Star Trek seems to forget sometimes that other continents exist

Looking at TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, DSC, PIC, SNW and LD:

  • North America - 16
    • Kirk, James Tiberius (Iowa, USA)
    • McCoy, Leonard (Georgia, USA)
    • Sulu, Hikaru (California, USA)
    • Chapel, Christine (Ohio, USA)
    • Pike, Christopher (California, USA)
    • Kirk, George Samuel (Iowa, USA)
    • Riker, William Thomas (Alaska, USA)
    • Sisko, Benjamin (Louisiana, USA)
    • Janeway, Kathryn (Indiana, USA)
    • Paris, Tom (California, USA)
    • Kim, Harry (South Carolina, USA)
    • Archer, Jonathan (California, USA)
    • Tucker, Charles III (Florida, USA)
    • Forrest, Maxwell (USA)
    • Culber, Hugh (Puerto Rico, USA)
    • Shaw, Liam (Illinois, USA)
    • Boimler, Bradward (California, USA)
  • South America - 2
    • Rios, Cristóbal (Chile)
    • Ortegas, Erica (Colombia)
  • Europe - 9
    • Scott, Montgomery (Scotland, UK)
    • Chekov, Pavel (Russia)
    • April, Robert (England, UK)
    • Picard, Jean-Luc (France)
    • O'Brien, Miles (Ireland)
    • Pulaski, Katherine (Poland)
    • Reed, Malcolm (England, UK)
    • Detmer, Keyla (Germany)
    • Crusher, Jack (England, UK)
  • Africa - 4
    • Uhura, Nyota (Kenya)
    • M'Benga, Joseph (Kenya)
    • La Forge, Geordi (Somalia)
    • Owosekun, Joann (Nigeria)
  • Asia - 3
    • O'Brien (née Ishikara), Keiko (Japan)
    • Sato Hoshi (Japan)
    • Georgiou, Philippa (Malaysia)
  • Oceania - 0
  • Human Colony - 10
    • Crusher (née Howard), Beverly (The Moon)
    • Yar, Tasha (Turkana IV)
    • Data (Omicron Theta)
    • Chakotay (Trebus)
    • Torres, B'Elanna (Kessik IV)
    • Asha, Soji (Coppelius)
    • Asha, Dahj (Coppelius)
    • Noonien-Singh, La'An (Alpha I)
    • Ransom, Jack (The Moon)
    • Billups, Andarithio (Hysperia)
  • Alien World - 37
    • Spock (Vulcan)
    • Chin-Riley, Una (Illyria)
    • Arex (Edos)
    • Worf (Khitomer)
    • Troi, Deanna (Betazed)
    • Guinan (El-Auria)
    • Ro Laren (Bajor)
    • Kira Nerys (Bajor)
    • Odo (Omarian Nebula)
    • Dax, Jadzia (Trill)
    • Dax, Ezri (Trill)
    • Quark (Ferenginar)
    • Rom (Ferenginar)
    • Garak, Elim (Cardassia Prime)
    • Leeta (Bajor)
    • Tuvok (Vulcan)
    • Neelix (Rinax)
    • Kes (Ocampa)
    • T'Pol (Vulcan)
    • Phlox (Denobula)
    • Soval (Vulcan)
    • Shran, Thy'lek (Andoria)
    • Saru (Kaminar)
    • Voq (Qo'noS)
    • Nhan, D. (Barzan II)
    • Linus (Sauria)
    • Booker, Cleveland V (Kwejian)
    • Rayner (Kellerun)
    • Elnor (Romulus)
    • Laris (Romulus)
    • Hemmer (Andoria)
    • Tendi, D'Vana (Orion)
    • T'Lyn (Vulcan)
    • Shaxs (Bajor)
    • Kayshon (Sigma Tama IV)
    • Migleemo, Gabers (Klowahka)
    • Barnes (Trill)
  • Space Boomer - 8
    • Rand, Janice (Earth, Various ships and stations)
    • Crusher, Wesley (Earth, USS Enterprise)
    • Sisko, Jake (USS Saratoga, Utopia Planitia, DS9)
    • Nog (Ferenginar, DS9)
    • Doctor, The (USS Voyager)
    • Seven of Nine (Tendara Colony, Borg Collective, USS Voyager)
    • Mayweather, Travis (ECS Horizon)
    • Mariner, Beckett (Starbase 25)
  • Unknown - 24
    • M'Ress (Unknown Caitian Homeworld)
    • Barclay, Reginald (Unknown)
    • Bashir, Julian (Earth, Unknown Continent)
    • Yates-Sisko, Kasidy (Unknown)
    • Burnham, Michael (Earth, Unknown Continent)
    • Lorca, Gabriel (Unknown)
    • Cornwell, Katrina (Unknown)
    • Tilly, Sylvia (Earth, Unknown Continent)
    • Stamets, Paul (Unknown)
    • Airiam (Unknown)
    • Bryce, Ronald (Unknown)
    • Rhys, Gen (Unknown)
    • Landry, Ellen (Unknown)
    • Pollard, Tracy (Unknown)
    • Reno, Jett (Unknown)
    • Tal, Adira (Earth, Unknown Continent)
    • Musiker, Raffaela (Earth, Unknown Continent)
    • Jurati, Agnes (Unknown)
    • La Forge, Sidney (Unknown)
    • Pelia (Unknown Lanthanite Homeworld)
    • Rutherford, Samanthan (Unknown)
    • Freeman, Carol (Unknown)
    • T'Ana (Unknown Caitian Homeworld)
    • Sh'reyan, Jennifer (Unknown)
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45 Comments

