I could barely get my 78 year old mother in law to use Linux for web email after theming it like Windows.
How the heck am I going to get her to understand getting her roku to be VPN into my house for jellyfin when we're 1000+ miles away and trying to troubleshoot over her home phone?
(She doesn't even have a cell phone - for pictures she digs out her 20 year old digital camera, snaps a few pics, uploads them to her laptop, attaches them to an email, and only then do I get to see what she's seeing.)
Assuming you can remote into her laptop. Setup the vpn on it, set up a portforward rule to point back to your jellyfin over the vpn, set the roku to connect to the laptop.
Although technically possible - I can't imagine trying to troubleshoot that remotely. Or explaining that she can't watch Escape to the Country because her laptop battery died.
I still use Plex, I have a lifetime pass and everything "just works" for my end users. Including Plexamp. Someday I expect to switch but it'll have to be when the end-user experience is just as easy and accessible.
Edit: Reading the article, even its author admits to sticking with Plex for now for similar reasons
A private company who's entire use case is facilitating streaming pirated media. The only time Plex blocks or exposes it's customers is the time the company completely implodes
All they know is what metadata is attached to the file. If you tag your home movies with metadata for the new Odyssey movie, you haven't broken any laws.
It literally plays through Plex's proxies and redirect network to get from A to B. Pretending they don't know is willfully ignorant. They need only take a peek, which they very well can.
Only reason I’m using Plex instead of Jellyfin is subtitle management. With Plex I get to just choose from the list instead of setting up the whole god damned ARR-stack.
You don't need all that in Jellyfin, there's a plugin for searching for subtitles. Although I use Bazaar to automate the process its not strictly necessary.
I don't think it's as complicated as setting up an arr stack (I know it was hyperbole, dw :p). Maybe it's because most of the films I aquire already come with subs, but surely there are plugins that make getting them fairly easy?
OP and Author here and didn't realise this had gotten so many comments here as I'd been busy at work and catching up today but want to thank you all for reading and have seen a few people in other places mentioning Emby but I guess it's really a full split between Plex and Jellyfin with the Emby faithful just chugging along with what they have. I'm still using Plex as I mentioned in the article, mainly for ease of use and PlexAmp. I still have Jellyfin running side by side testing out free IP TV streams online I found on GitHub as Plex seemed to choke and not really set up for doing that kind of thing. Once Jellyfin gets a bit more mature especially for metadata which people I know who use it seem to have a lot of trouble I may be closer to moving over but for now Plex just pips it to the post for my usage at least.
That's the neat part, Jellyfin doesn't come in a box. It's a component you get for free, the cost is a little of your time, the prize is your total control.
And I touch grass regularly, I want to clarify that, because it seems important to you, judging by your other comments.
if you are a geek and like configuring things, jellyfin is your go to system
If you are casual and just want to watch movies without worrying about technical things, Netflix (and other 1000 streaming services) is your solution
If you already paid for Plex Lifetime usage before they increased the price, good for you!
If you paid for it after they increased the price, I am sorry for you, the 20 minutes I needed to set up Jellyfin really isn't worth what they charge for Plex.
If you work in the Plex marketing department, go touch grass... and I am also sorry for you!
At the moment Plex is a weird middle ground that requires some tinkering and payment and don't even gives you a moral high ground, because you still watch pirated movies with it.
35 Comments
mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 26d
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 26d
Plex is a third party that needs to only look to know what you stream. Imagine that subpoena.
"They're all paid users, lmao, we have their billing addresses and names for you, Uncle Sam."
-can be used over a private wireguard home VPN that only you can see.
Teach a man to fish.
plateee@piefed.social · 8 pts · 26d
I could barely get my 78 year old mother in law to use Linux for web email after theming it like Windows.
How the heck am I going to get her to understand getting her roku to be VPN into my house for jellyfin when we're 1000+ miles away and trying to troubleshoot over her home phone?
(She doesn't even have a cell phone - for pictures she digs out her 20 year old digital camera, snaps a few pics, uploads them to her laptop, attaches them to an email, and only then do I get to see what she's seeing.)
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 26d
Assuming you can remote into her laptop. Setup the vpn on it, set up a portforward rule to point back to your jellyfin over the vpn, set the roku to connect to the laptop.
plateee@piefed.social · 1 pts · 26d
Although technically possible - I can't imagine trying to troubleshoot that remotely. Or explaining that she can't watch Escape to the Country because her laptop battery died.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 26d
The alternative is to preconfig a mini pc and ship it to her have her plug it in and forget about it.
Or you could setup a proxy service and allow list her ip address block. Many ways to acheive remote access without much fuss from non techinals.
omgboom@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 25d
Cloudflare zero trust tunnel to your Plex server pointed at some domain.
valar@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 26d
I still use Plex, I have a lifetime pass and everything "just works" for my end users. Including Plexamp. Someday I expect to switch but it'll have to be when the end-user experience is just as easy and accessible.
