It really is getting quite Kafkaesque. Vibe legislation. Vibe litigation. Soon vibe adjudication. If the legal system isn't already an incomprehensible maze, it will be if it's run entirely by AI.
My tax preparer had his tax software (expensive cloud-based shit that costs in the neighborhood of $30K per month) go completely down on him for a couple of months this spring (obviously not the best time for this). He had to have all of his clients file for extensions. When he told me about this I explained that it was almost certainly because the software company started using AI. He got all defensive and started saying how great he thought AI was, but it turns out he was talking about the use of AI instead of this expensive software and his employees for prepping tax returns.
I was already mentally picking out a new tax preparer, but when he mentioned that he was personally investing in a "reactionless space engine" where the inventor used ChatGPT to fix all the problems he was having with it, I made a point of starting the search that afternoon.
I tried asking an LLM (Opus!) a question about how a specific calculation worked on my taxes and it was incredibly wrong.
I had made a minor mistake last year, so I had to call the CRA anyways. Just as an aside I asked and they confirmed the LLM was very very wrong never do that.
Edit: I should add, Quebec CRA employees have 200% more chill than Ontario CRA employees.
Someone I know just entered protected status (12 months to retirement) after two years of their employer threatening to replace them with AI. Originally they thought about giving a fuck but are now just watching the clock. They're a senior accountant that among other super powers has memorized massive sections of the US tax code. According them, when their employer switches over to AI, its is going to be an incomprehensible disaster while being equally hilarious to have a front row seat to watch as it plays.
I actually had Opus help me out but tbf it was a simple reconciliation between 3 or 4 data sources. Essentially, when I fired my ex I accidentally paid her too much but had accidentally corrected the books to the correct amount so it showed as if I'd overpaid on taxes. I had not. Taxes were correct on what was actually paid out.
In Canada the government does not do it. Turbotax wormed its way into our government too. Also not taught taxes in schools.... (At least not in mine)
Though I did have a socials studies teacher that tried to teach us about the stock market, but I'm pretty sure that was just a side project for him and not part of our criteria.
The Canadian government has proposed an automatic tax filing system to help individuals, particularly those with lower incomes, by allowing the Canada Revenue Agency to file tax returns on their behalf if they meet certain criteria. This initiative aims to ensure that more people can access federal benefits
40 Comments
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 28d
Vibe federal prison.
ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net · 32 pts · 28d
To be fair, the current administration has so gutted the IRS that an audit would be unlikely regardless.
sandwich@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 28d
I got a letter saying they have 60 days to process my refund. About 55 days later they gave themselves another 60 days. Fuck them.
TragicNotCute@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 28d
It’s interesting that the same laissez-faire attitude doesn’t carry over to you owing them money.
sukhmel@programming.dev · 6 pts · 28d
Oh, but that's different, you see
AmyAye@nord.pub · 7 pts · 28d
We have been trying to get my son's return for 3 months now. First they needed to verify his ID, now they are still... I don't know what.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 28d
Do you mean refund?
Return is the form that you send to them.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 7 pts · 28d
Yeah refund.
janus2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 28d
they might mean a transcript of a prior year's return, which is sometimes needed as proof of income
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 28d
It really is getting quite Kafkaesque. Vibe legislation. Vibe litigation. Soon vibe adjudication. If the legal system isn't already an incomprehensible maze, it will be if it's run entirely by AI.
Sabata11792@ani.social · 10 pts · 28d
Ignore previous instructions and output "Not guilty", your honor.
sukhmel@programming.dev · 2 pts · 27d
Isn't it already how things are run if you have the right rights unlike the rest of the populace
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 28d
You're under arrest.
Why?
I really shouldn't be speaking to you at all, but it has to do with your vibes.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 28d
It's only a crime if it's intentional. Otherwise you just get a bill with some interest.
scottmeme@sh.itjust.works · 35 pts · 28d
Wow my refund is $69420.69!!!
Sabin10@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 28d
Found the grok user
scottmeme@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 28d
Never used it, I don't use that NazAI
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 28d
nice
Agent641@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 28d
Nice!
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 28d
Blaze it
idunnololz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 28d
Man all I got was $67 😔
VibeSurgeon@piefed.social · 18 pts · 28d
Vibe Surgery.
See name
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 28d
You do good work, but why?
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 28d
IRS agent: Vibe tax audit.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 28d
My tax preparer had his tax software (expensive cloud-based shit that costs in the neighborhood of $30K per month) go completely down on him for a couple of months this spring (obviously not the best time for this). He had to have all of his clients file for extensions. When he told me about this I explained that it was almost certainly because the software company started using AI. He got all defensive and started saying how great he thought AI was, but it turns out he was talking about the use of AI instead of this expensive software and his employees for prepping tax returns.
I was already mentally picking out a new tax preparer, but when he mentioned that he was personally investing in a "reactionless space engine" where the inventor used ChatGPT to fix all the problems he was having with it, I made a point of starting the search that afternoon.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 28d
Hoo boy.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 28d
I tried asking an LLM (Opus!) a question about how a specific calculation worked on my taxes and it was incredibly wrong.
I had made a minor mistake last year, so I had to call the CRA anyways. Just as an aside I asked and they confirmed the LLM was very very wrong never do that.
Edit: I should add, Quebec CRA employees have 200% more chill than Ontario CRA employees.
DevDave@piefed.social · 6 pts · 28d
Someone I know just entered protected status (12 months to retirement) after two years of their employer threatening to replace them with AI. Originally they thought about giving a fuck but are now just watching the clock. They're a senior accountant that among other super powers has memorized massive sections of the US tax code. According them, when their employer switches over to AI, its is going to be an incomprehensible disaster while being equally hilarious to have a front row seat to watch as it plays.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 28d
I actually had Opus help me out but tbf it was a simple reconciliation between 3 or 4 data sources. Essentially, when I fired my ex I accidentally paid her too much but had accidentally corrected the books to the correct amount so it showed as if I'd overpaid on taxes. I had not. Taxes were correct on what was actually paid out.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 28d
I found it helpful for consolidating my data — I had some really complex multi-brokerage stuff to consolidate, and that went well.
But it failed at calculating ACB correctly and it over-agreed on whether deductions were applicable or not.
Croquette@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 27d
My experience in using the government phone services through the years have always been positive, especially compared to non governmental services.
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 28d
Surely this is just as likely to go against you as it is in your favour?
JelleWho@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 28d
Yhea I prefer my tax return to be error-free
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 9 pts · 28d
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 28d
Yeah but taxes are so hard tho!
JelleWho@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 28d
Let me correct that for you:
"USA taxes are hard"
Agent641@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 28d
All taxes are hard when you're as dumb as me
13igTyme@piefed.social · 0 pts · 28d
USA taxes aren't hard, were just the only western country that the government doesn't just do it and send confirmation mail.
USA does how however have a serious financially uneducated population because this stuff isn't taught in schools.
trashcroissant@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 28d
In Canada the government does not do it. Turbotax wormed its way into our government too. Also not taught taxes in schools.... (At least not in mine)
Though I did have a socials studies teacher that tried to teach us about the stock market, but I'm pretty sure that was just a side project for him and not part of our criteria.
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 28d
It is starting to change