier models as far as I'm aware are basically a bunch of differently trained LLMs strapped together and even then there have only been incremental improvements to their performance, no new functionality has really emerged from doing that.
LLM investment is IMO a dead end hype train and will require breakthroughs in other techniques of machine learning to put together something we would recognise as truly intelligent. I'll concede the possibility that LLM like functionality may be a portion of that but equally it may not be.
it's GIGO though. the ONLY way an LLM can improve is if it can consume "healthy food" and currently, and for awhile now, has been gorging on literal human and other LLMs waste. and humans have been willingly providing it a plate of literal shit to feast on.
They need honest and reliable data, they're not getting it and you can be as optimistic as you want but they'll never get it. Unless someone is magically able to change the opinions of 100% of the populace we will continue to feed it shit and watch it poison itself.
People also overestimate AI. Mostly those who do not understand it or are generally technically challenged. No offence meant. As there currently is no "I" in the "AI".
It sure has many great applications, but also a shitton that will be vastly destructive to many things we like and love.
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roofuskit@lemmy.world · 126 pts · 59d
So vital it helped the US lose a war.
rozodru@piefed.world · 55 pts · 59d
even in times of war, LLMs will hallucinate. "you're right, that was the wrong target (one line) here's what you did wrong (with detail)"
Siegfried@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 59d
A broken clock and bla bla
Photonic@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 59d
A broken… Grok?
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 75 pts · 59d
Let that euphemism sink in for a second.
errer@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 59d
And only 2,000 children were slaughtered! Thanks (cough cough cough) Grok!
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 59d
NAH-AH! It were "2000 distinct targets". But hey, the use of euphemism at least show they KNOW. That has to count for something, hm?
BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca · 19 pts · 59d
I wonder if Grok is also the justification they'll start using for claiming that random fishing boats in the Pacific are actually drug runners
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 59d
It surely is an easy justification. It was not in their hands, how could grok fail them, it was a slight miscalculation that was already fixed, blahblahblah
sprigatito@lemmy.zip · 53 pts · 59d
What's even the point of exempting something like a military base, like the article says.
Or exempting Grok from pollution regulations.
Like that's just backwards. Let's increase national security, by exposing residents to harmful toxins.
At that point you're just doing the work of foreign adversaries, by killing citizens yourself.
Flower@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 59d
That's a common reason the big ones in history fall. In the end it's by the rich, for the rich, and f the citizens. A population strongly divided doesn't unite in time against an external enemy and the enemy wins. So far they're just following history's playbook.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 59d
I would like off Commodus's wild ride. Thanks in advance.
Solrac@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 58d
Quintessential USA move right there, almost fundamental.
Bumpi@piefed.social · 24 pts · 59d
Grok = trained on redneck X tweets = provides redneck answers.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 59d
DOJ: "We'll say it for 100 million dollars."
BozzyBuzzard@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 58d
Isn't that the CSAM chatbot? I fucking hate it here.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 58d
This is exactly why we don’t have government paying for health care. They have no incentive to be responsible for the health problems they cause.
Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 59d
Mondez@lemdro.id · 24 pts · 59d
One day an AI might be, it won't be an LLM though.
TheRealKuni@piefed.social · 9 pts · 59d
I’m no expert, but I feel like that’s akin to saying a human may be intelligent, but it won’t be Broca’s area of the brain.
I would think a true AGI would involve a lot of different neural networks doing different things. And an LLM could end up being a useful component of allowing it to communicate. Though who knows how the model would need to change if its language prompts are inputs from other neural nets.
And I have to imagine at this point major AI models aren’t just LLMs, that’s just the part we interface with.
Again, I’m very far from an expert. What I do know is that the current MASSIVE push with the technology* we have now is causing more harm than it’s worth.
*edit: typo
Mondez@lemdro.id · 15 pts · 59d
Brocas area on its own isn't intelligent and strapping a bunch of Brocas areas together won't get you there either.
Most of the frontier models as far as I'm aware are basically a bunch of differently trained LLMs strapped together and even then there have only been incremental improvements to their performance, no new functionality has really emerged from doing that.
LLM investment is IMO a dead end hype train and will require breakthroughs in other techniques of machine learning to put together something we would recognise as truly intelligent. I'll concede the possibility that LLM like functionality may be a portion of that but equally it may not be.
Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 59d
rozodru@piefed.world · 5 pts · 59d
well it's true. if you don't get an hallucination or a false positive solution on your first attempt with any LLM you should go play the lottery.
Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 59d
Mondez@lemdro.id · 6 pts · 59d
Better technology won't make LLM techniques break out of their limitations, we are already throwing massive compute at it for marginal returns.
rozodru@piefed.world · 5 pts · 59d
it's GIGO though. the ONLY way an LLM can improve is if it can consume "healthy food" and currently, and for awhile now, has been gorging on literal human and other LLMs waste. and humans have been willingly providing it a plate of literal shit to feast on.
They need honest and reliable data, they're not getting it and you can be as optimistic as you want but they'll never get it. Unless someone is magically able to change the opinions of 100% of the populace we will continue to feed it shit and watch it poison itself.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 59d
So same as humans then?
Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 59d
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 59d
It might be a million times faster, but not smarter.
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 59d
It's a million times smarter than a specific human, Musk's pedo buddy Donald Trump.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 59d
Yeah ok, there surely are exceptions :-)
Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 59d
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 59d
People also overestimate AI. Mostly those who do not understand it or are generally technically challenged. No offence meant. As there currently is no "I" in the "AI". It sure has many great applications, but also a shitton that will be vastly destructive to many things we like and love.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 59d
Depends how you define smart. Can it answer any kind of encycclopedic question within seconds? Yes!
Can it adapt and change to a dynamic environment? Not really!
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 59d
That’s not being smart? That’s having good memory recall.
Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 59d
lemmelemmy@feddit.org · 2 pts · 57d
When would this charade going to end?