Same people who think that a teenager should be subject to genital inspection before playing volleyball also think that a major government official should be given absolute protection from any inquiry.
i was talkin about the single bomb dropped in iran that killed an entire school full of children because the pedophile president didnt want us looking at his dirty deeds.
Also celebrities, to a lesser extent. They are also public figures that chose to be public figures. I will agree the paparazzi should be stalking politicians the way they do celebrities, and vice versa.
The difference to me is celebrities are making art that you are free to ignore at will with virtually zero real impact on your life. Politicians CANNOT be ignored because the things they do most certainly WILL impact our lives regardless of whether you ignore them. Therefore it is imperative that we keep tabs on them.
No. Celebrities don't always ask to become famous. And people should be able to make art without being public figures.
Politicians are public figures by definition. They constantly campaign to remain in public consciousness. And they're supposed to represent us. They have up their right to privacy as soon as they ran for office.
Paparazzi are scum, though. There's a reason we don't call them journalists.
Rick Moranis, Bo Burnham, and multiple other short lived celebrities put lie to your first point. They may not have intended to blow up to celebrity status, but once they are there they decide if they want to keep it or not. Most of them decide that the intrusion into their lives is worth the money. Artists are pretty much always allowed to give up their fame, at the cost of ridiculous sums of money that many celebrities don't need.
Paparazzi are the inevitable consequence of monetizing fame. The individuals are just trying to make a buck, legally inside the system that refuses to pay anyone except for the celebrities and public figures, the system is scum.
You're missing the point. Actors and musicians don't want to represent the public. But that's literally the only thing politicians are supposed to do. Their personal lives have a huge influence on society.
People who want to delve into the lives of celebrities are parasocial weirdos. People who delve into the lives of politicians are journalists.
Even Ryan Reynolds came out at one point and said something along the lines of "well if you don't want to be a target for the tabloids...stop going to the places you know they are at, works pretty good for me"
I don't understand what you've written for the first line - how does, for instance, Bo Burnham put "lie" to the idea that celebrities don't ask for it?
Given the mercurial nature of the public, I'd almost argue that "celebrities" (or possibly influencers) have no actual control over their popularity, and unlike politicians aren't necessarily looking to control what you do in your life... So are probably a bit different.
Where's Bo Burnham? He's not in any spotlight. Him, Rick Moranis and probably a whole list of people I can't remember right now show that they can walk out of the spotlight and be normal people whenever they want to. Most of them like the money more than the inconvenience.
I’d argue that it’s more than just fame or celebrity that drives the paparazzi and other celebrity gossip media. I think fame modified by age plus the possibility of a scandalous situation is what drives it.
The paparazzi targets actors because the range of “scandals” they can become entangled in. There’s not much scandal to document and sell about an older comedic actor who chose to retire from acting to raise a family or a standup comic who chooses a private life for personal reasons.
Bo voluntarily left the spotlight and hasn't put out anything in years. He's pretty much done the same thing Moranis did. He seems to have decided money and fame weren't worth it.
I mean, other than doing Inside (which was fantastic), acting in films like promising young woman, and producing a bunch of stuff - tours were something he stopped doing for mental health reasons, iirc...
That said, I don't know when you're comparing this to.
I'm comparing what he did before and including Inside, to what he's done after. I had no clue he's gone behind the scenes and into production, but that makes sense since he was apparently having panic attacks on stage.
After Inside, he just kinda went "poof," as far as I could tell.
That would be funny as fuck, especially if the politicians have to go it alone the way the paparazzi do, but no, the inverse of that specific proposal, and paparazzi should stalk celebrities the way they currently stalk politicians, aka, barely.
He's fine, he's been chasing Spanish children through Nazi-occupied underground dining halls all week. Eyesight's not the best, but otherwise doing fine.
Genuinely worried that they'll dress up some 40 year old to look like him, and say that Elon's med-bed rejuvinated his body. Christians will declare it the second coming of Trump and make him King of all Christiandom. The rest of all of our lives will be a world war led by religious nuts to bring the word of DJT to world.
Often when there are no laws about something it's because most of the key laws of the US were set down 250 years ago when modern communication tech didn't exist, people travelled by horseback, etc.
But, you would think that a procedure to determine if a key member of the government were alive or not would have been even more important 250 years ago. Back when legislators had to travel by horse across rural areas that were unlit at night, it must have been relatively normal for someone to just disappear. Maybe they'd get waylaid by bandits. Maybe attacked by wildlife. Maybe kicked in the head by their horse. Maybe caught in a flash flood.
OTOH, maybe back then "just wait until the next election, even if it's 6 years away" would have been considered reasonable.
dont you mean 1000AD- current? when he last got his fill of souls into his lich form. remember he married elaine chao for accessed to CCP back funds too, and vice versa with elaine chao to grift from the gop/american relationship, his marriage was all business, since he also doesnt have children.