Carcel@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 28d (1 reply)

Sulu was from San Francisco, not Japan. In Star Trek IV when they're approaching San Francisco in the bird of prey he says he was born there.

Tango@piefed.ca · 14 pts · 28d

Well that's embarrassing! OK, updated. Thanks.

ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 29d (1 reply)

Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 29d

You know some people say Modesto is like the moon of uh, San Francisco

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe · 22 pts · 28d (1 reply)

ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 28d

s@piefed.world · 19 pts · 29d (4 replies)

Oceania and South America were lost in WWIII

hypeerror@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 29d (1 reply)

My family was from Buenos Aires and I say Kill 'em all!

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 27d

Would you like to know more?

Tango@piefed.ca · 11 pts · 29d

It is a testament to... something, I guess... that I honestly can't tell if you're joking.

GraniteM@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 28d

Same reason why Jean-Luc Picard doesn't have a French accent.

Seimhe@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 29d (9 replies)

When I was a kid watching TOS reruns, it felt like the whole world was represented on the bridge of the Enterprise. As I got older and newer series came out, it felt more like Americans In Space, so I tuned out of everything post DS9.

Would love to watch a truly global, optimistic sci-fi series or movie.

CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 28d (6 replies)

I mean, Star Trek was always targeted at a US audience, even and especially TOS.

I don't know many other places where viewers could relate much to a reading of the Constitution of the United States.

I've really come to despise the US's dominance to quasi-monopoly on movie and TV entertainment in western cultures. I want to see other perspectives, different cultural influences.

isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 28d

And it goes well beyond specific references. The entire setting of Star Trek is really an outgrowth/projection of American post-WW2 optimism. The original Star Trek was created by the generation of people that fought WW2 and built the United Nations. Roddenberry himself was a pilot during WW2 in what would become the US Air Force.

Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 28d (1 reply)

I’ve really come to despise the US’s dominance to quasi-monopoly on movie and TV entertainment in western cultures.

Aside from Bollywood I don't know if any other countries out as much money into movies and shows as the US does. You'll have the occasional sleeper hits that'll come out but there isn't as big of a market here for international medi.

CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 28d

We do have the Filmförderung in Germany giving out government subsidies for movie productions, but the execution and distribution is ass. For example, almost every Hollywood movie with some scenes shot in Germany is partially financed by this programme just to get them to shoot here.

Seimhe@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 28d (2 replies)

100%. I'm tired of the anglosphere in general. I'd rather see something else, even if it's not as well funded.

Tango@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 28d (1 reply)

Lupin (on Netflix, starring Omar Sy) is a pretty good French-language series.

There's also, obviously, the entire medium of anime, which is largely Japanese (with some Korean).

Seimhe@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 28d

Thanks, will check out Lupin!

minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 29d (1 reply)

Orville is as close as we get to hopefully, optimistic or aspirational SciFi. Everything is dark, horror stories of the future.

Seimhe@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 29d

Yeah true, but it’s still all-American. I only saw season one, though.

