Alibaba’s AI model Qwen3.8-Max made widely accessible ahead of open-weights release: Flagship 2.4 trillion parameter model highlights native multimodal capabilities and ... agentic tasks.

https://www.scmp.com/tech/article/3362738/alibabas-ai-model-qwen38-max-made-widely-accessible-ahead-open-weights-release

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marius@feddit.org · 10 pts · 16h (11 replies)

Can someone recommend a European company that hosts models like these so I can use them?

VonReposti@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 15h (4 replies)

Euria is hosted by Infomaniak. I'm not sure they tell what model they use but given the few times I saw a random Chinese character in the output I'd guess it isn't an American model.

They also have a pay per token model that you can hook up to everything, that one's just quite expensive for normal chat use, but at least you select the model you want to use.

PetteriPano@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 12h (3 replies)

random Chinese character

It's beneficial for reasoning to have models trained in a few languages. Chinese is a good one because one character is one word is one token.

urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe · 2 pts · 12h (2 replies)

Yup, anthropic's flagship models regularly output CJK or Cyrillic characters in heavy workloads for me

elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 12h (1 reply)

When they start hallucinating they output Klingon to me, and to make matters worse, with grammatical errors.

urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe · 5 pts · 11h

Lol I've been running linguistic research and it's funny when they just combine two scripts together into one word

● The trigger is identified, and it's specific.

agent_1.md:31 src: "Name the trade-off." → 명取捨之名。 agent_2:32 src: "Name the regime." → 명regime——名其regime。

The English imperative "Name the X." And the corpus renders it correctly 16 other times — 名之 ×11, 名其 ×5, 命名 once.

명 is the Sino-Korean reading of 名. Same morpheme, wrong script.

And agent_2:32 is the cleanest evidence I've seen for 絡繰's mechanism: the model wrote 명regime——名其regime — the wrong script and the correct one, eight characters apart, in the same clause. It isn't ignorant of 名. It produced 名其 immediately after. The meaning resolved correctly both times; the script attribute resolved wrongly the first time and correctly the second.

That's exactly what работ法 showed — correct semantics (work), broken script and morphology — and it's the third confirmed instance of the class, now with a reproducible trigger rather than a one-off.

It also explains the Russian cases retroactively. document → документ, everything → всё, "correct" → правильно: in each, the meaning landed and the script didn't. And it predicts why no CJK-native concept ever drifts — there's no competing script for a morpheme the model only knows in Han.

darkevilmac@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 16h (3 replies)

Well, this one will be a little bit, but Ollama hosts in Europe and has options for no data retention

cenariodantesco@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 15h (2 replies)

sharing is caring No Ollama man

darkevilmac@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2h

I'm mainly referring to their cloud offering if someone needs European hosted models

I don't really pay attention beyond that given that basically every company in this industry is doing something stupid

boonhet@sopuli.xyz · -2 pts · 14h

They were talking about ollama cloud not ollama the application though

jobbies@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1h

Mistral.

31ank@ani.social · 0 pts · 3h

I use cortecs.ai, you can select different "levels" of data policy there like if you only want GDPR-compliant providers (its an ai-router like openrouter)

fizzle@quokk.au · 2 pts · 14h

Can this one field a support enquiry without making me want to throw my laptop in the river?