Nobody respects the fucking dead. Age affords many opportunities to earn respect. Missing them so constantly for so long is just evidence of a trend, and something driving it.
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DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 160 pts · 22d
Same people who think that a teenager should be subject to genital inspection before playing volleyball also think that a major government official should be given absolute protection from any inquiry.
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com · 42 pts · 22d
these people let the president kill 150 children (for starters) with zero recourse.
they dont give 2 shits about any requests for anything that isnt legally mandated and pushed through several court decisions.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 5 pts · 22d
That's a weird way to spell rape.
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com · 7 pts · 22d
i was talkin about the single bomb dropped in iran that killed an entire school full of children because the pedophile president didnt want us looking at his dirty deeds.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 22d
That was two bombs, actually. They did a double-tap.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 22d
Yeah, I got that!
theparadox@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 22d
Literally rules for thee but not for me.
Xanthobilly@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 22d
They’re full of hate and never act in good faith. It’s that simple.
cyclonedusk@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 114 pts · 22d
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK:
PUBLIC LEGISLATORS AND EXECUTIVES DO NOT DESERVE PRIVACY!
crandlecan@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 22d
WHAT?
merc@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 22d
LET US WATCH THEM POOP!
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 22d
Kinda feels like you have your own agenda here 😂
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22d
Also celebrities, to a lesser extent. They are also public figures that chose to be public figures. I will agree the paparazzi should be stalking politicians the way they do celebrities, and vice versa.
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today · 50 pts · 22d
The difference to me is celebrities are making art that you are free to ignore at will with virtually zero real impact on your life. Politicians CANNOT be ignored because the things they do most certainly WILL impact our lives regardless of whether you ignore them. Therefore it is imperative that we keep tabs on them.
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 22d
No. Celebrities don't always ask to become famous. And people should be able to make art without being public figures.
Politicians are public figures by definition. They constantly campaign to remain in public consciousness. And they're supposed to represent us. They have up their right to privacy as soon as they ran for office.
Paparazzi are scum, though. There's a reason we don't call them journalists.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 22d
Rick Moranis, Bo Burnham, and multiple other short lived celebrities put lie to your first point. They may not have intended to blow up to celebrity status, but once they are there they decide if they want to keep it or not. Most of them decide that the intrusion into their lives is worth the money. Artists are pretty much always allowed to give up their fame, at the cost of ridiculous sums of money that many celebrities don't need.
Paparazzi are the inevitable consequence of monetizing fame. The individuals are just trying to make a buck, legally inside the system that refuses to pay anyone except for the celebrities and public figures, the system is scum.
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 22d
You're missing the point. Actors and musicians don't want to represent the public. But that's literally the only thing politicians are supposed to do. Their personal lives have a huge influence on society.
People who want to delve into the lives of celebrities are parasocial weirdos. People who delve into the lives of politicians are journalists.
Jarix@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22d
Even Ryan Reynolds came out at one point and said something along the lines of "well if you don't want to be a target for the tabloids...stop going to the places you know they are at, works pretty good for me"
jeeva@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22d
I don't understand what you've written for the first line - how does, for instance, Bo Burnham put "lie" to the idea that celebrities don't ask for it?
Given the mercurial nature of the public, I'd almost argue that "celebrities" (or possibly influencers) have no actual control over their popularity, and unlike politicians aren't necessarily looking to control what you do in your life... So are probably a bit different.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 22d
Where's Bo Burnham? He's not in any spotlight. Him, Rick Moranis and probably a whole list of people I can't remember right now show that they can walk out of the spotlight and be normal people whenever they want to. Most of them like the money more than the inconvenience.
derfunkatron@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22d
I’d argue that it’s more than just fame or celebrity that drives the paparazzi and other celebrity gossip media. I think fame modified by age plus the possibility of a scandalous situation is what drives it.
The paparazzi targets actors because the range of “scandals” they can become entangled in. There’s not much scandal to document and sell about an older comedic actor who chose to retire from acting to raise a family or a standup comic who chooses a private life for personal reasons.
decolo@piefed.social · 3 pts · 22d
Is bo not famous anymore?? I don't follow him, genuine question
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22d
Bo voluntarily left the spotlight and hasn't put out anything in years. He's pretty much done the same thing Moranis did. He seems to have decided money and fame weren't worth it.
jeeva@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22d
I mean, other than doing Inside (which was fantastic), acting in films like promising young woman, and producing a bunch of stuff - tours were something he stopped doing for mental health reasons, iirc...
That said, I don't know when you're comparing this to.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22d
I'm comparing what he did before and including Inside, to what he's done after. I had no clue he's gone behind the scenes and into production, but that makes sense since he was apparently having panic attacks on stage.
After Inside, he just kinda went "poof," as far as I could tell.