_NetNomad@fedia.io · 9 pts · 28d (1 reply)

they tried to get people from Oceana but between Farscape and the Star Wars prequels there weren't any actors left. the latter had 6.2 million characters portrayed by someone from New Zealand

quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 28d

Don't forget the other dude that also took all the horses.

Deebster@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 28d (1 reply)

That's one of the reasons why I hated the Enterprise theme - it clearly said this is a show by Americans for Americans. The rest of us are welcome to watch, but we don't matter.

Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 28d

Any reason to hate on that stupid song i'll gladly take.

Tango@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 29d (1 reply)

(I might finish the list later)

EDIT: Finished (live action, anyway). It really stands out, now, how little Discovery cared about the backstories for its command crew outside of one or two writer's faves.

EDIT 2: Damn it, I forgot the Picard series. (I might finish the list later)

EDIT 3: TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, DSC, PIC, SNW and LD all done. Have had to go to Memory Beta for some of these. I understand that there are also shows called Prodigy and Starfleet Academy but I've never watched them.

hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 27d

Discovery was a very different format from the earlier series. If you're watching 90s Trek, you've got 20 some odd episodes per season and most of them are designed to be watched one at a time. That's a lot of time to fill in backstory details and meet different characters. Compare that to much shorter seasons with a more contemporary focus on a central plot and you just don't really have the run time to spare.

RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 29d (2 replies)

The implication is that the USA eventually takes over South America, right?

Tango@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 29d (1 reply)

Or maybe they got got by the Xindi

PS: after going through all the live-action shows, I finally found one in SNW: Erica Ortegas is from Colombia. Now the only continents with no main-character representation are Oceania and Antarctica, and Antarctica doesn't really count.

Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org · 7 pts · 28d

Antarctica doesn't really count.

There is nothing in the rules stating that a Pinguin can't be Captain of a Starfleet vessel!

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 29d (2 replies)

I always found it slightly weird that the president of Starfleet, stationed in San Francisco, wasn't a human at all.

tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 28d

Starfleet, or the Federation?

The headquarters of the United Federation of Planets is on earth because it was founded there, but the presidency is open to candidates from any member world.

Which makes sense given the whole point of the federation is unity.

The head of Starfleet is whoever the top Admiral is at the time.

Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d

The heads of Starfleet are in San Francisco because thats the HQ.

The president of the United Federation of Planets in the capital in Paris. But the UFP president not always being human does show that just because the capital is on Earth it doesn't automatically mean the president has to be a human.

hansolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 28d (4 replies)

Somalia? La Forge don't look Somali, and certainly ain't got no Somali name.

Tango@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 28d (3 replies)

I dunno where his parents were from, but he was born in Mogadishu.

hansolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 28d (2 replies)

Ah, so let's say French diplomats' kid.

Tango@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 27d (1 reply)

Maybe? I honestly have no idea how intercontinental politics work in Star Trek but having diplomats between Earth nations by the time of the Federation seems as redundant as having diplomats between US states now.

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 27d

I think we might be a slightly better place if we had state diplomats. Imagine if someone like Tom Walz occasionally went on a hunting/fishing trip with any of the red state governors. It may go like when Mamdani visited the white house. It's hard to hate like these people do yelling into the ether when the person is right there.

TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 5 pts · 29d (1 reply)

Chakotay is from Central America or at least his ancestors

Tango@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 29d

Everybody's from everywhere if you count ancestors

SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 28d (2 replies)

Is this just where they were born, or else Jake Sisko and even Wesley Crusher should count as Boomers

Tango@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 28d (1 reply)

Jake's tricky because he was born on Earth, but if he moved around with Benjamin then he lived in space too, on various ships and DS9, but also Mars (Utopia Planitia shipyards) and even Romulus (Sisko had an embassy posting for a while). If I list Jake and Wesley as Boomers I might have to put Nog down for that too. Also, I'm not sure WHAT Wesley's deal was; if he had been moved around with Beverly and/or Jack Sr, then Picard would already have met him before TNG.

rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d

Picard did meet Wesley before TNG. Wesley was there when Picard came to break the news to Beverly Crusher about Jack Crusher's death.

SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 28d (1 reply)

Beta canon has Detmer being from Germany

Tango@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 28d

Interesting! I'll take it