I have discovered a pattern that after around 3 hours of deep mental work I am exhausted and I can't do anything any more that day.
What are your strategies to get more work done, or just to not feel miserable for the rest of the day?
I have discovered a pattern that after around 3 hours of deep mental work I am exhausted and I can't do anything any more that day.
What are your strategies to get more work done, or just to not feel miserable for the rest of the day?
45 Comments
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 49d
Doing anything physical ( a walk, exercise, bike ride, whatever) while doing nothing mental (as in, no chores like cleaning, something physical and mostly mindless) usually helps me.
YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 49d
Yup I like to go on a walk with my dogs and listen to music. It always helps me reset.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d
I like to mow the yard and day-dream. I can very creative when I'm just walking back and forth
kindnesskills@literature.cafe · 31 pts · 49d
That's the most normal thing in the world.
We aren't machines - most people can only focus deeply for at most a couple of hours at a time, and it takes a lot of energy to focuslike that. Just like you can't run a whole marathon at sprinting-after-the-bus speeds, you won't be able to work a whole day at the level of your peak performing hour. Best thing to do is plan your work accordingly.
The number one thing for me is taking breaks BEFORE I think I need it. Way more frequent breaks than you think.
Short breaks so you don't lose your flow, but still take time to get some blood flow through your body up to your brain: Set an alarm every half hour or so for a mini break 30-60 sec (closing your eyes, stretching, breathing, standing and staring out a window). Every hour move away from the desk 2-5 min (refill your water and grab a fruit, or empty the dishwasher or quick walk up and down the stairs or around the building for some fresh air). Halfway between morning and lunch, and halfway between lunch and night take a longer break 15 or so minutes (with a cup of tea or coffee and reading or chatting with colleagues or a friend).
Absolutely no (constructive) work talk during breaks with colleagues. Better to sit in silence than ruin your break time.
Brisk walk (get the heart rate up) or quick nap during lunch.
Save some menial tasks for when you run out of steam, usually after lunch and often towards end of day. Replying to a few emails or checking off some small tasks - something simple just to get the ball rolling after lunch or to wind down the work day.
Make sure you eat and drink properly.
Avoid negative self-talk, because you're doing really well with your human brain and biological need for rest and recuperating.
And ask for help even when you don't need it, because sometimes just explaining your work means you find a solution that would have taken a lot longer to find in silence, and sometimes it just makes someone else feel good to be of assistance.
maltasoron@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 49d
I always drink a lot of water or coffee during the workday, so I have to get up regularly to go to the bathroom and drink more water. Works great.
kindnesskills@literature.cafe · 3 pts · 48d
That's great! I either forget to pee or get extremely frustrated by the constant trips, no middle ground.
Ludrol@szmer.info · 5 pts · 48d
Thanks for the comprehensive answer. I will need to process that I can't do all the things I wish I would be doing; and learn how to take a break. Some time ago I installed the pomodoro timer but it has been sitting misused on my desktop tray. I think it should finally get some use.
kindnesskills@literature.cafe · 4 pts · 48d
Yeah, I'm in a lifelong battle with my ego to accept I'm human and limited in many ways. Good luck!
alternategait@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 48d
kindnesskills@literature.cafe · 3 pts · 48d
Tried and true (by at least two people)!
Paradachshund@lemmy.today · 20 pts · 49d
I'm gonna give you the answer no motivated person wants to hear. You should listen to your body and take a rest. You'll be able to get more done with time, but exhausting yourself to get there won't help in the long run (ask me how I know 🫠)
NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 48d
How do you know?
Paradachshund@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 48d
Agent641@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 48d
Literally just now coming out of a 6 month burnout pit.
Paradachshund@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 48d
Felt dude, it sucks. Takes way longer to recover from than I'd like, too.
Azzu@leminal.space · 13 pts · 48d
What I do is work less than 3 hours per day. If on a job, the rest of the time I just act as if I'm working.
sunsofold@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 47d
Arguably, if you are burnt out after 3 hours but force yourself to keep trying, you are still only pretending to be working, and possibly making more work for yourself later by making mistakes.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 49d
I’m honestly only good for a few hours a day. I do my thinking, usually come up with something good, then basically fuck off because unless I’m feeling very inspired that’s as much as I’m going to produce.