ReasonablePea@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 22d
Politicians should be stalking paparazzi?
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 22d
That would be funny as fuck, especially if the politicians have to go it alone the way the paparazzi do, but no, the inverse of that specific proposal, and paparazzi should stalk celebrities the way they currently stalk politicians, aka, barely.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 55 pts · 22d
Someone this old should absolutely NOT take any decision for a country
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 22d
Our glorious leader is merely 4 years his junior and still in amazing health and perception!
horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 22d
He should say "thank you" to the great doctors from the Islamic Republic of Japan.
Napster153@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 22d
The rules do not apply unless forced upon them. They have exploited the American Freedom mindset to the fullest
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 43 pts · 22d
They didn't give any privacy to Hunter Biden, who was literally just a citizen.
shittydwarf@piefed.ca · 36 pts · 22d
Narrator: there was no proof of life available
green_goglin@thelemmy.club · 33 pts · 22d
LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml · 36 pts · 22d
Ding dong the Mitch is dead
58008@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 22d
He's fine, he's been chasing Spanish children through Nazi-occupied underground dining halls all week. Eyesight's not the best, but otherwise doing fine.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 22d
specifically sucking the life force and soul of youths.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 29 pts · 22d
On August 3rd we'll find out that he suddenly died on August 3rd.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 22d
Two neo-Nazi supporting asswipes croaked. That is good news and there are plenty more out there.
Lucky_777@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 22d
They say it comes in 3s. Maybe we'll hit the orange jackpot teir soon
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 22d
People are joking about it with McConnell but if Trump dies I genuinely think they will just "weekend at Bernie's" him through the next two years.
jispal01@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 22d
Genuinely worried that they'll dress up some 40 year old to look like him, and say that Elon's med-bed rejuvinated his body. Christians will declare it the second coming of Trump and make him King of all Christiandom. The rest of all of our lives will be a world war led by religious nuts to bring the word of DJT to world.
I mean our SecDef has a crusader cross tatoo.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 22d
They only need to get him to Jan 20 2027, else Vance would be term limited
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22d
LOL! +1
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 22d
lindsey gram was announced dead actually
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 22d
Good riddance to bad closeted bigots
merc@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 22d
Graham
PwnTra1n@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 22d
I’m sure proving life for Mitch was hard enough before this.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 22d
Who wants to bet that he put a clause in his updated will that his last wishes were to obstruct the appointment of his successor?
grinning_serpent@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 22d
It's weird that we don't really have any laws to handle this sort of thing.
How long do you think a Democrat would be allowed to play corpse before the GOP would start screaming about replacing them?
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 22d
The last decade have shown me how much of our government is based on handshakes
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 22d
'Congressional handshake' is the name for the act of you and a friend both rape the same child. I'm told it's quite a bonding experience.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 22d
Often when there are no laws about something it's because most of the key laws of the US were set down 250 years ago when modern communication tech didn't exist, people travelled by horseback, etc.
But, you would think that a procedure to determine if a key member of the government were alive or not would have been even more important 250 years ago. Back when legislators had to travel by horse across rural areas that were unlit at night, it must have been relatively normal for someone to just disappear. Maybe they'd get waylaid by bandits. Maybe attacked by wildlife. Maybe kicked in the head by their horse. Maybe caught in a flash flood.
OTOH, maybe back then "just wait until the next election, even if it's 6 years away" would have been considered reasonable.
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 18 pts · 22d
It's not that everyone wants proof of life, everyone wants to know if he's finally dead.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 22d
Which is what a "proof of life" would determine.
LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 22d
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 22d
Only if the rumors are false.
Leviathan@fedinsfw.app · 10 pts · 22d
Release proof of death so we can celebrate.
crandlecan@mander.xyz · 10 pts · 22d
FFS just rot away!!!
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 22d
dont you mean 1000AD- current? when he last got his fill of souls into his lich form. remember he married elaine chao for accessed to CCP back funds too, and vice versa with elaine chao to grift from the gop/american relationship, his marriage was all business, since he also doesnt have children.
dan69@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 22d
And release the Epstein files
ForceTen@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 22d
Well he was born in 1942 but at a certain age I guess it’s really negligible lol
green_goglin@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 22d
Indeed
Etterra@discuss.online · 4 pts · 22d
Did he actually kick it? Fucking finally. Good riddance you air wasting reptile.
Inucune@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 22d
Aw, he dead. CPR cracked his ribs like dry spaghetti. They just don't want the special election.
So much for respecting elders or the dead. Glory to the cause or some bullshit.
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 22d
Nobody respects the fucking dead. Age affords many opportunities to earn respect. Missing them so constantly for so long is just evidence of a trend, and something driving it.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 22d
Won't the swamp vomit up something even worse from the miasma?
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22d
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22d
ass deserves not a single blessed epitaph