Edit: Reading the article, even its author admits to sticking with Plex for now for similar reasons
9point6@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 26d
Same yeah, I've even got jellyfin set up in parallel in case Plex ever goes to shit, I still end up going for Plex 99% of the time currently
I completely understand anyone that doesn't want to buy into it today, but the $75 I spent a decade and a half ago has been pretty good value for me
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 26d
A private company that knows you pirate media has your name and billing address and you're calm as a cucumber?
Man.
Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 26d
A private company who's entire use case is facilitating streaming pirated media. The only time Plex blocks or exposes it's customers is the time the company completely implodes
joe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 26d
All they know is what metadata is attached to the file. If you tag your home movies with metadata for the new Odyssey movie, you haven't broken any laws.
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 25d
It literally plays through Plex's proxies and redirect network to get from A to B. Pretending they don't know is willfully ignorant. They need only take a peek, which they very well can.
valar@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 26d
This is fair. I'm not super comfortable with it. I really do hope to migrate away.
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -7 pts · 26d
I couldn't give two shits. Not even one.
Town@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 26d
I thought people abandoned Plex years ago...
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -19 pts · 26d
You need to touch grass 🤣 nobody uses jellyfin compared to Plex, it's not even close
scoutfdt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 26d
Plex uses a centralized auth system? Why would anyone even use this, it seems like a huge privacy issue.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 26d
The time to move is as soon as you learn about Jellyfin. I made the mistake of waiting 2 months.
Lanske@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 26d
Jellyfin works beautifully on my Nas
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 2 pts · 26d
Haven't found the thing yet that I couldn't just do with Kodi and a cobbled together NAS.
But all I use it for is making a local network to watch local and streamed content seamlessly on all the televisions and PCs in my house.
MolochHorridus@piefed.social · 1 pts · 26d
Only reason I’m using Plex instead of Jellyfin is subtitle management. With Plex I get to just choose from the list instead of setting up the whole god damned ARR-stack.
ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 26d
You don't need all that in Jellyfin, there's a plugin for searching for subtitles. Although I use Bazaar to automate the process its not strictly necessary.
HereIAm@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 26d
I don't think it's as complicated as setting up an arr stack (I know it was hyperbole, dw :p). Maybe it's because most of the films I aquire already come with subs, but surely there are plugins that make getting them fairly easy?
reprodev@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 25d
OP and Author here and didn't realise this had gotten so many comments here as I'd been busy at work and catching up today but want to thank you all for reading and have seen a few people in other places mentioning Emby but I guess it's really a full split between Plex and Jellyfin with the Emby faithful just chugging along with what they have. I'm still using Plex as I mentioned in the article, mainly for ease of use and PlexAmp. I still have Jellyfin running side by side testing out free IP TV streams online I found on GitHub as Plex seemed to choke and not really set up for doing that kind of thing. Once Jellyfin gets a bit more mature especially for metadata which people I know who use it seem to have a lot of trouble I may be closer to moving over but for now Plex just pips it to the post for my usage at least.
ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip · -3 pts · 26d
Has anyone used Plex in this decade?
axh@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 26d
Reading all the comments, apparently Makeshift0456 uses it a lot, and touches a lot of grass while doing it.
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social · 3 pts · 26d
Please don't feed the troll.
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -18 pts · 26d
Touch grass, your view is entirely warped.
ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 26d
What an odd thing to say
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -17 pts · 26d
Jellyfin still work like ass with a remote? Come out of the box with a proxy?
Nope, not time.
axh@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 26d
That's the neat part, Jellyfin doesn't come in a box. It's a component you get for free, the cost is a little of your time, the prize is your total control.
And I touch grass regularly, I want to clarify that, because it seems important to you, judging by your other comments.
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -17 pts · 26d
Blah blah blah work
Guys stop nerdsplaining. I know more than you.
axh@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 26d
I see it this way:
if you are a geek and like configuring things, jellyfin is your go to system
If you are casual and just want to watch movies without worrying about technical things, Netflix (and other 1000 streaming services) is your solution
If you already paid for Plex Lifetime usage before they increased the price, good for you!
If you paid for it after they increased the price, I am sorry for you, the 20 minutes I needed to set up Jellyfin really isn't worth what they charge for Plex.
If you work in the Plex marketing department, go touch grass... and I am also sorry for you!
At the moment Plex is a weird middle ground that requires some tinkering and payment and don't even gives you a moral high ground, because you still watch pirated movies with it.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 26d
If your not technical, you're probably going to struggle with getting movies and stuff onto plex.
Frankly getting jellyfin setup was nothing compared to a working Arr stack.