Now when I’m inspired by something I’ll go like 18 hours straight, but it’s been a long long time since work inspired me like that.
So in that down time I walk to the coffee shop, take a nap, browse the internet, whatever.
Like, yesterday morning I made some code that needs to run daily 150,000x cheaper. Literally saved us a few grand a month. I expected like a 10x improvement. But I could only do that after not thinking about it for the weekend.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 48d
Take a walk. Even if it's just on a treadmill. Even if it's just up and down the stairs a few times. There are empirical studies on this; the physical act of walking energizes your brain. Doesn't have to be outside, doesn't have to be going anywhere. Just walk. Five to ten minutes, put a podcast on or something. Do that every hour or two.
sunsofold@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 47d
JustDorky@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 48d
Prolonged mental exhaustion causes a buildup of glutamate in areas like the lateral prefrontal cortex. Sustained overstimulation can lead to excitotoxicity, where excess glutamate damages neurons.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 48d
I do not understand the words, but I do fear them.
robsteranium@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 48d
That sounds about right to me! Trying to go full steam ahead for 8 hours a day isn't sustainable or even desirable.
I found Cal Newport's book Slow Productivity really helped me get some perspective on work. It has three main lessons: Do Fewer Things, Work at a Natural Pace and Obsess over Quality.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 7 pts · 49d
Im like this. Getting worse as I get older. I used to do a shitton and it was more like 5 or 6 hours but that has come down. No advice except to feel miserable.
AskewLord@piefed.social · 7 pts · 49d
stop trying to do everything at once.
spread shit out more.
if you run a marathon you're not doing anything strenuous for like a week... you are demanding way too much of yourself too fast and too frequently. Stop it.
nitroemdash@lemmy.wtf · 6 pts · 47d
Have you tried taking breaks in these 3 hours?
jet@hackertalks.com · 6 pts · 47d
Lots of people self-report improved mental clarity, focus, and cognition on "clean" diets. Food can have a big impact on brain health and mood.
If your diet isn't great, now might be a good time to clean it up: cut out processed foods, sugars. Go whole food only if you can
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 49d
Bro I have to record 9 hours of work a day and its fucking hard. Worst part of my job.
But I wfh and the job is easy so I don't complain but man I hate recording my time. Always I have a stopwatch running all day every day.
I could be in the mines, so I don't complain.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 6 pts · 48d
Don't work three hours straight.
Try doing two hours and then give yourself a break.
It's much easier to carry five 20 pound loads than to try and carry one 100 pound load.
Wrongdoer2@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 49d
Meditation could probably help. This and doing sports regularly.
zxqwas@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 48d
Did you get enough sleep the nights before? Have you eaten well and had enough to drink? Do you do modest exercise?
Don't think anyone can do a full 8 hour workday of only deep mental work, about 4 hours is more reasonable. Fill the day with some less challenging work.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 48d
No, no, and no! Geez how many times to I have to say it?!
MrOtingocni@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 48d
Escape the hell that is forcing you to labor.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 48d
Destroy capitalism
Have a little nap, as a treat
Ludrol@szmer.info · 4 pts · 48d
My passion and desire is forcing me to work. Time to become a monk i guess
drmoose@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 48d
Are you in the same physical position when you're doing deep mental work? Do you keep this position when doing other things?
Toes@ani.social · 3 pts · 48d
If you're able to afford it and it doesn't jeopardize your employment. Taking a huge amount of time off can reset the mental burnout.
If you wait too long to take a decent vacation the burnout can take years to recover from once you finally break.
Alternatively an therapist might be able to work out a solution tailored for your situation.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 48d
Sleeping and eating well? What do you do for exercise? CoQ10 and done me wonders in a similar situation, but additionally gave a massive boost for physical fatigue too
snoons@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 48d
You should see a dietitian, perhaps you're not eating well enough.
Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 48d
Get yourself so focused on work that you get 12h of shit done in one setting. Then do nothing for the rest of the day
At least that's what I do. Then the next day I will only work a few hours and pretend to work a few more
Ludrol@szmer.info · 2 pts · 48d
After the 4th hour I get a headache so bad that I am unable to function.
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 48d
See a doctor
radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 48d
Drink more water.
11111one11111@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 48d
Crack cocaine
Wrongdoer2@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 49d
kandoh@reddthat.com · -1 pts · 47d
One or two capsules of kratom.